Re: Is Israel a Democracy? -- The problem with intellectually insecure whites -- Should Christians Support Israeli Terrorism in Gaza?

2009-01-24 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Sorry you must have typed the wrong URL, this list is not about that, I 
think.

greetings,

Jos.

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> The Jewish State of Israel has no constitution, nor does it name its borders. 
> Israel's hidden constitution is Judaism. Israel's undeclared borders range 
> from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers. Israel's desired jurisdiction extends 
> over the entire Earth.
>
> It could not be more clear that the Jewish State follows a foreign policy 
> which obeys Jewish Law as iterated in the Hebrew Bible, the Talmud, 
> Maimonedes, the Cabalah, and the many commentaries and refinements of same. 
> The Jews are genociding the native inhabitants of Palestine, just as their 
> religion advises, and because their religion teaches them to do so. They 
> treat non-Jews as if non-humans, just as their religion requires them to do. 
> They make perpetual war on every nation on Earth, just as their genocidal 
> Jewish God has instructed.
>
> The Jews of Israel are simply being Jews. Jews are an existential threat to 
> the human race.
>
> Israel contains one third of the Jews of the World. It is not some aberration 
> of the Jewish spirit, but the condensation and concentration of the perverse 
> Jewish mentality, which malady also pervades the remaining two thirds of 
> Jewry, who almost unanimously support the Jewish State, and who certainly do 
> unanimously support the Jewish People and its consistent and constant crimes 
> against the human race. Israel is Jewry and the danger of Israel is the 
> danger of the Jewish People to all others, as the Jews have demonstrated each 
> and every day of their existence.
>
> The Jews, the entire Jewish People of 15 million, will not relent until they 
> have wiped out all non-Jews in "Greater Israel". They will not stop 
> destroying all other cultures, nations, religions, ethnicities, races, 
> competition, etc. until they are either stopped, or succeed in their ancient 
> quest to destroy the human race.
>
> What Israel is doing is not some reaction to outside forces, nor was the 
> formation of Israel a response to the Holocaust. Israel is simply following 
> the plan laid out in the Jews' religious texts. The Jews have openly planned 
> to take Palestine and genocide the native population of Palestine for some 
> 2,500 years before the Holocaust. The Jews have openly complained that 
> "anti-Semitism" is a threat that gives them the right to genocide the 
> Palestinians, not merely since the advent of Nazism, but for some 2,500 years.
>
> The Jewish religion is the Constitution of the Jewish State of Israel, and, 
> to a greater or lesser extent, the constitution of the nature of every Jew 
> alive. The borders of Israel are the range the Jew roams over the entire 
> World. The perverse Jewish mentality is inbred by a Jew's exposure to his 
> parents and to his community. Judaism passes in the spit and slobber of 
> Jewish mother telling her Jewish child that he is a "Jew", as much as Judaism 
> passes in the poison and pain of a Talmudic tractate. The secular Jews did 
> not suddenly come to life after the Enlightenment and the Jewish Reformation 
> a body of vampires that appeared ex nihilo, in vacuo, mostly atheistical and 
> undetached from formally practiced Judaism. Judaism is the Jew. It is a 
> mindset that transcends and supercedes religion. It is a belief set, a way of 
> life, a perception of one's self and one's relation to the World that makes a 
> Jew, a Jew, and a danger to all of humanity.
>
> In fact, the religious shell of Judaism is like the stretched and infected 
> skin of a lycanthropic pustule. When you lance it to cure the infection, the 
> virus only becomes more contagious and spills directly on the non-Jew.
>
> The secular Jew is a deliberate product of the hyper-religious Jew, a monster 
> created out of the hewed corpses of the fanatically religious Jew, a Golem 
> which is conjured up to enter the World of the non-Jew and poison its blood, 
> and boil its brain with a rabid lunacy that bites and spreads, until the 
> infected community feeds on itself and fills the fields with rotting bloating 
> bodies, where once human beings tilled the soil and tended to their families. 
> The religious Jew created the secular Jew as an army of Esthers who seduce 
> with open thighs, broad smiles, and a Siren call that lures in the non-Jew to 
> cast his skull upon the jagged rocks and color the seas with his blood, 
> sickened and blinded by the venereal disease of Judaism in secular form.
>
> Israel is not a secular democracy. It is a religious mockery. It is a rabid 
> bat flying to the ends of the Earth, to end the Earth. No one will be free 

Re: Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks

2009-01-22 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Tanks for your reaktion and for your work.

