[FSO] First steps

2008-11-19 Thread julien cubizolles
I just installed FSO and I'm quite happy with it : it seems the most
reponsive distribution I have yet used. I still have some questions :

Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I
read some discussions inconclusive about it, is there some advances ?

Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What can
I use ? I

GPS : do I need to click the map icon in zhone to powerup the antenna
and use it with tangogps ? What are the three upper buttons supposed to
do in the Zone gps application ? The first one displays
latitude/longitude... (right now it displays N/A but I'm inside...)
The second and third one open some window with obviously resolution and
colors issues.

Power Management settings: The settings from the wrench menu in illume
don't seem to have any effect : the phone dims + blanks + locks after a
minute or so even I set the blank time to off and doesn't suspend even
though the suspend time after blank is 1s.


Suspend : according to the wiki, you need to press the power button for
2 s to suspend the phone. It doesn't work for me, just powers it off
after 7-8 s.

Sound : What's the best way to adjust the sound level ? I guess there's
still no GUI for that. I've tried playing with several .state files
during my first tries with other distributions but things change fast on
this topic : what is the control to adjust ?

Several applications from the Home menu (terminal, Htop for instance)
won't start.

I'm running :
fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2
uImage-2.6.24+r8
+gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.bin
modules-2.6.24+r8
+gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.tgz



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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-19 Thread arne anka
> Suspend : according to the wiki, you need to press the power button for
> 2 s to suspend the phone. It doesn't work for me, just powers it off
> after 7-8 s.

in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore.

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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-19 Thread julien cubizolles
Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 18:06 +0100, arne anka a écrit :
> in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore.

Thanks, it works, I'm feeling stupid now because I can't wake it. I
tried pressing POW shortly, longer, in combination with AUX, to the
rythm of the arkanoid theme...




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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-19 Thread VirtuAlex


julien cubizolles wrote:
> 
> Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 18:06 +0100, arne anka a écrit :
>> in ms4 you need only to press shortly, no hold anymore.
> 
> Thanks, it works, I'm feeling stupid now because I can't wake it. I
> tried pressing POW shortly, longer, in combination with AUX, to the
> rythm of the arkanoid theme...
> 
I had similar problem. I pushed the button and nothing happened, then I
tried to push it again, but before I did, it actually started suspending
(got into text mode, some lines started pass by). So the second press
obviously interrupted normal suspend routine and put FR into unusable state.
Only removing battery helps. I can reproduce it. But if I press power button
once and wait for it to suspend properly, next short press wakes it up
reliably.
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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-20 Thread julien cubizolles
Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 13:39 -0800, VirtuAlex a écrit :
> I had similar problem. I pushed the button and nothing happened, then I
> tried to push it again, but before I did, it actually started suspending
> (got into text mode, some lines started pass by). So the second press
> obviously interrupted normal suspend routine and put FR into unusable state.
> Only removing battery helps. I can reproduce it. But if I press power button
> once and wait for it to suspend properly, next short press wakes it up
> reliably.

I changed my kernel to mwester's and I can resume with POW now. But
illume's settings names seem to be misleading :

Blank time is blank time
susped time is lock time ...



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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:10:00 +0100, julien cubizolles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just installed FSO and I'm quite happy with it : it seems the most
> reponsive distribution I have yet used. I still have some questions :
> 
> Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I
> read some discussions inconclusive about it, is there some advances ?
> 
> Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What can
> I use ? I

I don't have anything for you on these.


> GPS : do I need to click the map icon in zhone to powerup the antenna
> and use it with tangogps ? What are the three upper buttons supposed to
> do in the Zone gps application ? The first one displays
> latitude/longitude... (right now it displays N/A but I'm inside...)
> The second and third one open some window with obviously resolution and
> colors issues.

You can just fire up Tango and frameworkd will activate the GPS for it. 
The other two tabs in zhone (from memory - I'm running SHR right now) are:
an itemized list of satellites it's seeing, and a polar graph on which it
plots satellites.  (so at the start they're blank and a dartboard,
respectively)
 

> Power Management settings: The settings from the wrench menu in illume
> don't seem to have any effect : the phone dims + blanks + locks after a
> minute or so even I set the blank time to off and doesn't suspend even
> though the suspend time after blank is 1s.

I think frameworkd handles power management, not illume.
 

> Suspend : according to the wiki, you need to press the power button for
> 2 s to suspend the phone. It doesn't work for me, just powers it off
> after 7-8 s.
> 
> Sound : What's the best way to adjust the sound level ? I guess there's
> still no GUI for that. I've tried playing with several .state files
> during my first tries with other distributions but things change fast on
> this topic : what is the control to adjust ?
> 
> Several applications from the Home menu (terminal, Htop for instance)
> won't start.

You can try changing /usr/share/applications/htop.desktop to exec
"openmoko-terminal2 htop", or install xterm and exec "xterm -e htop". (I've
done the latter)  What else isn't starting?


