Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kosa k...@piradio.org wrote: It doesn't have one, but theree buttons. theree buttons? ... It must be a windows device :) http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vdl19/Pages_Blagues/Images_blagues/Ctr_alt_del.jpg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community-driven redesign / new theme for Paroli
wow! I like the settings button on screen (I don't like more the use of the AUX Button, I think that is not much intuitive). According to me another good thing is possibility to switch to the illume desktop by sliding the time bar from right to left. great work! On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:37 AM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi Hey great! All 'design guidelines' and things like that are great! I'd like you to explain more of what's happening in the screenshots. Tell what is new, why have you done it, what's the thinking behind it etc. I find it more easier to explain using pictures :-) Got a graphic mind I guess. Take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Bab-1.2-3screens.png Any good interface has it's on Rythm Rhyme. On a single screen, your eye will catch the hidden grid and swerve around primary and secondary options in a split second. This works subliminally - you wouldn't even notice, but this is what makes an interface 'feel good'. This is even more true for phones, small screen, use it with one eye and one finger in a busy environment .. and between screens, your memory will recognize changes in that Rythm and Rhyme, too. Yes, a good interface is much like a poem, or a piece of music :-) .. so I was trying to find a grid, a basic layout, that fits all purposes. At the same time, this grid should be numberfriendly, as it has to be programmed in edje. You need a few classes of fonts, not a new font on every page. Same with colors, shades, etc. So that's basicly what this was http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:BAB-List-default-1.0-grid.png .. but it's already outdated :-) Such a grid should include whatever options you might think of in the future - dialogs, extra buttons, etc .. so that's basicly this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:BAB-List-default-1.0.png For example, this big blocker bar (a modal dialog) is not actually used anywhere, but if it *would* be, it should be there (there is a modal dialog in the dial and when sending an sms, btw). Same for the informational bar - a thing that should hide itself once you touch the screen imho - its not used anywhere - but if it would be, it should be right there. And hey, it could say 52 messages, 4 unread, for an instance, couldnt it ? :-) what is new As little as possible :-D But, as I'm sketching and using the phone, a few things are indeed new and needed imho. - The next, back paradigm doesnt really work for me. I want to know *what* next is. back is not always where I came from. And above that, I don't always know where I am (this happens particularly in the settings, currently). So I've changed back and next to a virtual path and an action. There could be more actions, actually (eg in sms|read, you can delete and reply a message). If you click on an action, that should become part of your path in the next screen. For example, if you are in Setting | Wifi, the main action is Scan. In the next screen, the path should be Settings | Wifi | Scan. Action and Paths are CamelCased. - the panel (the top bar) should be removed in all screens if we are in windowed mode imho, because you now get two rows of similar icons. Ergo, there can be nothing essential in Paroli's panel that's not in the Illume panel. And hence, you need a different button to close a paroli app (like msgs) when you are not in full screen - because the clock should not be here. In fact, it should look like a close button: if you tap around Illume, you will find the chooser is still hanging around and not responding until you close the other screen. So that's what the funny circle is in the 3rd image at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:BAB-List-default-1.0.png , a 'close button'. I also think the main screen, the launcher, should indicate it's waiting for the other app to quit. It would not harm if you are in fullscreen (since you won't see it) and it would be very beneficial in windowed mode. I have a screenshot of that, here .. - If you look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Bab-1.2-3screens.png you'll see there are more ideas - and I have still more on paper. Most of them are optional. But I understand, doing something like what I sketched in the Launcher requires changing the whole way it works (in Python), not just changing edje files :-| The most important thing is, I think, I differentiate between primary and secondary options: The screen is divided in lines. Each line can only have one primary, big, white, option. If you click it, the background color of the whole line quickly hilites before the screen changes. A line can have several secondary (small, grey, lowercased) options. If you click it, only the font color quickly switches before the screen changes. I think this differentation is usefull, as it gives a user an idea about the default
Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]
A makeup mirror? :D On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.dewrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:57:51 Yorick Moko wrote: could you give a link to that video again please? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI at 18:37 greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Paroli: correct pronunciation
I read in the FAQ page of paroli project [1] that Paroli is an Esperanto word. how to pronounce Paroli in Esperanto? This site have the answer :) http://traduku.net/parolu/#parole/?l= c [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/faq/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A5 buzzfixed : which alsa state file ?