Jos.
Andreas Willich wrote:
> As far as I know Funambol wanted to develop an Client for their service for 
> the Neo. Except the press release I did not read anything about it.
> 
> But Funambol uses SyncML and that is on my task list. Aside from the addin 
> interface for different PIMs my SyncClient has also an addin interface for 
> communication with different servers like SyncML servers. 
> 
> After the release I want to make a poll, which PIM or Sync Protocoll I should 
> implement next.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Andreas
> 
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
>> Datum: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:01 +0100
>> Von: Jos vd Snepscheut 
>> An: List for Openmoko community discussion 
>> Betreff: Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
> 
>> All, Andreas,
>>
>> Do you know about Funambol (www.forge.funambol.org)?
>> Can they be of help?
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Jos vd Snepscheut
>>
>> Andreas Willich wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only
>>> supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took
>>> the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. 
>>>
>>> But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it
>>> should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way
>>> I have get the data out of it.
>>>
>>> I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Xavier Bestel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Pander a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and
>>>>>>> exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from
>> Sunbird/Lightning?
>>>>>>> Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>> Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>> And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ...
>>>>>   
>>>> Here is more:
>>>>   http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/
>>>>
>>>> Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for
>>>> address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the
>>>> already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap?
>>>>
>>>> The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should
>>>> get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Pander
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>   Xav
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks

2009-01-21 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
All, Andreas,

Do you know about Funambol (www.forge.funambol.org)?
Can they be of help?

Greetings,

Jos vd Snepscheut

Andreas Willich wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only
> supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took
> the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. 
>
> But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it
> should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way
> I have get the data out of it.
>
> I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks.
>
>
> Regards
>   Andreas
>
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote:
>   
>> Xavier Bestel wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Pander a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and
>>>>> exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning?
>>>>>
>>>>> Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/
>>>>>   
>>>> Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet.
>>>>
>>>> http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html
>>>> 
>>> And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ...
>>>   
>> Here is more:
>>   http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/
>>
>> Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for
>> address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the
>> already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap?
>>
>> The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should
>> get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Pander
>>
>> 
>>> Xav
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut

Hello Sargun.

Yes I have a few programs I would like to pay for a little (as I did for
windows) 
1) a keyboard, yes yet an otherone, like Touchpal. See
http://www.CooTek.com.

TouchPal is an innovative soft keyboard on Windows Mobile platform, powered
by T+ input technology.
Why TouchPal?
It's Cool!

"Flow" your keyboard by sweeping with your finger!
Switch between three layouts: T+, Full-Qwerty, 9-key PhonePad.
Resize your keyboard anytime!

It's Easy!
Big buttons. Finger friendly.
Up to 300 chars/min, faster than your hard keyboard!
Input puntuations, numbers and uppercase letters without view switching

It's Smart!
Powerful mistyping correction
Clever prediction based on context
Predict next word

It's Innovative!
T+ technology. Predictive + Precise.
Word association
Super big dictionaries (40,000 English words, 140,000 French words...)

It's Customizable!
"My Sentences" with parameters (e.g., "See you in X mins")
Customizable emotion symbols (e.g. :-o, ^_^)
You can develop your own layout or language pack with SDK tool. 


2) My agenda on my "Desktop" just like alarmToday see
http://www.pocketmax.net
starting apps and turning on/off wifi bluethooth is already don by
Openmokopanel

3) Make Openmokopanel better, less cpu and mem, possibility to make it lager
(my eyes are getting less)

This are my 2 cents (willing to pay a little bit more =^D, see price's an
the website's above. payment by paypall??)
hope this is wat you want,

Greetings,

Jos.


Sargun Dhillon wrote:
> 
> So, I want to start my Freerunner development back up. I was thinking
> of a few different Apps to write, please give your comments (Tell me
> what you want):
> 
> 
> 
> A) Assassin game
> A game where you can 'kill' other Openmokos, it would like Via
> Bluetooth/Wifi. This would mostly be a gimmick based off of
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_%28game%29
> B) Open Source Push
> Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole "Push E-mail, Push
> application notification." I was basically playing with the idea of
> writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps
> that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc.
> C) Traffic monitoring, and call management
> This idea entails that when you are driving at high speeds on the
> roads, it'll put your phone into a silent profile mode. It could also
> setup call forwarding/allow an SMS to come in that would unlock the
> freerunner's mode, in case of "emergency" call.
> 
> Now one thing, I'm planning on charging for these apps. A tiny bit,
> but still a bit. I need the cash.
> 
> So, tell me what do you guys want to buy first?
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Re: Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-02 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut

Hello Arne,

Thanks for replying.

