[2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
tnx! I got an 8gb uSD in anticipation of all this. i also have a 16, but i'm loathe to put it in. not quite as shiny as ubuntu is ubuntu doing anything formal in this space? certainly,i'd prefer to live on debian in the absence of ubuntu. from what i read fso is debian based. i'm thrashing on which to install next. on debian i've seen conflicting install methods. evidently there are flashable versions, as well as versions that do what I think of as a net install. i'd like to try both the flash method seems the shortest least painful approach. i'd also like to get my uboot problems resolved. what uboot does one use for debian? On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
cann you set what the default boot device is? if so,how? On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:33:02 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: tnx! Not a problem. I got an 8gb uSD in anticipation of all this. i also have a 16, but i'm loathe to put it in. I found I needed to change the environment variables in the NAND bootloader for my 8GB SD card to set the Glamo clock to a specific speed otherwise it wouldn't boot off the card. :-( It's an ugly hack and if I can ever remember what I did to get it to work I'll document it! :-( not quite as shiny as ubuntu is ubuntu doing anything formal in this space? Not that I'm aware off, I suspect this is a bit smaller than where they'd want to play. certainly,i'd prefer to live on debian in the absence of ubuntu. from what i read fso is debian based. IIRC FSO is a Framework that runs on Linux, and the current FSO images are based on OpenEmbedded which uses opkg and not dpkg/APT. i'm thrashing on which to install next. on debian i've seen conflicting install methods. The H1 install is literally repartition your SD into an 8MB VFAT and the rest as ext2 and then unpack the vfat tarball onto the VFAT and the ext2 onto the ext2. I did that by putting the SD card into my laptop and doing it on there. :-) evidently there are flashable versions, as well as versions that do what I think of as a net install. i'd like to try both the flash method seems the shortest least painful approach. The flash is pretty small so you wouldn't get much of a system onto it. There is an alpha version of Hackable-1 for flash, but I'd suggest sticking to the SD card for that and use the flash for something that works as a phone like Qt Extended. i'd also like to get my uboot problems resolved. what uboot does one use for debian? You can probably stick to the version you're using already. cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 6:34:22 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: cann you set what the default boot device is? if so,how? Through the uboot menu that you get by pressing AUX *after* you have pressed (and are still holding) the power button. For yourself that's probably a little awkward. :-( cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
