Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Joachim Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fwd, please answer to community@ > 2) Remove 'device-owners'. Please keep device-owners and community. The way I see it, the community list is a thriving discussion place for the whole community, which is good. But device-owners is a place for more specific questions, and it has lower traffic which is good for getting answers quickly. Just my opinion. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
> Please keep device-owners and community. shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, now the freerunner is in the world? and who of the newlyweds joined device-owners? i for one, didn't -- because i don't want to split my time and attention between multiple groups, basically addressing the same audience. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please keep device-owners and community. > > shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be congruent, > now the freerunner is in the world? Possibly. My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the community mailinglist tend to evolve into a lot of 1) wishes for things that aren't in the devices today 2) requests / demands that things should be done differently which is good for future, but not so ood for specific question about current devices and current software. Aside from that, groups of peaple are never congruent - in any given group you will find as many opinions as there are people. :) > and who of the newlyweds joined device-owners? i for one, didn't -- > because i don't want to split my time and attention between multiple > groups, basically addressing the same audience. Well, it depends on what information you want. If you skip device-owners, you miss a lot of specific information about the devices and software, and the testing that owners do. I find that useful enough that I invest the little time extra to read that mailinglist as well. YMMV, of course. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
> My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the community > mailinglist tend to evolve into a lot of > 1) wishes for things that aren't in the devices today > 2) requests / demands that things should be done differently > which is good for future, but not so ood for specific question about > current devices and current software. point taken. but that might abate once all interested got their freerunner. > Aside from that, groups of peaple are never congruent - in any given > group you will find as many opinions as there are people. :) of course, but i was speaking of the topic the groups are dedicated to. > Well, it depends on what information you want. If you skip > device-owners, you miss a lot of specific information about the > devices and software, and the testing that owners do. > I find that useful enough that I invest the little time extra to read > that mailinglist as well. seems, i have to look at least at the archives ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
On 8 Jul 2008, at 10:56, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> Please keep device-owners and community. >> >> shouldn't community members and device owners more or less be >> congruent, >> now the freerunner is in the world? > > Possibly. > My observation is that any (ok, most) threads on the community > mailinglist tend to evolve into a lot of > 1) wishes for things that aren't in the devices today > 2) requests / demands that things should be done differently > > which is good for future, but not so ood for specific question about > current devices and current software. > ... > Well, it depends on what information you want. If you skip > device-owners, you miss a lot of specific information about the > devices and software, and the testing that owners do. > I find that useful enough that I invest the little time extra to read > that mailinglist as well. I have messages from all Openmoko mailing lists filtered into a single mailbox, so I hadn't noticed the distinction between community & device-owners. Reading your comments I think this might be a really good distinction to keep and I'm inclined to set up separate mail folders for the Openmoko lists. I think the result would be a concentration of more interesting posts. Perhaps regulars could become more militant about replying "this should be on -community" and "replying to the correct list, -device- owners"? Sean - you say in your post of 8 July 2008 14:27:41 BST that you're inclined to remove 'device-owners'. Can I ask you to consider a while longer, please? We're talking about circa 100 messages per day, so it might be best not to be too hasty. Maybe you could simply combine 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into a single 'devel' list for the present and revisit the community & device-owners decision after some more discussion, perhaps waiting a few weeks? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
On 7/8/08 Stroller wrote: > Sean - you say in your post of 8 July 2008 14:27:41 BST that you're > inclined to remove 'device-owners'. Can I ask you to consider a while > > longer, please? We're talking about circa 100 messages per day, so it > > might be best not to be too hasty. Maybe you could simply combine > 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into a single 'devel' list for > the present and revisit the community & device-owners decision after > some more discussion, perhaps waiting a few weeks? Sure. I will ask Roh/Gismo to keep 'device-owners' open for a few more weeks. I actually woke up with new thoughts about this list, too. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]
I would second the idea of keeping the community lists and device-owner list separate. I follow the openmoko project as best I can but I cannot afford to purchase the phone yet so I don't subscribe to the owner's list, although I occasionally read the archives. -Shawn On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/8/08 Stroller wrote: > > Sean - you say in your post of 8 July 2008 14:27:41 BST that you're > > inclined to remove 'device-owners'. Can I ask you to consider a while > > > > longer, please? We're talking about circa 100 messages per day, so it > > > > might be best not to be too hasty. Maybe you could simply combine > > 'openmoko-devel' and 'distro-devel' into a single 'devel' list for > > the present and revisit the community & device-owners decision after > > some more discussion, perhaps waiting a few weeks? > > Sure. I will ask Roh/Gismo to keep 'device-owners' open for a few more > weeks. I actually woke up with new thoughts about this list, too. > > -Sean > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