I installed the old cython again -> ok
then I tryed to get python-evas again (from your site and from others) but I
never get your md5sum
and so the error installing python-evas by dpkg remains.

Sorry for asking but could the .deb on your site be corrupted? :-(

could I ask you to send it by email?

Thanks and greetings,

Jos.

debian-gta02:~# wget www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
--2009-01-02 10:54:13-- 
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
Resolving www.ginguppin.de... 212.204.60.1
Connecting to www.ginguppin.de|212.204.60.1|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb'

[ <=>   ] 8,469   --.-K/s   in 0.1s

2009-01-02 10:54:14 (82.3 KB/s) - `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb' saved
[8469]

debian-gta02:~# md5sum python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb  
482a381e3995140556952707df6c3c20  python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
debian-gta02:~# 



arne anka wrote:
> 
>> Installing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb from
>> http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24 give's me this:
>> debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
>> dpkg-deb: `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb' is not a debian format archive
>> dpkg: error processing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb (--install):
>>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> 
> check for the cython package (should be 0.9.something) and download my  
> python-evas package again. i had no problems installing it, so probably it  
> got corrupted during download.
> 
> debian-gta02:/tmp# md5sum python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> 6acafa23aca1d1110f810527d4d5b2de  python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> 
> 
>> (there is already a python-evas_0.2.1-2 in the new
>> install)debian-gta02:~# wget
>> www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> --2009-01-02 10:54:13-- 
> http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24/python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> Resolving www.ginguppin.de... 212.204.60.1
> Connecting to www.ginguppin.de|212.204.60.1|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: unspecified [text/html]
> Saving to: `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb'
> 
> [ <=>   ] 8,469   --.-K/s   in
> 0.1s
> 
> 2009-01-02 10:54:14 (82.3 KB/s) - `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb' saved
> [8469]
> 
> debian-gta02:~# md5sum python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb  
> 482a381e3995140556952707df6c3c20  python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
> debian-gta02:~# 
> 
> 
> yes, but it is built against cython 0.10, not 0.9.
> so far there where no reports if this is fixed, so on every update, that  
> tries to installing cython and python-evas i manually install all packages  
> except these two.
> you could even use pinning in /etc/apt/preferences, thus the packages  
> would be not upgraded -- but this way i always remember to check, if  
> something changed.
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Debian install today Again phyton-evas and Zhone

2009-01-01 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut

Sorry to be here again.

After a new install today Zhone does not work 

debian-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 zhone 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/zhone", line 896, in 
class pyphone_location( edje_group ):
  File "/usr/bin/zhone", line 898, in pyphone_location
class SignalGraph( evas.ClippedSmartObject ):
  File "evas.c_evas_object_smart.pxi", line 184, in
evas.c_evas.EvasSmartObjectMeta.__init__ (evas/evas.c_evas.c:29553)
SystemError: NULL result without error in PyObject_Call

Installing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb from 
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24 give's me this:
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb
dpkg-deb: `python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb' is not a debian format archive
dpkg: error processing python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 python-evas_0.2.1-2_armel.deb

(there is already a python-evas_0.2.1-2 in the new install)

Arne (or anyone else) can you help me again please?

Jos.


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fresh install debian via install.sh on SD not booting (solved)

2009-01-01 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut

Hi all,
first thinks first: Happy new year to you all!
may the best things from 2008 be the worst thinks for 2009.

afther 3 days trying to reinstall debian on the SD-card with qi bootloader
and: "QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh" my freerunner did'n boot
from SD.

I found out that te file uImage-GTA02.bin in the /boot dir was not okay.
Ather I did: 'cp uImage.bin uImage-GTA02.bin" the probelem was solved!

Maybe this is a bug in the install-script?

Maybe this not a issue for you (as it was for me)

If you have the same problem maybe this will help you.

Greetings Jos.
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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread jos
Hello,

I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up.
Can you help me please?

(I have been reading the wiki, but I don' t get it :-( )

Thanks

Jos.

