Re: literki update

[kimaidou]

2009/7/20 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak 

>
> There was patch for Illume to make transparent qwo working, which was
> differing Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard cattegories in desktop
> file. Literki should work with that patch and TransparentKeyboard
> specified.
>

I would love to see this transparency patch aplied by default on shr
unstable...
The best would be an option (conf file) to set on or off the transparency
How far from this are we yet ?
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Re: [debian] eneoset

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Great stuff, though I do not understand why your title begins with [debian].
It seems to me with the screeshots that you are running SHR.
I can be wrong.

2009/7/16 Mike Crash 

>
> May be someone will be interested, I was not satisfied with the setup
> utility
> for Neo written in Python, because it was slow and changing backlight
> brightness was only in 4 steps. So i have created small utility with ELM
> named eneoset, which can change backlight, turn on or off bluetooth and
> Wi-Fi and can change USB device/host mode. Changing USB current limit still
> doesn't work. It needs kernel version 2.6.29 (may be 2.6.28 too, but not
> tested), so don't try it on 2.6.24.
>
> http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10Download
> and screenshots you will find here.
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Mokometeo - New version 0.3

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Hi list

Thanks to Glenn Trigg, a new version of Mokometeo is out : Mokometeo 0.3
The changes are:
* Fixed the problem with the missing question.png on a new install.
* Changed the day labels to a nicer format.

You can (for now) find the source and the new ipk here :
* source : http://code.google.com/p/mokometeo/source/checkout
* ipk : http://mokometeo.googlecode.com/files/mokometeo_0.3_arm.ipk
* screenshot : http://mokometeo.googlecode.com/files/mokometeo_0.3.png

I will soo modify the wiki page and the opkg page and contents

Cheers

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Re: Sms-sentry "patch" : call me back

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I have to be more precise here : All the credit of the sms related things
are for the king author of sms-sentry, NOT ME :D

With sms-sentry (without my patch), you already can get back the gps
position of your freerunner (if it can get any gps fix) by sending an sms
with the content "sentry:location"

I have JUST added the code described in my first mail to allow another
"feature" = call back the sms sender.

Kimaidou


> Wow!
> Very impressive!
> So it'll be very easy to track you Frerunner back.
> Just add call to some script to silently report GPS location by SMS or
> (ab)using GRPS connection.
> And AFAIR it was heavily requested feature some time ago (considering
> SIM wasn't replaced yet).
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Sms-sentry "patch" : call me back

[kimaidou]

Hi all

I wanted to be able to send a sms to my freerunner (with another phone) and
then "make it" call me back on this another phone.
So I installed sms-sentry, and then add this few lines to
/usr/bin/sms-sentry in the function "on_incomming_message", just after the
bloc "if contents.startswith("sentry")"

[code]
if contents.startswith("my_secret_password"):
print "Calling back the sms sender"
mycommand = 'mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd
/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.Initiate u\\"' +
sender + '\\" u\\"voice\\"'
res = os.popen(mycommand)
print "Appel en cours"
[/code]

Then you can try to send you a sms with the content : my_secret_password ,
and a call should be initiated.
I personnaly use it to listent to my baby when I go to some friends and she
sleps in another room.

NB :
* it is very rough. If someone knows how to handle properly the dbus command
to initiate the call with the dbus python bindings, please help :D
* You can change the "my_secret_password" into whichever password you like.
* Be aware that you will pay for the call initiated by your freerunner (it
calls you back !).
* Be carefull to respect the indentation of the python script.
* I hope the email won't break the lines between the [code]

Kimaidou
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Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.

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Hi all !

Let me explain why you are frustrated : they is somtimes a big gap between
power coder who follow all the lists and tracs and wikis ("Tom") AND some
end users who know a bit of linux, are opensource lovers too, but have not
enough time and skill to understrand everything ("Jerry")

Tom works very hard and tries to follow Jerry's demands. Tom complains about
Jerry who does not thank him enough.
Jerry works hard to understand the Openmoko (but not hard enough to
understand Tom). Since he has no time or high level skill, he has just
"seen" that the next FSO will support BT. For him, "support" meant "I click
on a button when I want to use my Bt headset, and bim, it works"

For Tom, "bt headset support" means "Some guys have to develop the user
interface to help Jerry."

So for Tom, bt headset are supported, but not from Jerry's point of view.

PS : I am Jerry :D .
I followed some earlier talks of people who tryed manually to set up gsm
talks through BT headset, but it was very low level (with scary command
lines, and about 10 different manipulations to do). Then I heard FSO5.5 will
have the "famous" bt headset support. I was happy, and thought : "Ok, I will
wait for this release and then ask about UIs". Now, it seems the release is
true (not for so long), and this is why people begin to ask about bt
support.

Hope it helps people to understand themselves :D

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Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.

[kimaidou]

hum... I heard here the FSO 5.5 will provide a  "bt headset thing". Will
this change something here ? Like help people to connect the bt and transfer
audio with a dbus command ?

Kimaidou

2009/7/13 Paul Fertser 

> The Digital Pioneer  writes:
> > Progress!!! After reflashing, it now loads the gsmbluetooth statefile. I
> hear nothing over my
> > headset, but that's progress!
> >
> > Am I supposed to have a defined bluetooth device in asound.conf or
> something?
>
> Of course not. This method (with gsmbluetoothfile) uses direct PCM
> connection between WM8753 and the bluetooth chip, almost nothing to do
> with alsa (except that it is used to set correct rate for the BT DAI).
>
> Quite possibly you have the same problem i had with one of the
> headsets i tested, the symptoms are: everything works except for the
> sound transfer. Currently i have no other ideas except disabling eSCO
> support in kernel and bluez (probably it's even a bug in the firmware
> of the chip we use), but i haven't tried it yet as i don't have access
> to that non-working headset currently.
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Re: Record call.

[kimaidou]

You can user siglaunchd for running your script on each incomming or
outgoing call:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Siglaunchd

It is very simple and made for :D

2009/7/10 Ed Kapitein 

> Thanks Matthias,
>
> Seems like a fine solution to me, what switches are set to what value?
> I would like to record both the incomming voice and my own voice.
> Implementing this in a script seems not to difficult too.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 15:15 +0200, Matthias Felsche wrote:
> > Actually Dictator does not manipulate any state-file.
> > It provides its own. One for playing files that has been recorded, one
> for recording.
> > It loads the recording-state and changes two switches, depending on what
> you'd like to record.
> > It backups the previous state and reloads it when it is done.
> >
> > You have to change the state of alsa if you want to record a phonecall. I
> think there is no alternative!
> > It's easier to do with a ready state-file than by manipulating every
> single switch!
> >
> > At all, if you want something working automatically, you just have to
> listen for incoming calls (via dbus?) and when one is coming, you have to
> start (e.g.) a script
> > which loads a state with which you can record a call simultaneously and
> start arecord and end when you hang up.
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: "The Digital Pioneer" 
> > Gesendet: 10.07.09 15:03:31
> > An: List for Openmoko community discussion  >
> > Betreff: Re: Record call.
> >
> > I would think it would be easy, but given how many people have tried
> > to do it and ended up with rather unsatisfactory solutions (sorry
> > Dictator folks, but manipulating the statefiles just doesn't feel
> > like a clean solution...), I think it is not as easy as it sounds.
> > But then, what in the Freerunner is?... Apparently, no-one has
> > figured out how to reliably do bluetooth calls yet either. :(
> >
> > Also beware, if you're in the US, it's illegal to record calls
> > without warning the other party.
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Re: travel-diary a simple GPS application

[kimaidou]

ok for this
thanks for the great stuff you put on your repository. I will add it to my
feeds.


2009/7/9 Christian Rüb 

> No, there is not. I just made it being inspired by Sven's scripts. But if
> someone wants to - feel free to put i on the wiki.
>
> I have not planned any more features as it does what I need. I mainly
> posted
> here to see if there is any interest in such an app and if people find bugs
> that need urgent fixing.
>
> currently I have the git for sources [1]
> a feed to install [2]
> and some screenshots [3]
>
> My current interest is more towards finishing my (simple) dive program and
> start a more generic one afterwards. So if there are any scuba divers -
> feel
> free to join :)
>
> [1] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary
> [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
> [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/
>
> Cheers,
>  Christian
>
> > hum... Is there a wiki page for this project, so that we can follow the
> > activity without being all day on the mailing list ?
> > Thanks very much
> > Kimaidou
> >
> > 2009/7/9 Christian Rüb 
> >
> > > > On OM2009:
> > > >
> > > > r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 travel-diary.py
> > > >
> > > > (process:2313): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
> > > > Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> > > > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > > >   File "/usr/bin/travel-diary.py", line 15, in 
> > > > import fileinput
> > > > ImportError: No module named fileinput
> > > > r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list|grep fileinput
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > r
> > >
> > > fileinput.py is in python-misc - will add this as dependency and
> rebuild
> > > tonight.
> > >
> > > Thanks for reporting
> > >
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Re: travel-diary a simple GPS application

[kimaidou]

hum... Is there a wiki page for this project, so that we can follow the
activity without being all day on the mailing list ?
Thanks very much
Kimaidou

2009/7/9 Christian Rüb 

> > On OM2009:
> >
> > r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 travel-diary.py
> >
> > (process:2313): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
> > Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/bin/travel-diary.py", line 15, in 
> > import fileinput
> > ImportError: No module named fileinput
> > r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list|grep fileinput
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > r
>
> fileinput.py is in python-misc - will add this as dependency and rebuild
> tonight.
>
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Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update

[kimaidou]

I just discovered a thing :
I think the "no service" is not related to the update of this frameworkd
thing.

When I launch Shr Setttings after a reboot, I get a message "openkitd not
running, would you like to start it" or something like this. So I click on
the button start, and then after a while, I get the gsm network back.

Hope it helps

2009/7/5 Petr Vanek 

> >> > I get no service neither. ...
> >> > Should I install something ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be
> >> working ok on my end.
>
>
> not really for me, i had to revert back to my backed up system before
> the update.
>
> i will try to update again tonight...
>
> Petr
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Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update

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ok, it worked !
thanks

2009/7/5 Cameron Frazier 

> On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 12:05 +0200, kimaidou wrote:
> > I get no service neither. ...
> > Should I install something ?
>
>
> I ran a `opkg upgrade -force-depends` and everything seems to be working
> ok on my end.
>
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Re: [shr-unstable] missing dependency for latest update

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I get no service neither. ...
Should I install something ?

2009/7/5 Robin Paulson 

> 2009/7/5 Petr Vanek :
> >>there's no frameworkd-config-shr package of any revision in
> >>http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ - is this a
> >>mistake in the dependencies, or a missing package?
> >
> >
> > i ran into the same thing... does your phone work? I get No service...
>
> yep. so far all is good
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Re: Using WMS servers on TangoGPS

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Hi !
+ the the "great stuff" !
For those who cannot speak spanish, here is the direct google translation of
the blog page:
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tuxbrain.com%2Fen%2Fusando-mapas-wms-en-tangogps&sl=es&tl=en&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8

2009/7/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez 

> the ICC example uses ED50 / UTM zone 30 North, that was one of my
> first headaches, (OSM , google ... use spherical mercator) and even
> appling the tranformation there still was some offset that finally I
> have to hard code,
>  I have not tested but surely using the class included to lat-lon-> to
> UTM will give you correct spherical mercator UTM cordinates. cause is
> spherical mercator uses WGS84 datum
>
> 2009/7/3 Joseph Reeves :
> > Great stuff! :)
> >
> > What map projections are supported? I guess just spherical mercator?
> >
> > Cheers, Joseph
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/7/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
> >> Dear all,
> >> I have published a piece of PHP in the tuxbrain blog[1] that allows to
> >> "translate" the OSM tile sistem used by TangoGPS(and omgps) to a
> >> standard OGC WMS 1.1.1 web services,
> >> In the code[2] is an example implemented the Institut Catala de
> >> Cartografia (http://www.icc.cat) but I think the hard stuff (changing
> >> coordinates), change datum, etc can be reused to other wms server out
> >> there, the maps usually are free aviable for non comercial use, so I
> >> think it can be interesting to use other maps source than OSM (low
> >> detail in some zones) or google maps (not able to mass download).
> >> The article is in spanish but the source code comments are on english.
> >> As always comments are welcome.
> >>
> >> [1]http://www.tuxbrain.com/usando-mapas-wms-en-tangogps
> >> [2]http://www.tuxbrain.com/sites/default/files/tiletoUTM-0_1_tar.bz2
> >>
> >> Regards
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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

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> I usually add detail (housenumbers etc.) to areas that are already well
> mapped, so making OSM directly won't work for me. The road is already
> there, for example. GPX comments makes it easy to add only the stuff
> that is new.