> I'm running :
> fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2

Just a note - at different times, the file above may in fact be different
images.  Today, it's the image from November 14th, for instance, but if a
new image were posted tomorrow it'd probably be a copy of tomorrow's image.
So try to note the date (if you used wget to download it probably preserved
the date) or pick out the newest of the 'long-named' images for download.
(It could also be from unstable vis testing, named the same)

The files below are both from October 5th, you might want the newest ones,
from November 7th.  (this might fix your suspend)

j


> uImage-2.6.24+r8
> +gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.bin
> modules-2.6.24+r8
> +gitr968c41d0c32099d78927849a71e2ef3143cc05e7-r8-om-gta02.tgz
> 



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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-22 Thread julien cubizolles
Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 15:57 -0500, Joel Newkirk a écrit :

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.

> > Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What can
> > I use ? I
> 
> I don't have anything for you on these.

It can wait. Just out of curiosity, is there some work being done on
this front ?

> > GPS : 

> You can just fire up Tango and frameworkd will activate the GPS for it. 
> The other two tabs in zhone (from memory - I'm running SHR right now) are:
> an itemized list of satellites it's seeing, and a polar graph on which it
> plots satellites.  (so at the start they're blank and a dartboard,
> respectively)

I took the time to test it and I could indeed get a fix from tangoGPS.
Didn't get back to the Zhone gps display to check it. I will soon.

> > Power Management settings: 
> I think frameworkd handles power management, not illume.

I finally figured it out.


> > Several applications from the Home menu (terminal, Htop for instance)
> > won't start.
> 
> You can try changing /usr/share/applications/htop.desktop to exec
> "openmoko-terminal2 htop", or install xterm and exec "xterm -e htop". (I've
> done the latter)  What else isn't starting?

openmoko-agpsui, Terminal, numptyphysics. I'll check through ssh what is
the reason.

Julien.



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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-22 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 22 November 2008, julien cubizolles wrote:
> Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 15:57 -0500, Joel Newkirk a écrit :
>
> Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
>
> > > Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What can
> > > I use ? I
> >
> > I don't have anything for you on these.
>
> It can wait. Just out of curiosity, is there some work being done on
> this front ?

A PIM interface is on the roadmap for FSO, but I don't know if work has 
started yet. It is likely to use an existing PIM dbus API, possibly with 
extensions if required. Evolution Data Server and Akonadi spring to mind as 
contenders. Telepathy may have a place too, though its VoIP capabilities 
overlap somewhat with the call control interface we already have.

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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:44:49 +, Al Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 22 November 2008, julien cubizolles wrote:
>> Le mercredi 19 novembre 2008 à 15:57 -0500, Joel Newkirk a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
>>
>> > > Calendar : openmoko-calendar2 isn't available in repositories. What
> can
>> > > I use ? I
>> >
>> > I don't have anything for you on these.
>>
>> It can wait. Just out of curiosity, is there some work being done on
>> this front ?
> 
> A PIM interface is on the roadmap for FSO, but I don't know if work has 
> started yet. It is likely to use an existing PIM dbus API, possibly with 
> extensions if required. Evolution Data Server and Akonadi spring to mind
> as 
> contenders. Telepathy may have a place too, though its VoIP capabilities 
> overlap somewhat with the call control interface we already have.

I think Telepathy is a must-have, personally.

j



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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-24 Thread Carl Lobo
Hi All,

>> Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I
>> read some discussions inconclusive about it, is there some advances ?
>>
>
> I don't have anything for you on these.
>

Well I got a little impatient and did a quick and dirty patch for
zhone to read the contacts from the qtopia file instead of the sim
(actually i tried doing both but it didn't work). You need to copy
your qtopia_db.sqlite from /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/ to
/home/root (or change the path in the diff).
Hope it helps.

Regards,
Carl


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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-24 Thread Carl Lobo
i checked again and it works (you get both sim and address book
contacts but you can only add/edit/delete sim contacts). uncomment the
line that says combined = res + result.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Carl Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>>> Addressbook : Is there a way to import a former qtopia sqlite file ? I
>>> read some discussions inconclusive about it, is there some advances ?
>>>
>>
>> I don't have anything for you on these.
>>
>
> Well I got a little impatient and did a quick and dirty patch for
> zhone to read the contacts from the qtopia file instead of the sim
> (actually i tried doing both but it didn't work). You need to copy
> your qtopia_db.sqlite from /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/ to
> /home/root (or change the path in the diff).
> Hope it helps.
>
> Regards,
> Carl
>

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Re: [FSO] First steps

2008-11-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 23 November 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:44:49 +, Al Johnson
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 November 2008, julien cubizolles wrote:
--snip--
> >> It can wait. Just out of curiosity, is there some work being done on
> >> this front ?
> >
> > A PIM interface is on the roadmap for FSO, but I don't know if work has
> > started yet. It is likely to use an existing PIM dbus API, possibly with
> > extensions if required. Evolution Data Server and Akonadi spring to mind
> > as
> > contenders. Telepathy may have a place too, though its VoIP capabilities
> > overlap somewhat with the call control interface we already have.
>
> I think Telepathy is a must-have, personally.

Having looked at it a bit more closely I'm inclined to agree.


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