Op maandag 22-12-2008 om 19:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Michele
Renda:
> Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto:
> > someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any
> > experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and
> > functionality compared to XFCE?
> > is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin
> > work (ie is there a standard systray)?
> >
> Hello, yes I was.
> 
> I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less 
> memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain 
> panel and plugins like XFCE.
> You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All 
> configurations can be done via gui.
> 
> Please, if you try it, please report your impressions.
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Re: Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

2008-12-20 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
arne anka wrote:
> > can you 
> help me a little bit more please:
>> I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
>> and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install 
>> them.
>> But I can't make out how to do it
>
> oh, just the usual debian way.
>
> for starters, the output of
> DISPLAY=:0 zhone
> would have been nice, to confirm it is really the issue i suspect.
Yes your right and yes it was the issue yuo suspected!
> if so the next step is to download both packages from their respective 
> locations and install via
> dpkg -i cython*deb
> dpkg -i python-evas*deb
> to be on the safe side, substitute the names with the full ones (don't 
> have them handy right now).
Ok this is what I needed (I'm not a debian user my flavor is Mandriva 
witch is using rpm.)

> if for some reason installation fails, because a dependency is 
> missing, apt-cache is helpful:
>
> apt-cache show libevas0
>
> produces the following output:
>
> Package: libevas0
> Priority: optional
> Section: libs
> Installed-Size: 848
> Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team 
> Architecture: armel
> Source: evas
> Version: 0.9.9.050-2
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libeet1 (>= 1.1.0), 
> libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 
> 1:4.3), libgif4 (>= 4.1.6), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 
> 2.12.0), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), librsvg2-2 (>= 2.18.1), 
> libtiff4, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)
> Recommends: libevas-engines
> Filename: pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
> Size: 260460
> MD5sum: d3106461470bf0ae680233797fdf43c0
> SHA1: 0dd27f6687b5a1ef7f19401f7515b1c3382e81aa
> SHA256: f0d2a47012992a0cd4dee98f1222891398403fb74cc197cebfb354a74e36c950
> Description: Enlightenment DR17 advanced canvas library
>  Evas is an advanced canvas library, providing six engines for 
> rendering: X11,
>  OpenGL (hardware accelerated), DirectFB, the framebuffer, Microsoft 
> Windows
>  and Qtopia.
>  .
>  Due to its simple API, evas can be developed with rapidly, and cleanly.
>  .
>  This package contains the core library and a set of image loaders 
> there  and/or savers
>  for various formats: eet, gif, jpeg, png, svg, tiff and xpm
> Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org
>
No there is no need for this it installs fine and Zhone now is running.

> the line beginning with "Filename: " shows the path to the missing 
> package inside the repo, here
>
> pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
>
> if your installation is a default one, the repo will be
>
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian
>
> so you have to point your browser/wget/whatever to
>
> http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
>  
>
>
> this is rather informational! if you are not familiar with either dpkg 
> or apt, you should refrain from wildly installing and better ask here 
> together with the output from dpkg to get help!
>
>
> after that starting zhone should work -- if not, it's probably 
> another/additional error. starting zhone like said above in such cases 
> produces useful, nay, necessary output, so please append.
>
>
So zhone is now working fine. but I have a lot to learn thank you for 
pointing me in ther right direction.

if I may ask an other question:
how can I add new programs to zhone/freerunner: I would like to use an 
agenda, navigation prog (something like tomtom), and a today screen.

Thanks for helping me,

greetings

Jos
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Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

2008-12-20 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Arne,

thanks for replying!

can you help me a little bit more please:
I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install them.
But I can't make out how to do it

So please can you teach me or direct me to a howto or so?

Hope to hear (and learn) from you,

greetings

Jos.


arne anka wrote:
> please, 
> prefix _very_ posting with name of the ditribution, you are using -- 
> make it people easy to help you!
> additionally, the best way to get support for deb...@fr would be the 
> smartphones-lists instead.
>
>
>> Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
>> question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.
>
> installing kde, just because zhone does not start is ... strange.
> for a device so limited kde is rather an overkill -- and it will 
> certainly not help you, to explore the phone facilities!
>
> if zhone does not start, the first thing is, to log in via ssh and 
> start zhone manually doing
> DISPLAY=:0 zhone
> this should give some usefull output you could post here.
> most certainly you are bitten by a bug that seems not yet to be 
> properly addressed: cython and python-evas of debian/sid does not play 
> well together, the packages are available either in any debian repos
> http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cython/cython_0.9.6.13.1-1_all.deb
>  
>
> and
> http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
> respectively (just be carefully they don't get overwritten by any 
> update or reinstall those packages afterwards until the bug is fixed).
>
> next thing: please read the debian freerunner wiki and the arcihves 
> thoroughly, there are several postings or articles explaining what to 
> do when installing a real desktop manager like xfce and that you 
> should use nodm as [k|x|g]dm replacement.