Good point, so my next idea : have the 2 features ;)
* one "map from scratch into .osm" when you KNOW there is nothing here -->
directly in osm format (especially for poi, because roads require some basic
"post-processing" to become a way in osm (simplify, cut, etc.)
* one "map for josm into .GPX : what you said

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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

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I like osm2go, but here are the things wich prevent me to use it :
* not easy installation. If you encounter an error, you must create manually
the ~/.osm2go folder
* needs to set a project (not easy from the openmoko) to download the osm
vector format
* you must set many projects if you want to map in many places, because the
projects must contains very small areas not to be vry slow (best if a
rectangle of 5 km * 5km ). It is a shame you cannot start "from scratch"
* optimized for maemo screen, so not very usable with finger

But, it remains a great app, and you can try it on you debian or ubuntu :
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=830
And have a look of the wiki page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM2Go

As a conclusion, I would say I cannot use it on my openmoko which is very
frustrating since it has many great features.
This is why I think "we" must create a dedicated openmoko software for easy
editing :
* png tiles
* big "add poi" buttons with preconfigured osm tags (as osm2go does well)
* deconnected mode : import osm data / upload changes BUT without displaying
the vector data, OR only a small bit of data (new layer) chosen by the user.
Diplaying vectors make osm2go slow on the freerunner, but we need the data
to be able to commit changes

I hope I do not monopolize the subject :D

2009/6/30 David Garabana Barro 

> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 11:37:04 kimaidou wrote:
> > Sorry I have not used Osm tracker, as my only mobile pc is my openmoko. I
> > have just looked at the screen shots.
> > Bu I have used osm2go (which has been ported to openmoko :
>
> I didn't knew it, thanks for the link
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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

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Sorry I have not used Osm tracker, as my only mobile pc is my openmoko. I
have just looked at the screen shots.
Bu I have used osm2go (which has been ported to openmoko :
http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/ , see the osm2go dir and the goocanvas
dir ), and a "deconnected" edition is possible. When you reconnect, it just
sends the changes made.
So it is possible to do

2009/6/30 David Garabana Barro 

> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 11:19:33 David Garabana Barro wrote:
>
> > Having this kind of app is also a dream for me! :)
> >
> > Only one question.
> > How you upload data to OSM?
> > Can you upload all data at the end of the day, or you need to be allways
> > connected?
>
> I'm asking about OSMtracker, of course.
> I've already used omgps :)
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Mokometeo - not time but people willing to help, so..

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Hi list,

I am the author of mokometeo : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokometeo
* Glenn sent me diff files some (long ?) time ago to improve mokomeote
* Fgau added a comment on the Discussion page about the yahoo weather api :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AMokometeo&diff=71423&oldid=67713

Since I have no spare time left to do this myself, I created a google code
page with a mercurial repository :
http://code.google.com/p/mokometeo/source/checkout

Please feel free to commit the improvements.

NB : I have just discovered file versionning and mercurial. So I let people
do what they want :D
If you cannot push, it must be a misconfiguration of the google code page,
so please tell me.
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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

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Hum... speaking as a OpenStreetMap user, it would be great to "merge" the
functionalities of omgsp with those of a tool like
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomapper
meaning big buttons (9 per full-screen) allowing to store preset OSM data
such as "shop=bakery", "highway=residential", "amenity=pub", etc.. and be
able to export directly in osm format.
My idea is to get some inspiration here :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
Have a look at the screenshots, this is THE app missing on the freerunner to
dynamically add data into OSM.

Combining the map navigation of omgps and the easy editing of osm tracker
would be awesome !

Ex: I am fooling around in my city, with omgps on. Hey, this bakery is not
in the map. 3 clics further, it is ! (1clic on Osm, on click on Shops, one
click on Bakery

To be able to see if this bakery was or was not already in osm, it would be
great to have a layer "osm poi" above the "slippy mapnkik map"

This is my dream :D


2009/6/30 ivvmm 

> mqy wrote:
>
> >
> > currently, you have to stop track then view path with "track replay".
> >
>
> Please, make track replay rewindable! For huge tracks you have to wait
> forever while it gets where you wanted it to.
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Re: [shr-unstable] omgps wsod with full

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no wdod for me, but the "enlightment crrashedd;..Recover ?" when I try the
full screen in woosh, but not in tangogps., under the updated shr unstable

2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik 

> hey now! i made no mention of that lovable little keyboard. all i said
> is that i switch illum to none.
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Michal Brzozowski
> wrote:
> > Same thing happens on Om2009 by the way. Illume or enlightenment bug.
> Don't
> > blame literki :-)
> >
> > 2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik 
> >>
> >> i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death
> >> wsod, or "enlightement crashed, this is very bad..."
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowski
> >> wrote:
> >> > By wsod do you mean the "enlightement crashed, this is very bad..."
> >> > dialog?
> >> >
> >> > 2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik 
> >> >>
> >> >> well... i think iv just narrowed it down. all my current applications
> >> >> wsod on full screen because i, once again, set the illume keyboard to
> >> >> none.
> >> >> once i set it back to default everything calmed down.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, mqy wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > hi jeremy,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I encountered the WSOD two days ago with latest SHR-unstable, after
> a
> >> >> > upgrade without restart xserver or FR.
> >> >> > Haven't seen that problem again after reboot. I suggest you try
> other
> >> >> > applications (eg. tangoGPS) with full/unfull buttons, and/or do a
> >> >> > upgrade
> >> >> > then test again.
> >> >> > I will do a further check on omgps if this problem still exists
> after
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > upgrade, but don't know where to start from for now :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > jeremy jozwik wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> running shr-unstable 20090624 with the latest version of omgps on
> >> >> >> opkg.org. when i hit the "full" button i get a white screen of
> >> >> >> death.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> no terminal errors to report.
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Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

[kimaidou]

ok, I became a stubborn command line geek. :D  Aie, it happened quickly
since I got my freerunner
Thx very much

2009/6/18 jahckal 

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Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

[kimaidou]

Hi all

Thanks for this great app !
I would like to know if someone had a workaround to prevent illume to
pop up its keyboard ?
I would love to see literki do it for me ;) . This way I won't be
bother again with the illume keyboard showing any time I select a text
on any app

thanks anyway for this great app



2009/6/17, Michal Brzozowski :
> Hit the desktop icon again runs 'killall literki'.
>
> W dniu 17 czerwca 2009 23:23 użytkownik jeremy jozwik <
> jerjoz.for...@gmail.com> napisał:
>
>> is there anyway to end literki other than opening a new instance of it and
>> waiting for it to crash?
>>
>> 2009/6/17 Michal Brzozowski 
>>
>> RTF config file :-), you can set the keyboard size in there. Polish or
>>> other diacritic signs are not high on the list as I don't use them :-)
>>>
>>> 2009/6/17 Patryk Benderz 
>>>
>>> Hi Michal,
 Great idea!
 I was wondering... it would be much more comfortable to type letters, if
 keyboard would be full screen (i have big hands). Yes, i know it would
 be harder to read, but letters of the keyboard itself could be
 transparent too. Consider it Michael, and thanks for your contribution.

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Re: OpenBmap

[kimaidou]

Hi

+ 1 for the hard steps to see the polygone of one cell in the map trrough
all the lists. Why not just show all the cells in the current zoom level,
from e.g zoom level 14 or 15 (to avoid loading to many data and slowing
down). This is what we want to know : is the coverage ok in this or that
area ? If not, ok, I go there where there is no cell registered, and do som
logging.

Anyway, thanks for this great app.

2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa 

> Hi!
>
> I've been able to run openbmap (see opkg.org) for about a week now,
> here are some experiences:
>
> - Collecting cell id's is MUCH more easier than contributing to
> openstreetmap.org: all you need to do is start the openbmap app, make
> sure it has 3d fix, press the 'generate' -button (that'll be renamed
> to 'start' or 'log' or something soon :) and off you go. It records
> all the cells it sees. When you go inside, press 'quit' or 'stop'.
> When you get connected to Internet, press 'Upload'. That's it. (ok,
> before uploading you need to register at openbmap.org) -> no need to
> go and analyze the saved data afterwards.
>
> - I already discussed with Onen (#openmoko-cdevel) some issues in the
> client app (= I have no idea what all the numbers mean and OTOH it'd
> be nice to have it work as a daemon eating as little resources as
> possible, OTOH it'd be nice to have the possibility to see a
> visualization of the data collected)
>
> - about the website www.openbmap.org - it's nice to see the servers
> up&running again! I was surprised to get over 700 cells collected by
> just driving a car for 250km and taking a train back and taking a bus
> for 30 minutes in the city. Hard to believe I'd have seen 700 cells
> but if they tell I did.. http://realtimeblog.free.fr/logins_stats.php
>
> - Maps - this is the 'visualization' part of the project and I think
> that is what makes people interested and contribute - like every FLOSS
> software homepage should have 'screenshots' as one of the main menu
> items. Now you can select the country, mobile network, location area
> code and single cell to see the coverage there.
> (http://realtimeblog.free.fr/with_osm.php?mcc=244&mnc=91&step=2 )
>
> Since all I know is the country code and my cell operator.
> - sort the country list alphabetically - people don't have any idea of
> country codes (that are not the same as the phone country code:
> calling to finland needs +358 but the cell country code is 244...).
> - ok, I'm fine with selecting the mobile operator, that's something
> most of us know - but maybe sort again alphabetically, not based on
> the code none of us has ever seen..
> - but selecting the location area code - give me a break! So far we
> have 40 - 100 codes for single operator in Finland. If I wanted to
> know what's the coverage on the area of my interest, I have to just
> try to find the area I want by trying the list. And when I finally
> find that, I have to go through all the single cells individually.
> Nt very inspiring.
>
>  -> I think the country should be selected by the map: it should give
> the central coordinates and size to be used in the database search
> that then returns the information of cells. Different operators could
> be visualized by different colour. And then when I zoom in, at some
> stage it'd start showing the coverage if individual cells. And then
> clicking on a cell coverage area could give me the numbers: country
> id, operator, location area core, cell ID etc.. The current way
> expects people to want to know the coverage on one operator on one
> location area, and single cell instead of finding the cells in one
> area - which I really believe is the approach people would use more.
>
> So now we're waiting to be able to use all this information collected
> by three projects (opencellid, cellhunter and openbmap -> all the data
> has been imported to openbmap so atm it's the biggest & most precise
> as most information is collected) to locate Freerunner. It'd be great
> to have it somewhere in low levels so that GPS apps could maybe work
> on this: some daemon just provides to location information, no matter
> if it's a random guess, based on GPS, GSM cells or WLAN base stations.
> Until that, please contribute to openbmap, it's easy & fun & the next
> version of the client app will have some fixes that make using it even
> nicer.
>
>
> Thanks for everyone who have contributed to this (including the people
> of cellhunter & opencellid!)
>
> ps. is it possible to download the whole data as a single file?
>
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Re: Mokomapper.py: Script for easy OSM mapping on the road: mokomapper.py

[kimaidou]

Hi !
First thanks to pavel and to you Risto for bringing this up !