I think the a7 state On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Everything is in the title : should I keep my A5 files or use the A7 ones ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A5 buzzfixed : which alsa state file ?
look this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues#Poor_Audio_Quality_.28FIXED.29 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:38 PM, tammaro pamdirac palombo pamm...@gmail.com wrote: I think the a7 state On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Everything is in the title : should I keep my A5 files or use the A7 ones ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli introduction video
It's a truly original introduction :) On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:34 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: I love it :), good work!!! 2009/6/6 Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de: Wow, nice video. And sure a lot of work (painting all the papers). Nice idea ;) Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: Dear list, Im toying with the idea, of creating a Paroli introduction video, where I present all the basic phone functionality of paroli. Short of a tutorial, where I can point the newcomers to. I have began to shoot the video, and made about 5 min, where I needed to cut off. The video is not finished, and I will reshoot it, as it is blurry, and shacked the camera a lot. However, I will be not able reshoot it before wednesday or later next week. So Im posting this *work-in-progress* 10% made video to the community hoping that somebody with willing to record the audio will join me, and others will have some feedbacks too. I also hoping, if some of you have done video editing before, and can adjust the background sound, with voice, and finalise the video will step up, and help me. Otherwise I will reshoot the video next week, and put online as-is. I hope it will be less blurry (the lcd is broken in my camera, so cant see anything while filming;-|) What I really like in this video, is how speedy paroli is. There is not much waiting, the video is realtime, was absolutely no editing in it. http://www.vimeo.com/5029019 Feedbacks? Laszlo PS: bear in mind, that this is my first video. Dont be too harsh. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. bye ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
thanks, I'll try it tomorrow On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I've had better luck starting with http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state - it's one of several that I've seen identified as 'the one true statefile'... If you still get buzz, then try dropping 'control.5' (Mono Playback Volume) - to around 85 or 90. That might help - although you might find that people have trouble hearing you. I'm currently using the gsmhandset-a7.state unmodified and seem to get ok results. I've had one report of intermittent buzz during a call, but it wasn't super bad. Warren On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:00:29PM +0200, tammaro pamdirac palombo wrote: I try to use Om2009 but for me is unusable (call audio quality). I like paroli but I must use FR like a phone. I hope that the buzz fix solves this problem. While you don't get it, this alsa state file improves things a bit WRT the recent builds: http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state Just replace the one in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
fso-paroli-image-om- 8% |*** I'm waiting :) On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Awesome Angus Mirko - can't wait to get testing this :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)
an android without the htc? :) On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the web site. any clue any one? 2009/5/11 Jeffrey Ratcliffe jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com: -- Forwarded message -- From: Aki Niemi aki.ni...@nokia.com Date: 2009/5/11 Subject: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono) To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org Cc: Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project (http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source telephony solution. oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS) applications. oFono.org is licensed under GPLv2, and it includes a high-level D-Bus API for use by telephony applications of any license. oFono.org also includes a low-level plug-in API for integrating with Open Source as well as third party telephony stacks, cellular modems and storage back-ends. The plug-in API functionality is modeled on public standards, in particular 3GPP TS 27.007 AT command set for User Equipment (UE). Source code is available on http://ofono.org/downloads and a high-level architecture diagram is available on http://ofono.org/documentation. To join the mailing list, go to http://lists.ofono.org/listinfo/ofono. Nokia and Intel will jointly maintain the oFono project. We'd like to invite all developers to join the oFono.org effort and community. Marcel Holtmann holtm...@linux.intel.com, Intel Open Source Technology Center Aki Niemi aki.ni...@nokia.com, Nokia Devices RD, Maemo Software -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