>
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starting kde on debian

2008-12-20 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello,

Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

Thanks,

Jos

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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-20 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello Andy and Michael,

Thank you for your answers.

No I did not use Qi=true!!!
But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!

and now there is a new question:

I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
(just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.

thank and greetings,

Jos


Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
>   
>> I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
>> wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
>> 
> with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?
>
>   
>> on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
>> in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
>> 
> this files should be in /boot/boot.
>
>   
>> did this all by following the debian wikki
>> 
> ...
> debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
> debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
> debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
> debian-gta02:/boot# echo "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8" 
> >boot/append-GTA02
> ...
>
> greets 
> Michael
>
>
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debian on freerunner

2008-12-18 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello,

I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:

wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh

I use Qi latest by Andy

on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin

did this all by following the debian wikki

after reboot just 2 rules and blinking cursor, after some time booting 
qt-extend from flash.

Who can help me out, what a'm I doing wrong?

thanks

Jos.

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Re: Using qi and booting from SD-cart (Andy Green)

2008-12-17 Thread jos
Hello Andy,
thanks for reacting. still have some questions if I may?

Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello,
|
| I'm using qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu
| 01-Dec-2008 02:23   26K
|
| and a sd card (came with FR 512) with ext3 and I have put the
| kernel-file into /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin (yes I renamed it)

Sounds good.
Is the renaming needed? or can I use the origional kernel name?

| Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in
and press
| power hold it down and press AUX.

You shouldn't need to press AUX
Just using power button the first line is shown very briefly and than
the black screen again. using power button 2nd time gives me the first
line and a blinking cursor without further action.

| 2 lines are shown s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19
| power_supply bat: driver faild to report 'status' properly

It has booted "a" kernel, either the one from SD Card or fallen
back to
NAND one.  These are kernel messages.

| then the screen go's black and I have to press power and AUX
again ->
| same lines appear again afther some time FR boots with flash
image
|
| I folowed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put
a
| "rootdelay=" in append-GTAXX like so:

This append-GTAXX would be append-GTA02 in this case, just
making sure.
Yes it is append-GTA02!

| But no starting up from SD.

Sounds like you are actually starting up from somewhere just not
getting
all the way.

-Andy
What can I do further, where can I find new information?
I've been reading about git and saw a patch but I don't understand how
to use it. Where can I find info on this?

thanks

Jos.


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Using qi and booting from SD-cart

2008-12-17 Thread jos
Hello,

I'm using qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu
01-Dec-2008 02:23   26K  

and a sd card (came with FR 512) with ext3 and I have put the
kernel-file into /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin (yes I renamed it)

Then I powerdown my FR (battery out), put the battery back in and press
power hold it down and press AUX.

2 lines are shown s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed -19
power_supply bat: driver faild to report 'status' properly

then the screen go's black and I have to press power and AUX again ->
same lines appear again afther some time FR boots with flash image

I folowed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put a
"rootdelay=" in append-GTAXX like so:

But no starting up from SD.

Who can help me 

thanks Jos vd Snepscheut. 


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Qi bootloader not working afther flash?

2008-12-15 Thread jos
Hello,

Being new here I have to say sorry for my English!

My question is:

I have been trying to flash the bootloader on my new FR, this is what I
did:

debian:/home/jos/neo# ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D
qi-s3c2442-master_2ad3ce6ff57753e3.udfu
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
Resetting USB...
Opening USB Device...
Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=34, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1,
name="u-boot"
Claiming USB DFU Interface...
Setting Alternate Setting ...
Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
dfuIDLE, continuing
Transfer Size = 0x1000
bytes_per_hash=540
Starting download: [##]
finished!
state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present
Done!
Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode
debian:/home/jos/neo# 

Looks good !?

After power down (battery taken out) restarting with aux and power
button I get the same screen with menu as before, is this correct?
How can I see that Qi now is beeing used (and not uboot?)

Thanks and greetings,

Jos vd Snepscheut


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