Some ideas: we should create a wiki page for this, to gather all the ideas
given here.
My fist impression :
* we need some icons for each button to help finding the things
* I think it is a good start, but why not ask for any osm mapper and try to
redefine all the hierarchy. I think for this a tool as freemind is the best
: easy and quick. I am not saying the hierarchy used is wrong, but I think
we should take the chance to have a discussion on it while trying it

Ok, here the wiki page I created :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomapper

Let's talk and improve it :D

Kimaidou

2009/6/8 Risto H. Kurppa 

> Ok, sending again to get pavel's e-mail address right this time..
>
> Hi there!
>
> There was a discussion about easy openstreetmap mapping with
> Freerunner on the road.
>
> I found mokomapper
> (http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup)
> some months ago (=I didn't write it, Pavel did (CC'd this mail to him))
> and mentioned it in the thread. Someone requested some screenshots so
> here you are: http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/mokomapper/ The readme file
> also has some output log of the script. I think the output is not in
> valid OSM format because of the broken GPS connection (maybe, I don't
> know..).
>
> I don't know how to use the app or how to import the stuff to OSM but
> to me it looks like it really is going to the right direction. It
> allows you easily to pinpoint road to left, road to right, different
> types of roads, crossroads etc etc and I'd think you could add some
> more items there quite easily since it's a simple python script..
>
> So if there's anyone with some python skills, it'd be great to give
> some love to this script so we all could easily do OSM mapping with
> only FR around.
>
> To use:
> wget
> http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?revision=1.4
> -O<http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?revision=1.4%0A-O>mokomapper.py
> chmod 755 mokomapper.py
> DISPLAY=:0 ./mokomapper.py
>
> Enjoy your freedom!
>
> r
>
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Re: request for audiotagging

[kimaidou]

hum, this is a start, indeed. Could someone test it and post screenshots
here (or anywhere else, the wiki is a great start..) ? My freerunner is in
Germany for a buzzfix :(.
Thanks in advance

2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa 

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidou wrote:
> > I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners :
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
> > It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with
> > coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ?
>
> See my previous post:
>
> > There's some kind of mapping GUI at
> > http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup
> > It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed
> > limits etc.
> >
> > I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here:
> > http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the
> > comments by pavel)
> >
> > I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn
> > biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool
> > to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If
> > one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful
> > combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then
> > read the street names.
>
>
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Re: request for audiotagging

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Hi all

My experience of OSM mapping :
* tango gps : just gps tracks
* OSM2go : live editing (get position by gps, download, view and edit the
vector OSM data with synchro of the changes on upload) --> great, but a bit
heavy and has no soud recording tool
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2go
and
http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/ (you must install first the goocanvas,
then osm2go-data and then osm2go. Before loading it, you must create the
conf folder with

mkdir ~/.osm2go/


I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with
coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ?



2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa 

> OSM yes, Openmoko Yes.
>
> There's some kind of mapping GUI at
> http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup
> It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed
> limits etc.
>
> I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here:
> http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the
> comments by pavel)
>
> I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn
> biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool
> to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If
> one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful
> combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then
> read the street names.
>
> So far I've been just recording the track with tangogps and taking
> photos and then sync gps and EXIF times.
>
> regarding JOSM, I wouldn't use it on FR: I want a big screen to be
> able to do precisely what I want, to analyze the saved audio/gps/POI
> data.. (and I son't know what's the status of Java on OM..)
>
> Please don't let this thread die before we have a good solution!
>
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Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

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hummm... no reaction to my /q\w/e\r/t\y/  idea ;)  ?


2009/6/3 pike 

> Hi
> > It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent
> keyboard
> > for the freerunner within one year.
>
> I did try the list of keyboards last year
> and couldnt live with them. But the current one - shipping
> with om2009 - is pretty good. Even with fingers.
> So, there's been progress..
>
> What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
>
> thanks,
> *-pike
>
>
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Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

[kimaidou]

Hi all

Another idea to use the triangles but without dead spaces (so compatible
with small screen)
What about alternate orientations for each key, a bit like this:

/q\w/e\r/t\y/...

This way you have more space in the top on w, r and y, and more space on the
bottom for q, e and t. I mean more space compared to the squared keys like
this :
|q|w|e|r|t|y|

Has anyone tried it yet ? I have the feeling it would ROCK   ^ ^

Kimaidou


t, so it's at easy to write small commands in the terminal.
>
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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

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Hey, how fast you were ! I am sure someone on the hackable-user list
would help testing this debian package. I just forward your email to
this list : Hi list :D

Thanks to any volunteer :D

2009/5/22, c_c :
>
> Hi,
>
> kimaidou wrote:
>>
>>>I would love to be a debian package tester :D
>>
>  Ok. Here's the first version. Hope someone else can do the honours.
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2956951/guitartune-0.35.deb guitartune-0.35.deb
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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

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hi
I would love to be a debian package tester :D
Btw, I just send my freerunner to Germany for a buzz fix, so I won't
be able to test until I get it back. :D If everythings goes as
expected, it should be in 3 weeks

Kimaidou

2009/5/22, c_c :
>
> Hi,
>
> kimaidou wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to create a deb package for guitar tune too ?
>>
> Sure. :-) Well, since I don't use debian - I don't remember to create deb
> packages.
> Anyway, since this will be my only second effort - please help me test the
> package.
>
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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

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Hi c_c
hum...I am sorry I asked you the same question for every good tool you create :D
Is it possible to create a deb package for guitar tune too ?
This way I will be able to get rid of my old guitar tuner :D

2009/5/22, c_c :
>
> Hi,
>   I've released guitartune v0.35. This should fix the alsa state problems.
>
>   Guitartune can be used tune almost all instruments (from A0 to C8). Needs
> fftw3 from angstrom feeds.
>
>  To Install:-
>
> opkg install libglade-2.0-0 gtk+
> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk
> http://www.opkg.org/packages/guitartune_0.35_arm.ipk
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Re: NEW e-tasks Alpha release Updated

[kimaidou]

to sync with evolution, there is an amazing simple to called
syncevolution which uses the syncml protocol to sync with a server (as
funambol eg). I use it on my desktop, and it rocks !
Your tasks app must use the evolution data server.

The only pbm : one has to compile it for the freerunner. If someone
around has good compilation skills :D

2009/5/21, c_c :
>
> Hi,
>  Here's the latest release. Changes :-
>  * added notes to tasks
>  * some minor gui fixes and cleanups
>  * purge button to remove all deleted tasks (from the deleted category)
>
>   Still scratching my head about how to sync with evolution.
>
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2949930/e-tasks_0.20_arm.ipk e-tasks_0.20_arm.ipk
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Re: PISI 0.2 released

[kimaidou]

I told in serveral emails that the "dates" software from the pimlico
(openmoko-dates2 in some distros) project uses the evolution data
server : the calendar of this app is in ICS format and stored here :
~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics

Another app is gpe-calendar.

Kimaidou

2009/5/18, Michael Pilgermann :
> Francesc,
> to be honest - I am not aware of any client. And, I am not too sure,
> which Calendar client is the first one, that would need to be supported
> by PISI.
> I would aim for opimd support over the next weeks as I guess, this will
> be the plattform to be used in this area.
> Any comment / objection? I would be happy to get some more input for
> these things ...
>
> Greetings
> Mike
>
> Francesc Romà i Frigolé wrote:
>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Michael Pilgermann > <mailto:kichka...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>> We just released PISI 0.2.
>>
>> Loads of enhancements were applied to Calendar synchronization - now
>> supporting Google Calendar and ICalendar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any calendar application that uses the iCalendar format or can
>> import/export it?
>>
>> thanks
>> Francesc
>>
>>
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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[kimaidou]

hum hu, and have you found a way to create a deb package, or the
elemetary lib is still missing ?

Thx in advance

2009/5/15, c_c :
>
> Hi,
>
>  Ok. Done. Latest working code in the svn. All image files, icon and
> .desktop file in a directory called resources under trunk.
>
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

Ok, after some more searches, I found that a
"apt-get -f install"
with no package name after forced the installation of these packages.

I will try with different ipk packages and report here.

2009/5/12 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:13:39PM +0200, kimaidou wrote:
> > No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still
> get:
> >
> > You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be
> installed
> > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
> specify
> > a solution).
> >
> > Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?
>
>I don't know. I've seen that "but it is not going to be installed"
> message many times when trying to install packages (from the official
> Debian
> repository) on Debian. Apt-get is most unhelpful when it comes to error
> messages, basicly just saying: "I know exactly what the problem is, but I
> won't tell you." :-(
>
>   But, to try to debug the problem, what happens if you say
>
> # apt-get --dry-run install python-pygtk python-subprocess
>
> ?
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still get:

You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify
a solution).

Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?

Thanks for your help


2009/5/11 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:55:39AM +0200, kimaidou wrote:
>
> > My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
> > packages.. but it is not related to your script.
>
>Did you add the repository from part 1?
>
> # echo  >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list \
> # 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /'
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

Thanks for your help
i change sh into bash, and it works now.

My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
packages.. but it is not related to your script.

Thanks a lot

2009/5/11 Stefan Monnier 

> > debian-gta02:~# apt-get-file install
> > http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
> > trap: 26: ERR: bad trap
>
> > Any clue ?
>
> The script uses /bin/sh but actually relies on bashisms, so if your
> /bin/sh is actually something else (like dash, according to my crystal
> ball), you need to tweak the script with a patch such as the one below.
>
>
>Stefan
>
>
> === modified file 'apt-get-file' (properties changed: -x to +x)
> --- apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:41:44 +
> +++ apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:47:27 +
> @@ -23,9 +23,12 @@
>  exit 1
>  }
>
> -trap exit_clean ERR
> -set -o errexit
> -set -o errtrace
> +# Bashisms.
> +#trap exit_clean ERR
> +#set -o errexit
> +#set -o errtrace
> +# For Dash.
> +trap exit_clean ILL QUIT SEGV HUP 0
>
>  if [ "--verbose" = "$1" ]; then
> shift
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

Waou ! This is great ! Thanks for this

Hum, I just tried and I got this error:

debian-gta02:~# apt-get-file install
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
trap: 26: ERR: bad trap

Any clue ?


2009/5/10 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 

>   For part 1, please see the mailing list archive:
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043753.html
>
>   Below you will find a shell script to install a package from a .deb, .opk
> or .ipk file on a Debian system. It will
>
>- download the package if necessary.
>- repack gzipped tar archives if necessary (some *.ipk).
>- edit the control file for Debian compatibility (*.opk and *.ipk).
>- jump through hoops so apt-get can be used for installation,
>so dependencies can be resolved necessary.
>- delete all temporary files created.
>
>   Dependencies: dpkg-dev wget file binutils tar gzip
>
>   Usage: apt-get-file [--verbose] install  [apt-get options]
>
>   I'm sure there are still small bugs around the edges, so this is only
> alpha quality. I'm posting the script now because it mostly does what it's
> supposed to do and I want to get some feedback.
>
>   Example run:
>
> # ~rask/bin/apt-get-file install
> http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
> --2009-05-1006:49:26--
> http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
> Resolving projects.openmoko.org... 88.198.93.218
> Connecting to projects.openmoko.org|88.198.93.218|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 13214 (13K) [application/binary]
> Saving to: `ledclock_0.6_all.ipk'
>
> 100%[>]
> 13,214  --.-K/s   in 0.1s
>
> 2009-05-10 06:49:28 (99.5 KB/s) - `ledclock_0.6_all.ipk' saved
> [13214/13214]
>
>  ** Packages in archive but missing from override file: **
>  ledclock
>
>  Wrote 1 entries to output Packages file.
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>  python-pygtk python-subprocess python2.6-minimal
> Suggested packages:
>  binfmt-support
> Recommended packages:
>  python2.6
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  ledclock python-pygtk python-subprocess python2.6-minimal
> 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 112 not upgraded.
> Need to get 1331kB/1344kB of archives.
> After this operation, 4780kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
>  python-pygtk python-subprocess ledclock
> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
> Get:1 http://ftp.dk.debian.org experimental/main python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-3
> [1330kB]
> Get:2 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk  python-pygtk 2.14.1-2 [576B]
> Get:3 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk  python-subprocess 2.6.1-3 [582B]
> Fetched 1331kB in 2s (451kB/s)
> debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
> Selecting previously deselected package python-pygtk.
> (Reading database ... 45694 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking python-pygtk (from .../python-pygtk_2.14.1-2_all.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package python2.6-minimal.
> Unpacking python2.6-minimal (from .../python2.6-minimal_2.6.1-3_armel.deb)
> ...
> Selecting previously deselected package python-subprocess.
> Unpacking python-subprocess (from .../python-subprocess_2.6.1-3_all.deb)
> ...
> Selecting previously deselected package ledclock.
> Unpacking ledclock (from .../ledclock_0.6_all.deb) ...
> Processing triggers for man-db ...
> Setting up python-pygtk (2.14.1-2) ...
> Setting up python2.6-minimal (2.6.1-3) ...
> Could not find platform dependent libraries 
> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to [:]
> Setting up python-subprocess (2.6.1-3) ...
> Setting up ledclock (0.6) ...
> #
>
>   And the script itself:
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> # apt-get-file - Install package from .deb, .opk or .ipk file.
> # Copyright (c) 2009 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 
>
> #   This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
> #   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 as
> #   published by the Free Software Foundation.
>
> #   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> #   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> #   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
> #   GNU General Public License for more details.
>
> #   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> #   along with this program.  If not, see .
>
> exit_clean () {
>cd / || true
>[ -z "${APTSRC}" ]  || rm -rf -- "${APTSRC}"
>[ -z "${APTLIST}" ] || rm -rf -- "${APTLIST}"
>[ -z "${PKG_TMPD

Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea

[kimaidou]

+1000 for having gui for easily pair to a Bt headset AND route the sound.
This app is really missing, as a BT headset is the only way to avoid the
anoying Buz without make surgery on my freerunner

Pleaaasse !  :D

2009/5/8 jeremy jozwik 

> copyu failed for me on shr-testing 20090422. bluetooth was enabled but
> ive just found that you need to manually start the bluetooth through
> the terminal on other distributions.
> im going to try later this week again
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2009a  at 11:13 AM, rakshat hooja 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven **
> > 
> >
> >>
> >> , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is
> >> OBEX), etc.  This is the feature I am currently missing most.
> >>
> >> -Steven
> >
> > Does copyu work for you to send files?
> >
> > Rakshat
> >
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:23 AM, rakshat hooja 
> wrote:
> >> > My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and
> >> > interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So
> I
> >> > am
> >> > looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one
> >> > person.
> >> >
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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[kimaidou]

Hi c_c

Thanks for the link. I tryed to download it via wget, then install it with
dpk -i, but it failed :
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i intone-0.40.deb
dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in header info member in intone-0.40.deb
dpkg: error processing intone-0.40.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 intone-0.40.deb

It seems the header of the deb file is wrong

2009/5/8 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>
> Christian Gagneraud wrote:
> >
> >>hum doesn't work with om 2009
> >
> can you post the error?
>
> Christian Gagneraud wrote:
> >
> >>Thank you for your work, it looks cute!
> >
>  You're Welcome.
>
> @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since
> I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't
> know
> what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the
> following packages on debian ?
>  -elementary (providing libelementary)
>  -mplayer
>  -sqlite3
>
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb
>
> @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for
> installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of
> elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer
> libraries.
>
> @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The
> newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a
> ipk
> for the older libraries soon.
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

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>  Yup. Debian package too coming this time :-)
> --
>

GREAAT, thx
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[kimaidou]

Hi c_c

Sorry if I already asked the question : would it be possible to release a
debian deb package for intone ? I know there are other possibilities, but
your soft is very handy...
Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/5/7 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>
> Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> >
> > but I still get the "black" page bug. This is quite strange
> > since I only get this behavior with this elementary application
> >
>   I cant seem to replicate this. Of course, in all probability, it
> must be something I'm doing wrong :-). Can you - if you have
> the time - go through the init code and see what could be off?
>
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Re: Network Management

[kimaidou]

@ Yozig : I partially agree with you, but...hey ! The best would be to share
your little scripts for people who cannot understand scripts (or english)
easily enough to make a proper one
:D
I know the wiki has a lot of information, but it is hard to understand all
the things (especially for networking). For example, I can just dummly
copy/paste the scripts, but I understand nothing about netmasks, masquerade
and everything. I know "we" can learn, but some guys have less time ans
learning skills than others

Cheers

Kimaidou

2009/5/4 Yogiz 

> On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:12:23 -0700
> "Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:
>
> > On May 3, 2009, at 1:55 PM, roby wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, RodM  wrote:
> > >> Once that happens, I will bring my OM out of the box, and start
> > >> utilizing it
> > >> again.
> > > you won't know when that happens, leaving it in the box...
> > >
> > > -- just joking, no flame --
> > > --
> > > roby
> >
> > Which is fine as well.
>
> What do you want plug-and played? Usb connection? Wifi? GPRS? It all
> seems like simple scripting when using the framework. I mostly only use
> Wifi and it wasn't too hard to make a shortcut on the desktop that
> turns on wifi and connects to preferred AP, if one doesn't exist then a
> free AP with the best connection quality and if that does not exist,
> flash the led so I know no APs are available. I'm not sure it could be
> made any more easier so with what exactly are you having problems with?
>
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

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ok, il will dive deep in the wiki pages

2009/4/29 Franky Van Liedekerke 

> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM, kimaidou  wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply. You said "Well, I personally don't use 2.6.24
> kernels
> > anymore, but my install". Why so ? Is there a better kernel to use ?
>
> read the archives ... and the beginning of my install script: I use a
> 2.6.28 kernel from April 4th (but then: no bluetooth ..)
>
> > Another question : i heard there are many different version (based on FSO
> or
> > based on Debian). Is there a webpage with all the different versions, and
> a
> > comparison to help choosing among them ?
>
> openmoko wiki pages help you there
>
> > I have juste tested the command lines you gave (thx !), and it worked
> well.
> >
> > Btw, should I use exactly the same command lines when a new version
> arrives
> > ? (i think so, but just a confirmation)
>
> yup
>
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

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Thanks for the reply. You said "Well, I personally don't use 2.6.24 kernels
anymore, but my install". Why so ? Is there a better kernel to use ?

Another question : i heard there are many different version (based on FSO or
based on Debian). Is there a webpage with all the different versions, and a
comparison to help choosing among them ?

I have juste tested the command lines you gave (thx !), and it worked well.

Btw, should I use exactly the same command lines when a new version arrives
? (i think so, but just a confirmation)

Thanks again

Kimaidou
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

[kimaidou]

Hi

I have just a question to clarify the installation process from scratch. I
am now flashing my freerunner with the image and rootfs from qte 4.4.3 (
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/qt-extended-4.4.3-rootfs.jffs2AND
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin)

Then I will boot on my qte and activate the ssh connection with internet
sharing

Sould I download the tar
qte_20090427.tgzand
just extract it (could you give the tar command line please ?)
OR should I use the script ?

Thanks in advance

2009/4/28 Franky Van Liedekerke 

> New location for the files, watch out!
>
> (install instructions and script updated on 2090427: see below)
>
> Problems solved:
> 
> See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues-fixed.txt
>
> Latest:
>
> - 20090427: backspace key added to the keyboard, made the keyboard
> faster in non predictive mode
> - qpe.sh startup script adapted to correct for bluetooth patchs
> differences in 2.6.24 and 2.6.28 kernels. But for the moment, openmoko
> doesn't provide the bluez3 package anymore, so no bluetooth at all for
> new installs for now
>
> See http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commits/master for the changes
>
> Problems found (more like small nuisances now):
> ===
> See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues.txt
>
> Install instructions:
> =
> download the script
> http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments
> at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having
> flashed the device and made sure internet works).
> For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download
> the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it:
> http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qte_20090427.tgz.
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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

[kimaidou]

Hi Lukasz

1st, thanks for this great application. I would like to know:
* if you planed to release a deb package for the debian based distros
* if you planned to add the features wich mimate the sun rising by
increasing the light step by step as the sound increase the volume. The best
would be to go from red to orange, then yello then white :D

Thx again

2009/4/27 Łukasz Pankowski 

> "Steven **" 
> >
> writes:
>
> > A well written app that works quite well under latest SHR-testing
> > (installed via opkg directly from SHR feeds).
>
> Nice to hear.
>
> > One area I think needs improvement ASAP:  my Freerunner suspends (thus
> > silencing the alarm) before the alarm gets loud enough to really wake
> > me up.  SHR goes back to suspended after about 1 minute even if
> > ffalarms is playing the alarm. There are two things that would help
> > this:
> > 1. Make the loudness increase by more with each step. Ideally this
> > would be configurable.
>
> Currently it increases the volume +1 each second, I may make the time
> between increases configurable in config file if you insist that fixing
> point 2. (see below) is not enough for you.
>
> > 2. Make ffalarms prevent suspend for a time, maybe 5 minutes.  (Note
> > that it would be REALLY bad to prevent suspend indefinitely, as I
> > might forget I set an alarm and walk away from the phone, only to come
> > back hours later to an empty battery)
>
> I will try to fix the suspend issue this weekend (time is scarce) that
> is avoid suspending until you stop the alarm.
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

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thanks a lot !

2009/4/27 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>
> kimaidou wrote:
> >
> > And what about a debian .deb package ?
> >
>  Well, I hadn't thought of one. Thanks for bringing this up. Will have to
> read some tutorials on how to make one. I think they are quite similar to
> the .ipk's in that they too have a control file etc.
>  The next release - coming soon - will have a .deb package too.
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

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Hi c_c

And what about a debian .deb package ? There are already some music player
packages, but none is as finger friendly as inton (my opinion), e.g Sonata,
or gmpc (which are frontend for mpd )

Thanks in advance
Kimaidou

2009/4/27 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>  The openmoko feeds have changed some library names to something like
> libecore_evas-ver-pre-01.so.0. And now programs compiled here don't run on
> any other distribution.
>  Will need more time to come up with a release. I'm pretty much done adding
> dbus support and have altered the finger size to hopefully better
> propotions.
>  Will release soon.
>
>
>
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Re: BT Hands Free Kit

[kimaidou]

Hi
What you want to do is feasible (I read post on the list with people telling
they achieved to use ther bt headset with the freerunner), but it seems to
be hard (and manual with around 5 steps). So I am waiting for some
developpers to create a soft running on the freerunner which would
facilitate these things (discovering the bt headset, pairing, routing the
sound to and from the bt headset). I have seen 2 projects for this :
* http://shrbluetooth.googlecode.com/ (a work in progress)
* http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/noko/index.php?title=NokoBtm
I have not tested them yet


The link you gave is very interested, but I think it is the opposite
objective : the software there has to be installed on a linux desktop
computer (or laptop) and is made to "transform" the PC into a bt headset.
With it, it is said you can then use you PC mic and speaker to make calls
with any BT mobile phone. By the way it was exactlu what I was searching, so
I will test it when I have time. But it is not what you want. If I
understoof correctly, you already have a bt headset and you need a software
running on the freerunner to connect the headset to you freerunner.

Kimaidou

2009/4/23 Joerg Eesmann 

> Hello there,
> I am reading many things about BT-headsets and everything. Is there any
> possibility to use the Freerunner together with the Hand Free Kit in the
> car? I tried in my car, but the car does not find the Freerunner
> (OM2008.12 kustomized).
> Has anybody an idea?
> I found this http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html as a bluetooth
> project.
>
> Anything would help:
> best would be something like:
> ... use XYZ.opk and it will work!
> in worst case a bluetooth protocol description for hands free kits would
> also help.
>
> any idea would be appreciated.
> be safe,
> Joerg
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

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>
> Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or
> create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to
> Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short
> signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python.
> I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides
> some kind of mailbox.
> But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free!
>

Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited :
* you cannot keep a message as long as you want,
* you cannot copy the message to you PC,
* you cannot use a "I am not here" message different for each caller (e.g :
a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.)
* you cannot forward a voice message to another person
*etc.

