Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
Oh. So that's why qtopia always loses that data. I thought it was related to reflashing and wondered why, because it has it's db on the sd card... *g* Marcel Am Tuesday 28 October 2008 00:53:59 schrieb W.Kenworthy: > because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ... > > BillK > > On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote: > > Why do you all turn off suspend? > > I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess > > if ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
On Tuesday 28 Oct 2008 1:43:09 pm Richy wrote: > qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you > never turn on wifi My experience matches this and it gives me hope that it is indeed possible to make the FR battery last longer. Typically, with about 10-15 mins of talking per day, I loose about one bar for 24 hrs! Sot that's about 3 to 4 days of battery life! But then sometimes (just sometimes) that it does not suspend automatically and battery drains rapidly. There is no way to manually suspend the FR (without the CLI) and reboot is the only way to set that straight. If you turn on wifi once, it appears that it does not really turn off ever until a reboot and again battery drains rapidly. I find qtextended very usable as a daily phone; now only if it would default to headset instead of speaker phone when answering calls... :( -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
I haven't missed any calls yet. However, when i suspend manually (pressing the power button) and want to wake the phone up manually, it turns on for half a second and than off again. I always need to press the power button again. (Also, it doesn't seem to make much difference) qtextended an one mwester-kernel had standby-time of several days, if you never turn on wifi Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
because when the phone suspends you lose calls/sms messages ... BillK On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 17:36 +0100, Marcel wrote: > Why do you all turn off suspend? > I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess if ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
> Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar. > > > So the final result was 4.0 hours from full charge to 0 bars and then > plugged in back in at 5 hrs... Did you leave the display on constantly? I have played around with stuff like that, and making sure the display dims/blanks after not too long saves a lot of battery power. Just curious... Paul -- Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out. -James Bryant Conant http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar. > So the final result was 4.0 hours from full charge to 0 bars and then plugged in back in at 5 hrs... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
suspend quality (was: Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release)
Why do you all turn off suspend? I can clearly understand (and I do this also) that autosuspend is a mess if you're just playin round in ssh and the phone suspends all the time. But it basically _works_ if you want it to, doesn't it? I'm asking because I hear this everywhere and suspend works perfectly for me since quite some time, just wondering... -Marcel Am Monday 27 October 2008 14:58:39 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: > I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and > rebooted. It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the > battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in > (without usage). > > I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise > measurement. So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Wow, so 3.5 hours into the battery test and its down to 1 bar. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and > rebooted. It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the > battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in > (without usage). > > I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise > measurement. So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full. > > > -- Geoff Ruscoe Sigma Visions Computer Consulting C++ is like jamming a helicopter inside a Miata and expecting some sort of improvement. — Drew Olbrich C++: an octopus made by nailing extra legs to a dog -- unknown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
I did the mwester and then booted and untarred the mwester modules and rebooted. It has been stable (with suspend turned off), although the battery life on mine seems to be just a few hours between being plugged in (without usage). I'm going to monitor it today to see if I can get a more precise measurement. So far its been about 1 hr and its only down 1 bar from full. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
David Samblas wrote: > Marc, those it need to update the modules too? Well, if you use them yes. I've not made a package with them since I generally don't use extra modules :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Hi Geeoff, How does this relate to mwebster's kernel http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html Which one is more stable, latest and greatest? Thanks, Pander David Samblas wrote: > Marc, those it need to update the modules too? > El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" > escribió: >> Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: >>> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see >>> what kernel I should use with it. >>> >>> Is there a best kernel to go with it? >> If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches >> (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo >> speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... >> >> Bye! >> >> [1] >> http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin >> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Marc, those it need to update the modules too? El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" escribió: > Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: > > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see > > what kernel I should use with it. > > > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches > (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo > speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... > > Bye! > > [1] > http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin > -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see > what kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
For info, the site at ref[1] looks a shocker in firefox! Almost unreadable fonts and dark colours on black are not a good choice ... or look! BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:38 +0100, Alex Oberhauser wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What about this one: > > > http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable > > > > > > > I like the way you think! That would be great. > > > > Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make > > phone calls and use gps, etc? > > > > So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a > > system to get the right modules for this kernel? > > I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it > works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than > with older kernels). > > Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors > or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it. > > mfg > > Alex > > [1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What about this one: > > http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable > > > > I like the way you think! That would be great. > > Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make > phone calls and use gps, etc? > > So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a > system to get the right modules for this kernel? I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than with older kernels). Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it. mfg Alex [1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Hi all, I am willing to put in effort in testing, bug fixing, developing and impoving OM on FreeRunner. This would be a bit easier if it is clear what exact combination of images is currently the "latest stable" (read usable) in terms of this community. I understand this is not an easy question ;) Only if a certain group of people is using the exact same set, it is possible to succesfully cooperate. I know I am a newbe here but if someone would get me up to speed, that would be much obliged. Thanks, Pander On Sat, October 25, 2008 15:54, Marcel wrote: > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander: >> On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: >> > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: >> >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see >> >> what >> >> kernel I should use with it. >> >> >> >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? >> >> I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an >> alternative. >> >> >> Thanks >> > >> > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. >> >> Do you mean this one? >> http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html > > Yes. > >> How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? > > I don't know. Simply using it... > >> What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you >> also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that >> come >> with FDOM anyway? > > Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's > missing > modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels > need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as > simple as > $ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin > :) > > -Marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about this one: > http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable > I like the way you think! That would be great. Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make phone calls and use gps, etc? So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a system to get the right modules for this kernel? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On 25.10.2008 at 16:13:27, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks What about this one: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:13:27 -0400 "Geoff Ruscoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks > Well , any kernel that works with om2008.9 :) ideally , om2008.9 kernel . -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:54:52 schrieb Pander: > On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: > > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: > >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see > >> what > >> kernel I should use with it. > >> > >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an > alternative. > > >> Thanks > > > > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. > > Do you mean this one? > http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html Yes. > How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? I don't know. Simply using it... > What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you > also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come > with FDOM anyway? Since I don't see the kernel output on booting I didn't see if it's missing modules on first boot, but I copied the modules also because most kernels need their own special module set (from my experience). Installation: as simple as $ dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin :) -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, October 25, 2008 16:26, Marcel wrote: > Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: >> So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see >> what >> kernel I should use with it. >> >> Is there a best kernel to go with it? I'm using Om2008.8-update with latest FDOM but am also looking at an alternative. >> >> Thanks > > I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. Do you mean this one? http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html How does this relate to Om2008.8-update? What is the exact installation procedure you use (think neotool) Do you also need to install the minimal modules or other stuff or does that come with FDOM anyway? Pander > > -marcel > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Am Saturday 25 October 2008 16:13:27 schrieb Geoff Ruscoe: > So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what > kernel I should use with it. > > Is there a best kernel to go with it? > > Thanks I'm using mwester's one. Seems to work well. -marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