Kimaidou


>
> Matthias
>
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

[kimaidou]

Yes, why not. As a user, it is not important for me if this is diktaphone or
asterisk which does it. I do not know many things about sounds, routing,
etc., so I cannot argue :D
If asterisk can do it , let's use asterisk ! But we (dumm users) will need
"end-user" simple tuto to achieve some things :D

Anyway, I think it would be a great feature

2009/4/23 Stefan Monnier 

> > Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
> > * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
> > * play a previously save wav file as a "I not here at the moment blabla "
> > welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
> > * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names
> for
> > the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)
>
> > I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
> > from a "dictator" function, but yeahhh, this would be great !
>
> Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.
>
>
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

[kimaidou]

Humm.

Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please
give a link ?
Thanks in advance

2009/4/23 matthias 

> What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in
> gtk too?
> Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked
> into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could
> convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like.
>
> But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more
> suitable, maybe it's not worth the work.
>
>
> Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
> > kimaidou  writes:
> >
> >> * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ?
> Have
> >> you any clue how to do it ?
> >>
> >
> > Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
> > data. If you to "ask" the GPS for the current location you get
> > lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
> > car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to
> the phone at all.
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

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Another feature request :

Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
* answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
* play a previously save wav file as a "I not here at the moment blabla "
welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
* record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for
the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
from a "dictator" function, but yeahhh, this would be great !
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Use my GSM from my laptop via USB (or BT, wifi) ?

[kimaidou]

Hi list

Many great applications allow us to use the freerunner as a device for the
laptop :
* simulate a bluetooth GPS receiver : BtGps
http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html
* use the freerunner as a GPRS modem : GprsModem :
http://www.opkg.org/package_205.html
* use the freerunner as a Wi-Fi Hotspot Access Controller : CoovaChili :
http://www.opkg.org/package_176.html
* use the fr as a remote control : ReMoKo :
http://www.opkg.org/package_14.html
* etc.

I would like people to tell me about the feasibility to use the GSM chipset
from my laptop. What I want to be able to do is to
* use one of the 3 connections : USB, Wifi or bluetooth between my laptop
and my freerunner
* start or answer a regular GSM call (not sip)
* use my laptop speakers (or headset pluged in the out pin of my laptop) and
the laptop microphone instead of those of the freerunner

This way
* we would be able to call "hands free" while working or surfing
* there would be no buzz for the remote person talking to you
* we could have a full answering machine software
* etc.

So my question are :
* Is it feasible ?
* Has someone the skills, time and will to develop some scripts or full
software to do it ?

Cheers
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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

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thanks a lot :D

2009/4/22 Nicola Mfb 

> 2009/4/21 kimaidou :
> > Hi
> > thanks for this feedback !
> > Could you please write a wiki page about this, if not already done ?
>
> I started a page at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Asterisk
> Everyone interested is invited to correct (english is not my native
> language) and collaborate, there is a lot to do :)
>
> Regards
>
>  Nicola
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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

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Hi
thanks for this feedback !
Could you please write a wiki page about this, if not already done ?

Thanks again

Kimaidou

2009/4/21 Nicola Mfb 

> 2009/4/19 Nicola Mfb :
> > Some alsa guru may take a look at the chan_alsa.c file of asterisk
> 1.4.17?
>
> Jaroslav Kysela of ALSA pointed me to the problem (thanks), and
> effectively asterisk code does not support dmix plugin in it's state,
> I corrected it with a fast 2 line change workaround working only with
> dmix (a real patch is needed), and now asterisk/alsa is working great
> and stable.
> It's about two hours that I'm listening some mp3 on it sent by ekiga
> on the laptop :)
> I'll update about my progress on AMI interface soon.
>
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

[kimaidou]

+1 for putting the gps information (lat, long, date and time, hpv dops) .
But please, OSMers, could you please help to know what you prefer :
* adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
you any clue how to do it ?
* just create a text file with the same name as the wav file and containing
this info
* just name each wav file with the long and lat and date time ?

Please help. I would love to have this too, but we need more precisions.

2009/4/21 David Garabana Barro 

> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:17:41 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
>
> First of all, thank you for the application :)
>
> > The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org, I've thought that
> > it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
> > OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
> > capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to prospect
> > them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).
>
> It wold be REALLY great to have such an application on Neo for OSMers :)
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Re: [SHR-testing] sms app does not display neither date nor sender

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my answers :

2009/4/21 ivvmm 

> Hello list.
>
> Various people have reported recently that the shr-messages(or
> openmoko-messages3?) application does not display the timestamp. But
> what is much more annoying it does not associate the phone number with
> the name from the SIM card's phone book. Does anyone experience this too?


--> yes, I have the same issue

>
>
> Moreover I cannot create an phonebook entry in my native language, only
> in ASCII. Is this also a common issue? I am asking because one can type
> SMS in their native language, which means that the bug with not
> supporting UTF-8 in SHR has gone, but why not for phonebook?

--> do not know since I always wirte contacts name in "simple" letters so
that I have no pbm when synchronizing / copying them

>
>
> And the third question: what's the difference between applications
> openmoko-messages3 and shr-messages(and also for phonebook)? My opkg
> always reports errors about a package shr-messages which wants to
> overwrite files owned by openmoko-messages3 package.
>
> --> there is a current process of renaming shr dialer, contacts and
messages applications. It is not over, so I think you should wait a litlle
bit

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Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

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Thank you again !

2009/4/21 Francesco de Virgilio 

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> > I second that emotion! :) It is by far the best distro ever tested on my
> > Neo.
> > Not only that, but they also got rid of a few nasty bugs: the GPRS link
> > (now included out-of-the-box) no longer stalls, the USB networking with
> > Windows boxes is restored, and the "messages" and "dialer" apps no
> > longer crash randomly. And Raster's keyboard finally works the way it
> > should (fast and clean). Very nice indeed.
> > Kudos to everyone, not just the SHR team for a great integration effort,
> > but also to the kernel and application teams.
>
> Quote all :D
>
> I think we could create a "thanks thread" to give moral effort and
> appreciation to SHR team ad collaborative users :D
>
> Thanks again guys ;)
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Re: sunlight readable LCD

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Hi list

And what about just sort of a black ribbon put around the freerunner, like a
hat or a crown 2 or 3 centimeters high ? We leave the bottom of the
freerunner (the ring part) free, so that the hand can easily access the
touchscreen.

As on said, your head provide shade (protect from the glade of the sky) and
the black ribbon will protect from the light coming on the edges. (a black
power tape would do the job)

It won't cost much !


2009/4/16 vale 

>
> i would be interested too. an outdoor case and lcd for the neo would be
> great.
>
> perhaps it can be a case where the neo fits in, and lcd is connected via
> usb. also we can put in a better gps antenna connected to the external
> gps-antenna-connector.
>
> we can use it as navigation system not only on a bike also for geocaching
> or just to walk around ;)
>
> hope we get something running!
>
> best regards
>
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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Hi ! Yes I saw this too. It is a shame, as syncing is really needed on a
mobile device.

By the way since last week "dates" and "tasks" are available in the SHR
unstable repository.
So if you are running Shr unstable, just do
*opkg install dates tasks*
to instal these apps


2009/4/15 Michael Pilgermann 

> I remembered that I had had a close look on the website already - and I
> just did so again.
>
> I see two problems here: first of all it is written in C (PISI uses
> Python); but nevertheless I think, I could re-use at least some of their
> ideas ...
> Second: the Sync-part of Pimlico does not progress much ... when checking
> the SVN, I noticed that the last entry (in Changelog) is from end of 2006;
> other parts are under much higher progress (e.g. Contacts) ...
>
> So - for coming to an end - I haven't yet contacted the developers;
> however, I keep an eye on this project and will try to re-use stuff whenever
> possible ...
>
> Greetings, Mike
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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Sorry I have just forgotten : have you contacted the pimlico developpers ?
They already have begun to implement opensync integration.

Regards
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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Hi
My comments follow

2009/4/14 kichkasch 

>
> About PISI - I am one of the developers there and I am happy to read about
> all the input for further developments here.
> As it looks to me now, there are different options, which probably have
> different priorities. I have been pretty much busy with the Contacts part of
> PISI; my brother will now start pushing the Calendar part a bit more (after
> I will have done some refactoring on this side by the end of this week).
> First task there for him will be proper ICS support. There is a Python
> library available for doing all the low level files read / write (which I
> used sucessfully for VCF files already); so it shouldn't be too much
> troubles to come up with a proper implementation.


Great news ! I think ics support will allow a lot of things


> For the contacts part, I would need some more input for requested data
> sources. For now, we support QTopia address book (SQLite, e.g. OM 2008.12),
> LDAP Server, VCF files and Google Contacts. Awaiting are:
> - opimd support
> - SIM card support
> - SyncML / Opensync support


Synclm (and I suppose Opensync) does not only handle contacts, but all the
pim data as calendars, tasks, notes and contacts

>
> - Online VCF support (just download / upload the file)
> - Pimlico / Evolution
>
> My impression is, that SyncML / Opensync is my next task. I was searching
> for some libraries already; and I found two implementations at a very early
> stage - I will go and test them soon.


I think it is a 'must have' feature if you do not want to re invent the
wheel. There are so many different clients for syncml servers (PDA, palm,
windows mobile, outlook, thunderbird, webpages, etc.) . Syncml is about to
sync both ways.

>
> The Evolution / Pimlico stuff - I thought would be somehow outdated already
> on the Openmoko!? The upcoming 2009 will be opimd?? Well, last time I looked
> for it, it had not progressed much behind the initial idea.


I think we must let the user choose. This is the power of free softwares. At
the moment, opimd does not handle calendar, tasks and notes (I can be wrong)
and -no offense to the developpers- we wait for it for quite a long time. If
someone has some good news.. On the other side, pimlico already has a
calendar and tasks application. I do not think pimlico is outdated but still
in early stage.
And opimd is not used by all the distributions. For example, Hackable:1 uses
the pimlico suite to handle the contacts.

I am really glad you and your brother work on this very needed feature for
the openmoko ! Thanks a lot


>
> BTW: Has anybody yet tested PISI on a distribution other than OM 2008.12? I
> always tested on this one ...
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Re: [SHR] GPRS, again

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2009/4/14 Pander 

> kimaidou wrote:
> > Have you tried to update the module with ppp-generic :
> >
> > echo ppp-generic > /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
> > update-modules
> > shutdown -r now
>
> thanks! finally it works :D


It must work from the SHR setting too.


>
>
> Can this be included in the default SHR build?


+1 for this
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Re: [SHR] GPRS, again

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Have you tried to update the module with ppp-generic :

echo ppp-generic > /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
update-modules
shutdown -r now

This works great for me.
For debuggin and connecting via terminal, I use :

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext mygprs x x

Replace mygprs with your provider adress. You must leave the double x at the
end : they are here for "no user and password needed"

Kimaidou

2009/4/14 Pander 

> Hi all,
>
> Still I cannot get GPRS working on unstable, although I have gotten an
> subscription with GRPS about 4 months ago, hoping I could use it with SHR.
>
> I tried the settings menu but that did not work. Even manually editting
> shr_grps.py to the correct APN, login and password did not help.
>
> Manually, I have also tried:
>  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogpsd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
> org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet
>
> (my provider has internet as APN and empty string as login and passwd)
>
> The result is:
>  /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext failed:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod
>
> What is THE way to get GRPS working on SHR?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pander
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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@rixed about the scambio project : No offense, but I do not understand why
you don't use well-known and working standards as syncml or opensync ?
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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Hi,

Please correct me if I am wrong (I am just a user): I understood there was a
rewrite / adaptation of the pimlico dates and tasks to fit the look and feel
of Openmoko distribution. So the applications openmoko-dates2 and
opnemoko-tasks2 were put in the OM distributions and repositories.

But
* I think/heard that these openmoko versions were not the last version of
the original pimlico project or do not follow the evolution of the pimlico
project (I may be wrong). Now the version number of pimlico is 4.6.
* Now, you can install the openmoko versions only on OM distributions. On
SHR, I tried to use the Angstrom repository as I wrote in the wiki :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico , but It is not a correct way because
if you use this repository under SHR without breaking the installtion. So I
opened a ticket in the SHR trac for this...
http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/376

The best would be someone with the knowledge, time and will to compile it to
an "simple" ipk and then put it on opkg.org

On debian, you can easily test them with
apt-get install dates tasks

About syncing and data from the web:
* with the last version, I think you can open a ics file from the web
* the 4th tool from pimlico is about syncing.. I hope it is just a matter of
time http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html
* the projet PISI would like to implement the support of ICS files. If so,
pbm solved ! http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html  I am in contact with them
to speak about pimlico
* the data format of the pimlico suite is based on the Evolution project
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/   There are tools to sync the data
withy the well-known syncml protocol
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syncevolution?s[]=syncml  So someone must be able
to adapt / port it on the moko ?
* you can copy / paste the ics files located here :
~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
Ok, this is a very rough way, but it is ok if you only modify

For now, it has no alarm support. Personally, I do not care, but people
might.

As a conclusion I would like to say that I use my freerunner as a
professional mobile computer, and I am really missing simple ways to read /
modify /sync the calendar and tasks and contacts !
Why not propose a cofundos project to help developper improve pimlico (and
its sync tool) and PISI ?

I hope many will answer and propose their vision / tips / softwares

PS : I tried gpe-calendar, wich seemed great, but it does not handle big
calendars witouht crashing (it becomes slower and slower and then you can do
nothing more


2009/4/10 Robin Paulson 

> 2009/4/9 kimaidou :
> > There is the great project pimlico which provides "dates" = calendar and
> > "tasks".
> > http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html
> >
> > These 2 apps are great because :
> > * they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to
> > sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data
> > * you can install dates and tasks on your desktop
> > * they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly
>
> weren't they re-packaged as dates and something else, and supplied by
> openmok as the originals et of applications? we already have them in
> the om repositories. but there's no sync, or way of getting data from
> the web
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Re: Intone (0.24) Elementary based mplayer frontend

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thanks very much

2009/4/9 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>  A basic wiki page is available here  now.
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Re: Intone (0.24) Elementary based mplayer frontend

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Hi

Could you please give the link the the mplayer version to use ?
There are a lot of different builds, with glamo, ppt, etc. I am completely
lost :D
Do you have a wiki page where you give installation and usage instructions
as mplayer config file, playlist backup, etc. ?

thanks in advance

2009/4/9 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>  Sorted out the error on exit. Here's the latest version
> intone_0.24_arm.ipk
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

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Hi all

There is the great project pimlico which provides "dates" = calendar and
"tasks".
http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html

These 2 apps are great because :
* they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to
sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data
* you can install dates and tasks on your desktop
* they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly

But
* I cannot use them on my SHR because they are not in the repository. I
tried the workaroung described here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico#SHR  , but it does not always work.
One time I broke my installation (Perhaps I did not get rid of the Angrom
repo before doing an opkg update)
--> Please test and report
* There is at the moment no tool for syncing 2 ways. One you can do is copy
the calendar.ics files (in ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics )
from the desktop to the freerunner, and back, but it is not real synchro
* The tool Pisi : http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html could be a good way
to sync, but It does not support ics files yet
* the project Pimlico "is about" to developp a synchronisation tool based on
opensync, but I do not know when it will be out :
http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html

Anyway, I tried a lot of different calendar applications on debian based or
SHR (dates, gpe-calendar, osmo, calcurse, etc.), and dates is the one I
prefer.

2009/4/9 c_c 

>
> Hi,
>
> try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other
> backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap
>
> Thanks - will try those.
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

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Hi Richard

I just run opkg update && opkg upgrade, which installed the new qwo
keyboard.

I tested it. My feedback :
* you changed the yellow "shapes". Could you tell us why ? By the way, they
seem to be drawn with the mouse (not regular). Is it art ? (joking, light
tone)
* I can only write numbers with this version. the move from the center to
one zone and back to the center do not work anymore (as more complex ones).
Instead theses moves write numbers. Am I the only one with this bug ?

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/7 Richard Kralovic 

> Hello,
>
> > When patch will be more flexible, I will add it to SHR (patch for
> > compositing with Xglamo is already in SHR for some time)
>
> Ok, so it should be a bit more flexible now. A new version (see updated
> http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~Openmoko/qwo<http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7EOpenmoko/qwo>)
> does not break the
> builtin keyboard any more. Basicaly illume with this patch distinguish
> between applications with name "Keyboard" and "TransparentKeyboard", the
> latter one is handled differently.
>
> In default configuration, this patch should have no effect. You need a
> newly patched qwo to use it, though.
>
> Greets
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Re: Call Recorder application.

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Hi Tom
Thanks again for this. My idea would be : ask the developper of each dialer
to integrate a button "record" using you code.

2009/4/7 Tom 

> Hi.
>
> My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app (
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all
> distros.
> I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a
> proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...).
> Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without
> the other side's confirmation in many places around the world.
>
> Enjoy,
> Tom.
>
> p.s
> please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches.
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

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Hi

Thanks again ! I managed to install it. for this, I had to remove imlib2 and
then reinstall your qwo package !:

opkg remove imlib2 -recursive
opkg remove qwo (if not removed by the precedent line)
opkg install
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk

And BIM, a great transparent keyboard !!

Big question : Have you proposed to the SHR guys to add this functionnality
by default on the next testing release ?

Thanks anyway
I will try to write a wiki page on this, if you don't mind

2009/4/6 Richard Kralovic 

> Hello,
>
> > I got nothing
>
> So it looks like the qwo can not be configured because of dependency
> problems with imlib2. Which version of imlib2 do you use? Maybe you
> could try to remove imlib2 (with -force-depends) and install it again
> from the repository on meru? Or maybe you can try the shr-unstable feed
> (i.e. modify your /etc/opkg/meru.conf to use shr-unstable, opkg update,
> and opkg install qwo)?
>
>Richard
>
> >
> >
> > Or you can just reinstall qwo (I have recompiled it now to be sure
> > that the version is correct).
> >
> >
> > --> I tried and could not (the -force-depends did not help)
> >
> > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install -force-depends
> > http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk
> > /~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
> > Downloading
> >
> http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
> > Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
> > PREFER.  Using latest.
> > Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
> > PREFER.  Using latest.
> > Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
> > PREFER.  Using latest.
> > Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
> > PREFER.  Using latest.
> > Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
> > Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
> > Downloading
> >
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
> > Collected errors:
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >  * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
> > /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
> > But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
> >
> >
> > If you want to test if the transparency works at all, you can try
> > opkg upgrade
> > opkg install transset
> > transset
> > and click any window - it should be transparent afterwards.
> >
> >
> > --> it worked well !
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your patience :D
> >
> >
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

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2009/4/6 Richard Kralovic 

> > Then I restarted, and lead the xcom script. It runs ok (no errors).
> > But when I "open" the keyboard, it is not transparent, and the circles
> > from "u..." clockwise or the way back just change the size. Have I
> > really installed "your" qwo package ? How can I check please
>
> Hmmm... you can e.g. check if /usr/bin/qwo contains string
> NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY (run
> strings /usr/bin/qwo | grep NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY
> ).


--> i tried the command:
strings /usr/bin/qwo | grep NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY
I got nothing


> Or you can just reinstall qwo (I have recompiled it now to be sure
> that the version is correct).


--> I tried and could not (the -force-depends did not help)

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install -force-depends
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk
/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Downloading
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
Collected errors:
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2


If you want to test if the transparency works at all, you can try
> opkg upgrade
> opkg install transset
> transset
> and click any window - it should be transparent afterwards.
>

--> it worked well !


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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

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Hi again

I tried it . Here is the installation "log":

opkg install xserver-kdrive-glamo xcompmgr qwo e-wm -force-depends
Package xserver-kdrive-glamo
(1:1.3.0.0+gitr9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r3.1) installed in
root is up to date.
Package xcompmgr (1.1.4-r0) installed in root is up to date.
Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_armv4t.ipk
Multiple replacers for e-wm-sysactions, using first one
(e-wm-sysactions-shr)
Multiple replacers for e-wm-sysactions, using first one
(e-wm-sysactions-shr)
Installing e-wm-menu (0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/all/e-wm-menu_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_all.ipk
Configuring e-wm
update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe
Configuring e-wm-menu
Collected errors:
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for e-wm:
 *  e-wm-utils *

Then I restarted, and lead the xcom script. It runs ok (no errors). But
when I "open" the keyboard, it is not transparent, and the circles from
"u..." clockwise or the way back just change the size. Have I really
installed "your" qwo package ? How can I check please

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Re: [SHR] latest unstabl;e WSOD!

[kimaidou]

ah, ok ! w, bad news

2009/4/5 Tony Berth 

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM, kimaidou  wrote:
>
>> Sorry not to know, but what is WSOD please ?
>> Thx
>>
>> 2009/4/5 Tony Berth 
>>
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> WSOD is back! Using the latest SHR unstable and after selecting
>>> 'suspend', WSOD shows up!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>
> White Screen Of Death!
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
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Re: [SHR] latest unstabl;e WSOD!

[kimaidou]

Sorry not to know, but what is WSOD please ?
Thx

2009/4/5 Tony Berth 

> Dear Group,
>
> WSOD is back! Using the latest SHR unstable and after selecting 'suspend',
> WSOD shows up!
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[kimaidou]

Hi

for album cover, the best way  is to look for a file called cover.png or
folder .png (or jpgs) and display it.

Thanks for this 1st release

2009/4/5 Carsten Haitzler 

> On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:59:35 -0700 (PDT) c_c  said:
>
> where's the source... luke? :)
>
> > Hi,
> >   Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally  - here's the
> alpha
> > release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in
> C.
> > Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your
> > playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. All you need to
> do is
> > download the attached ipk and install it. Intone depends on sqlite3 and
> > libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone upgraded to a level
> where
> > the elementary test application shows you a demo of sliders and genlists,
> > Intone should run on your phone. The recommended way to organise music is
> to
> > put all the files in a folder (lets say Music), with sub folders named
> after
> > artists (say Music ->Eagles) and with sub sub folders holding albums
> (that
> > becomes Music->Eagles->Hell Freezes Over->*.mp3). That way, Intone can
> > correctly organise your music collection into albums. It automatically
> > creates a default playlist containing all songs and individual playlists
> for
> > each album. I have added features to manage playlists and albums - but
> there
> > is always scope for improvement. Intone uses a sqlite database as a
> backend
> > for the playlists and albums. That should, hopefully, give flexibility in
> > adding more features later. Things that don't work as of now :-
> >
> > 1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little
> > while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music
> collection
> > for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button
> remains
> > pressed too)
> > 2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any
> files -
> > but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask
> for
> > confirmation.
> > 3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas?
> > 4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce
> CPU
> > or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time.
> > 5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing
> this
> > other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome.
> > 6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art
> and
> > Lyrics.
> >
> >   I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard
> > handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or
> to
> > go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions?
> >
> >   Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish
> in
> > time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in
> the
> > future.
> >
> >   Feedback Required
> > 1. Bug reports.
> > 2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever
> > 3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :-
> > a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right
> now
> > each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get
> only
> > about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text
> > line - 2 text line? b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case
> the
> > pager works - but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up
> > though. c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them
> -
> > but can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being?
> >
> > Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums.
> Any
> > other types I need to add?
> >
> > I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon.
> > All feedback welcome. Thanks.
> > intone_0.20_arm.ipk
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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

[kimaidou]

Hi

Thanks a lot for this !
I will report bugs if I see any.

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/3 Onen 

> Hello,
>
> ok, thanks for the explanations.
>
> Here you go:
> http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html
>
> Let me know if you see errors, possible improvements, etc...
>
> Onen
>
> kimaidou wrote:
> > Hi
> > About the advantages of opkg.org <http://opkg.org>
> > * a software dedicated website, so that I can easily know the new and
> > updated softs with rss feeds (I don't have to filter the new entries in
> > the openmoko wiki and get lost among the amount of information)
> > * a small description for each software (you can do this on a wiki page,
> > I know), and each soft has the same description page template
> > * at the moment, there is a small number of distro (SHR and OM are the
> > most used), but this does not say that it will stay forever, so it could
> > be hard to ask the developper of each new platform to integrate it on
> > the repos
> > * a lot of visitors
> > * you do not have to store the ipk on opkg. A link or description to
> > your repo is OK . So you can do both : put a description on opkg, and
> > put the package in the distro feeds
> >
> >   I believe a portal containing a updated list of all softwares is great
> > for the users who are not always connected to the mailing lists and
> > wikis. For example, I saw the Hackable:A developpers have released a
> > great rss reader application (
> > https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/FeedReader ) . It could be used by
> > users using another debian based distribution (fyp or other), but there
> > is no way for them to know. If this app was in opkg, everyone would know
> > (I know, this is not a good examplen, as opkg is only for ipk package
> > and not deb, but you understand the meaning :D )
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kimaidou
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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

[kimaidou]

One question : is it possible to set a recurring alarm, eg each week day at
7:00 ? It would be a great feature
2 question : is it possible to increase the light as the sound to simulate a
down ?

Thanks anyway, great soft !

2009/4/4 Joerg Reisenweber 

> Am Sa  28. März 2009 schrieb Łukasz Pankowski:
> > Hello
> >
> > I am the author of Finger friendly alarms [1].  Which I developed for
> > Om 2008.12 up to version 0.2.
> >
> > I am happy to announce version 0.2.1 of ffalarms which adds support
> > for SHR (tested on SHR testing) -- for this I ported atd to work on
> > top of FSO Framework Time API (called atd-over-fso available from
> > ffalarms download page [2]).  Version 0.2 also fixes Daylight Saving
> > Time problem and adds several minor improvements, see [3] for
> > installation instructions and detailed changes and [2] for downloads.
> >
> > Please report any problems or possible improvements (those may take
> > long time to come :)).
> >
> > [1] http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org/
> > [2] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260
> > [3] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=488
>
> Hey great work! :)
> Have you considered to port cron as well as atd? I know it's a little bit
> more
> demanding task, as we might want to modify crontab semantics to distinguish
> between jobs that wake the phone and those who are handled the
> "traditional"
> way. Also FSO might want to see a dbus interface to cron for *setting* new
> alarms (if they make up their mind to move this functionality from the
> designated PIMD to cron where it belongs to IMHO)
>
> What's with batch(1) btw?
>
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

[kimaidou]

Hi

thanks for you reply. I would need some more help before running the
installation process. I will write a wiki page on openmoko.org when
succeeded.
My questions inside your text :

2009/4/3 Richard Kralovic 

> > I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing
> > the transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
> > I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !
>
> Well, not much of progress. Some time ago, I set up an ipk feed for
> shr-unstable that I compiled myself, with all the patched stuff:
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable
>
> There are also feeds for shr testing
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr


I will use this since I run SHR testing

>
>
> and FSO milestone 5 (which is what I am currently using, so it's
> probably in a best shape):
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/fso-ms5
>

I think SHR testing uses FSO5, so I have nothing to install, right ?

>
> So, basically it should just work if you add this to your opkg feeds:
>
> src/gz meru-all http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/all
> src/gz 
> meru-armv4t
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t
> src/gzmeru-om-gta02
> http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02


Are these lines command lines ? What should I copy / paste to my terminal to
add the correct feeds ?

After this, I will run opkg update

>
>
> Then you can just follow the instructions at
> http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/index.html
> and install all packages just by opkg install.


Is this correct (or do I need to add some more command lines ?):

#installing xserver-kdrive-glamo & xcompmgr
opkg install
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r3_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/xcompmgr_1.1.4-r0_armv4t.ipk

#modifiy the file */etc/X11/Xserver
nano **/etc/X11/Xserver
And add *ARGS="$ARGS +extension Composite"

#creating a file to launch xcompmgr and load it
echo "xcompmgr &" > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start
chmod +x /etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start

#install qwo (+ imlib2 + libconfig) & e-wm
opkg install
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/496/imlib2_1.4.1_armv4t.ipk
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/497/libconfig_1.3.1_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38544-r3_armv4t.ipk

This is all I understoof reading your email and the webpage. Can you please
comment / modify it ?

thanks !


>
> But beware, the patch for illume breaks the default keyboard (since it
> does not set the width of it and does not resize the application area).
> So be ready to install the old version of e-wm if you do not like
> transparent qwo. I didn't find time to make a nicer patch on e-wm yet
> (it is on my todolist, but quite deep, so patches are welcome)...
>
> Greets
>Richard
>
> >
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Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

[kimaidou]

Hi

There are a lot of small usb convertissers :
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TCSYES

I use them with my Keyboard and usb stick, and it workds well

Could someone give some link to working 3G usb dongles ?

Kimaidou

2009/4/3 Sander 

> Justyn Butler wrote (ao):
> > 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra :
> > > I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that
> > > gets less and less Free as new devices come up :)
> >
> > Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to be
> > Openmoko's main phone for a long time. No one is going to stop anyone
> > buying a non-3G Openmoko phone.
> >
> > What this is suggesting, I suppose, is a 3G derivative if there was
> > serious demand (or should I say, concrete demand in the form of a
> > large order. I personally demand it quite seriously!).
> > While it is a shame that the 3G part would be closed, it would clearly
> > be a legal necessity. It would be that or no 3G version at all.
>
> What about a FR without 3G but with a 'normal' size USB2.0 port in which
> you can plug a 3G dongle?
>
> This has several advantages:
>
> o FR would be more free
> o FR would be less expensive
> o only one expensive heavy duty 3G contract for both your FR and your
> laptop
> o upgrading of 3G without the need for upgrading the FR
>
> FR would still have GPRS in this scenario.
>
> The USB port would be on the edge of the FR where we find the AUX button
> now. This would make the dongle point more or less upwards in both
> landscape and portrait mode.
>
> Related to this I'm looking for a converter between the small USB port
> on the FR and a 3G USB dongle (or a USB keyboard). I've searched but not
> found any. Any tips?
>
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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

[kimaidou]

Hi
About the advantages of opkg.org
* a software dedicated website, so that I can easily know the new and
updated softs with rss feeds (I don't have to filter the new entries in the
openmoko wiki and get lost among the amount of information)
* a small description for each software (you can do this on a wiki page, I
know), and each soft has the same description page template
* at the moment, there is a small number of distro (SHR and OM are the most
used), but this does not say that it will stay forever, so it could be hard
to ask the developper of each new platform to integrate it on the repos
* a lot of visitors
* you do not have to store the ipk on opkg. A link or description to your
repo is OK . So you can do both : put a description on opkg, and put the
package in the distro feeds

  I believe a portal containing a updated list of all softwares is great for
the users who are not always connected to the mailing lists and wikis. For
example, I saw the Hackable:A developpers have released a great rss reader
application ( https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/FeedReader ) . It could
be used by users using another debian based distribution (fyp or other), but
there is no way for them to know. If this app was in opkg, everyone would
know (I know, this is not a good examplen, as opkg is only for ipk package
and not deb, but you understand the meaning :D )

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/2 Onen 

> Hi,
>
> if you have comments and/or suggestions about this release or future
> evolution feel free to contact me!
>
> Well so far what I have tried is to get the package directly into the
> feeds. This is the case for OM:
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/openbmap-logger_0.2.0-r1_armv4t.ipk
>
> I am talking to SHR guys to get it in their repository too.
>
> But if opkg.org brings something more, I will gladly do this. Thus,
> would you explain me what creating a page on opkg.org would bring more?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Onen
>
> kimaidou wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Thanks a lot for this new version. I would like to know if you could
> > create a new page in opkg.org <http://opkg.org> for easily follow,
> > install and upgrade it !
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Kimaidou
> >
> > 2009/3/30 Onen http://onen.om>@free.fr <http://free.fr>>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > the new version of the logger is out. This is a major step: you can
> now
> > do the complete process (log, upload, delete processed logs)
> > graphically! No need to edit any file.
> >
> > WHAT'S NEW SINCE 0.1?
> >
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

[kimaidou]

This is great news indeed. Humm...sorry for this, but could you please
reexplain the different steps to install the qwo transparent keyboard on my
SHR ? I am an end user, and it is a bit hard to understand for me. The best
would be to provide an ipk package if possible.

Thanks a lot !

2009/4/2 Johny Tenfinger 

> SHR has patch for Xglamo about Composite extension included, so you
> musn't take care about that. Only install what you want ;)
>
> 2009/4/2, kimaidou :
> > Hi lists,
> >
> > I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the
> > transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
> > I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !
> >
> > Thanks for any news
> >
> > Kimaidou
> >
> > 2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic 
> >
> >> > ... so it's working in 2008.12 - I can supply my patched build of
> >> > illume.ipk if anyone wants it - the only problem being the qtopia
> >>
> >> Great :-). If you wish, send it to me and I can add it to my webpage...
> >>
> >> > "Options" and "Back" buttons etc attached to the display bottom always
> >> > show on top of...
> >>
> >> I know next to nothing about illume internals, but I'd try to change the
> >> parameter of e_border_layer_set in illume.c from 100 to something
> higher.
> >>
> >> > Now gotta figure out how to prevent that, or bring qwo even further
> >> > forward...
> >>
> >> The illume patches are really just nasty hacks, I'd love to have some
> >> neat patch on illume that automatically checks the X11 atoms of the
> >> keyboard and adjusts its behaviour according to that. With that, we
> >> might be able to persuade the SHR guys (or even Raster) to accept it.
> >> But I do not have much time for that right now :-(.
> >>
> >> Greets
> >>Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Rich
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> 
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

[kimaidou]

Hi lists,

I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the
transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !

Thanks for any news

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic 

> > ... so it's working in 2008.12 - I can supply my patched build of
> > illume.ipk if anyone wants it - the only problem being the qtopia
>
> Great :-). If you wish, send it to me and I can add it to my webpage...
>
> > "Options" and "Back" buttons etc attached to the display bottom always
> > show on top of...
>
> I know next to nothing about illume internals, but I'd try to change the
> parameter of e_border_layer_set in illume.c from 100 to something higher.
>
> > Now gotta figure out how to prevent that, or bring qwo even further
> > forward...
>
> The illume patches are really just nasty hacks, I'd love to have some
> neat patch on illume that automatically checks the X11 atoms of the
> keyboard and adjusts its behaviour according to that. With that, we
> might be able to persuade the SHR guys (or even Raster) to accept it.
> But I do not have much time for that right now :-(.
>
> Greets
>Richard
>
>
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

[kimaidou]

Hi

Thanks a lot for this new version. I would like to know if you could create
a new page in opkg.org for easily follow, install and upgrade it !

Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/3/30 Onen 

> Hello,
>
> the new version of the logger is out. This is a major step: you can now
> do the complete process (log, upload, delete processed logs)
> graphically! No need to edit any file.
>
> WHAT'S NEW SINCE 0.1?
> * Now displays GSM data at startup. No need to wait for network
>   update.
> * Before upload, login/password graphical interface added.
> * After upload, asks about deleting all processed log files.
> * Requests CPU ressource to prevent phone from going to suspend (this
> depends on the configuration of the phone...).
> * Do not log if a call is ongoing. The reasons are:
>  - when in a call org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus()
>returns a lower signal strength.
>  - org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.GetNeighbourCellInformation()
>returns garbage when in a call.
> * Software id and version added in generated logs
>
> Another major point is the "beta" support of neighbour cells logging.
> Following comments made on this list (thanks Yorick, Olivier and Helge
> and sorry if I forget others), I have changed my mind and the code is
> ready in this release. But deactivated. The reasons are:
>  - we need to clarify the meaning of some fields
>  - we need to clarify if there is no risk of mixing cells and
>MCC/MNC at the borders.
> The idea will be to keep track if a logged cell was "serving", or
> "neighbour". This will let us experiment with ways of building coverage
> areas, and specify algorithms.
>
> Thanks Stefan, the application is already in the feeds:
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/openbmap-logger_0.2.0-r1_armv4t.ipk
> => opkg install/upgrade openbmap-logger
>
> Ipk, tar, git can be found at:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=218065&package_id=310952
> http://myposition.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=myposition
>
> Following is a part of the README. You will find a summary of the
> project, and the manual with some details about the configuration file
> if you want total control of your application.
>
> Onen
>
>
> SUMMARY:
> OpenBmap is a free and open map of wireless communicating objects
> (e.g. cellular antenna, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth). It provides tools to
> mutualize data, create and access this map.
> The purpose of this software is to log GSM data, together with
> GPS coordinate. This data are sent to the website (www.openbmap.org),
> in order to build a free database. In order to keep a high quality
> of data, we store GPS quality, speed, GSM signal strength, etc...
> Possible use of this database:
> * get your location based on the current GSM cell you are connected to.
> (GPS needs extra power to function, GSM is always on. Less precise
> than GPS, but enough for a lot of usages. Instant location, GPS
> needs time to get a fix.)
> * speed up GPS first time to fix by providing the location based
> on GSM data
> * geolocate your photos when taken
> * get a map of GSM coverage
> * get a map of 2, 2.5, 3G coverage (not yet implemented)
> * ...
>
> What you should expect:
> * The complete process is done through graphical interface.
> * Requests CPU ressource to prevent phone from going to suspend (this
> depends on the configuration of the phone...).
> * generation of logs (no log during a call)
> * Graphical window to enter login/password before upload (possibility
> to cancel upload).
> * upload of logs
> * Graphical window proposing to delete all logs already processed.
>
> MANUAL:
> Interface is straightforward.
>
> Note: The GPS is started as soon as the application is launched.
> And it keeps running if the application is logging or not. This
> is to prevent losing the GPS position if you pause your logging.
> You have to exit the application in order to stop the GPS.
>
> * A button to start generating logs. Values will be displayed when
> valid. Logs are stored under HOME/.openBmap/Logs by default.
>
> * A button to stop generating logs.
>
> * A button to upload.
> This pops a window up, which displays the current login/password.
> Please modify it before pressing 'ok' button if needed. You can
> cancel upload by pressing 'cancel'.
>
> If you press 'ok', this will block the interface until every log
> has been uploaded. This means that if you do not have Internet
> connection up and running, the GUI will be frozen until timeout of
> the upload part.
>
> After successful upload, the logs are moved to
> HOME/.openBmap/Processed_logs by default.
>

Re: Solar charger

[kimaidou]

Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ?

2009/3/30 Bastian Muck 

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge
> in suspend.
>
> Greetungs Bastian
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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

[kimaidou]

Hi all

I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to
organize the applications icons : a "home" screen with only the most used
applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list
containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the
filtered icons.

Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ?

Kimaidou

2009/3/28 Fernando Martins 

> Martino wrote:
> > Thanks to evry body..
> > @Fernando:
> > For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category
> > and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve
> > using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D
> >
> A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in
> illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed
> interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop
> icons from there into the toolbar.
>
> Regards,
> Fernando
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Voicenote - If someone wants to keep it alive...

[kimaidou]

Hi Rask

Thanks for your comment. I will take it into account if I release a new
version. But this has a low probability to happen

I would like to tell the community I won't have time to go further on this
small project. So:
* I won't participate in the contest for the best voice recorder tool.
* I won't maintain it

So if someone, or a group of people, wants to improve it / participate to
the contest / merge the project with another, etc., this would be good :
Feel free to download the sources :
http://kimaidou.kilu.de/openmoko/voicenote/voicenote_0.4_source.tar.gz
and modifify the wiki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote

cheers
Kimaidou
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Updated zenity package ?

[kimaidou]

Hi list

I need some help about zenity. I use it for my small application "voicenote"
(1), and for now I told people to use this package:
opkg install
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
wich is too old : I get some errors when installing voicenote under last SHR
testing:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/a
rmv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk alsa-utils-aplay
http://www.opkg.org/packages/
voicenote_0.4_arm.ipk
Downloading
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/voicenote_0.4_arm.ipk
Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root...
Package alsa-utils-aplay (1.0.15-r1) installed in root is up to date.
Installing voicenote (0.4) to root...
Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root...
Configuring voicenote
Configuring zenity
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity:
 *  libgnomecanvas-2-0 *  libgnomecanvas-2-0 (>= 2.20.0) *
gtk+-fastscaling (>= 2.10.14) *  libnotify (>= 0.4.4) *

Does someone knows where I can find a newer package for zenity ?
Can someone build it please ?
Is it just a SHR problem, or does this error also occur on Om distributions
?

Thanks in advance

Kimaidou
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

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Normallu on last SHR testing, the gpsd is automatically started for every
application using it. It is so with tangogps for example.

2009/3/16 Joseph Reeves 

> Great news :)
>
> SHR users just have to remember to start gpsd if you want to see where
> you are - that's what /usr/bin/gvsig does on OM2008.x distributions,
> but that doesn't seem to be working for you SHR people :(
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> 2009/3/16 kimaidou :
> > Hi all
> >
> > Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
> > email :
> > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
> > /usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
> > es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card
> >
> > I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
> > solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !
> >
> > Kimaidou
> >
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Re: [SHR] Howto configure GPRS

[kimaidou]

Hi pander,

First, you need to load the ppp modules

echo ppp-generic > /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
update-modules


For me the easiest way to connect and disconnect to my GPRS provider (
mmsbouygtel.com) is to load theses scripts using dbus commands:

To connect (you must chmod +x the script, and replace mygprs_address by
yours, e.g mmsbouygtel.com for me; the x x at the end must be replaced by
login password if you need them.)

#!/bin/sh
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext mygprs_address x x

To disconnect, just use (after chmod +x )

#!/bin/sh
#gprsoff
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.DeactivateContext



2009/3/16 Pander 

> Hi all,
>
> Many information is available on GPRS but the things I've tested scripts
> from the Wiki were probably outdated, or I used them wrongly because I
> was/am in the woods on debugging or tracing GPRS software. So, ...
>
> How can one configure GPRS on SHR (latest testing). I'm willing to make
> good and tested documentation for the Wiki if someone can tell me how to
> get started and what to do exactly plus describing how to test each step.
>
> Also, what will happen if you have network via usb, wifi and GPRS at the
> same time? Will SHR be able to cope with all that or do you as a user
> should avoid such a situation for now? In which order will the network
> connection be selected?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pander
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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

[kimaidou]

Hi all

Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
email :
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
/usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card

I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !

Kimaidou
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Re: Siglaunchd , dbus and scan the content of incomming SMS

[kimaidou]

Hi all

I resend my last email about siglaunchd. Could anyone please help me ? The
best would be to contact the author directly (Tom Haconen), but I have not
found his email.
Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 kimaidou 

> Hi lists,
>
> I am using *siglaunchd* tool ( 1) . It is a great tool. I already set up
> some actions (2) wich improve a lot my openmoko usability (nb: the code is
> in italic in this email)
>
> I need your help to trigger the following actions :
>
> * Do an action when receiving a sms containing e.G "mypasswd". For now, I
> tried
> *#on incomming SMS
> "DISPLAY=:0.0 echo "test" >
> /home/root/Scripts/message.txt"=org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS;org.freesmartphone.ogsmd;/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device;IncomingMessage;
> *
>
> --> It does not react (no file created) + it lacks content reading
>
> * Store each phonenumber for each incomming call (just for testing). For
> now, I can do
> *#on incomming call from 00
> "DISPLAY=:0.0 echo $(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S) >
> /home/root/Scripts/call.txt"=org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call;org.freesmartphone.ogsmd;/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device;CallStatus;arg[1]=incoming
> *
>
> --> pbm here : I do not know how to put the phone number in my "echo"
> command.
>
> * Change profile from "default" to "silent" when the phone is for example
> face down on a table
> --> anyway to do this with dbus ?
>
> Well, I think this capacity of dbus is a huge space to conquer (for me). We
> are only limited by our imagination :D  Openmoko is great !
> Anyway, thanks in advance
>
> Kimaidou
>
> (1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Siglaunchd
>
> (2) Here is my /home/root/.siglaunchd.conf  (Caution, I am running SHR,
> last testing )
>
> *#AUX moyen --> dialer
> "DISPLAY=:0.0
> /usr/bin/openmoko-dialer"=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=AUX,arg[1]=released,arg[2]>0,
> arg[2]<2
>
> #AUX long --> terminal
> "DISPLAY=:0.0
> /usr/bin/vala-terminal"=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=AUX,arg[1]=released,arg[2]>1
>
> #POWER moyen --> shortom
> "DISPLAY=:0.0 PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/shortom
> shortom-bin"=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=POWER,
> arg[1]=released, arg[2]>0, arg[2]<2
>
> #POWER long --> shr-settings
> "DISPLAY=:0.0
> /usr/bin/shr-settings"=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=POWER,
> arg[1]=released, arg[2]>1*
>
>
>
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Mokometeo - version 0.2 :D

[kimaidou]

Hi list,

I have just released Mokometeo 0.2, with some improvements and bug fixes:

# added some "print" in the code
# debug the .mokometeo folder ; put the config folder in
/home/root/.mokometeo/ instead of /.mokometeo/
# test if the connection to internet is ok. If not, display question marks
# backup the data each time data is downloaded and displayed. this data is
used on the next mokometeo startup
# added the date and time when the data has been downloaded

See this page for more details :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokometeo

Bye

kimaidou
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies

[kimaidou]

Hi list

I think also it would be easier and much better to create deb packages. I
think the opkg.org website is a very good portal for the dynamism of the
community. Why not:
* modifiy opkg.org so that for each software, we have 2 text boxes on the
right side (where you copy.cut the installation command) : one for ipk, one
for deb.
* add a "Help developper to package" page in this website, with a tar
containing a foobar application : one for ipk (with ipkg-build), one for
debian (I do not know yet what to use :D )

This way everyone can really have the choice of distribution without lacking
of openmoko oriented softwares.

What do you think ?

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors 

> Rask Ingemann Lambertsen  writes:
> >> Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg
> >> repos as deb ones...  maybe with different priority... it may be
> difficult
> >> and risky, but indeed useful!
>
> Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages?
>
> If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can
> create unofficial debian packages of those.
>
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Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call

[kimaidou]

Hi all

I just made up a small script here :

#!/bin/sh
cp /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop
/tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop
sleep 5
cp /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop
/usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop

Is it ok ? If so, how can automatically load it after startup ? For now, I
am loading it with shortom.

Kimaidou

2009/3/13 Cameron Frazier 

> On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:07 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> > Well, that was almost more than I had dared hope for! This begs the
> > question, how best to I set it up to run a script as soon as the GUI
> > is done loading? It would probably be best to put a "sleep 5" or so at
> > the beginning, but I'd rather have it run after E is initialized.
>
> I too agree, having this voodoo incanted shortly after e init would be
> rather handy.
>
> I just tried it, and the delay dropped to only a second or two total, so
> a vast improvement.  I suppose it will get better when the framework
> moves to a compiled language for FSO M6 (IIRC).
>
> Thanks for the info guys,
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Cameron
>
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Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?

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Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help !
Thanks a lot, it works well.

I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on
opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it !

Anyway thanks a lot

Kimaidou

2009/3/13 Joel Newkirk 

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:13 +0100
> kimaidou  wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command
> > /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it
> > is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if
> > possible) NB: I am using this file :
> > http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kimaidou
>
> "--help" gives some hints... ;)  Try "illume-kbd-show -t" (for 'toggle')
>
> j
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Mokometeo - New software

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Hi folks,

I am pleased to introduce you to my new small software. This time I chose to
develop it in python + GTK + glade.
It is called *Mokometeo* and as its name says, it shows the 4 days forecast
from yahoo for a set of preconfigured cities.

You can have more details here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokometeo

and see the opkg.org page if you want:
http://www.opkg.org/package_160.html

Please test it and give some feedbacks if needed

Cheers

Kimaidou
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