Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-18 Thread Michael Smith
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:38:27 +0100
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are some interesting apps on your repos, but it would be nice to have
 some screenshot to understand better what is about and how it looks loke
 before installing them...

Hi Thanks for the feedback.

I have updated the mokolog web page with screen shots and usage information.

http://glitch.tl/mokolog.html

I have added a new screen shot for deskcat and tagged the latest version as 1.0.
I now consider this application as safe to use.

http://glitch.tl/deskcat.html

The mkrpn applicaton has screenshots so I haven't changed its page but let me 
know if you think I can clarify anything.

http://glitch.tl/mkrpn.html

In general I encourage people to only install packages which I link to from 
this category on my weblog:

http://glitch.tl/Openmoko.html

I put links there to packages when I think they are ready for people to try. A 
major release (1.0, 2.0, etc) should be considered mature. Smaller point 
releases (0.1, 1.1, etc) should be treated with caution.

Regards,
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Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-18 Thread Olivier Migeot
Just an idea, about DeskCat : since adding more categories - in order
to remove desktop clutter - will _actually_ add new desktop clutter in
the mean of category icons, wouldn't it be possible/better/stupid to
only use one icon and cycle through categories? You could change that
icon's title - or even pixmap - regarding the currently displayed
category.

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Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-18 Thread Michael Smith
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:01:39 +0100
Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just an idea, about DeskCat : since adding more categories - in order
 to remove desktop clutter - will _actually_ add new desktop clutter in
 the mean of category icons, wouldn't it be possible/better/stupid to
 only use one icon and cycle through categories? You could change that
 icon's title - or even pixmap - regarding the currently displayed
 category.

Right now you can use the DeskCat application to put the category launchers 
into categories, so you can configure it that way if you want. You just have to 
work around a small bug: when you create a category its launcher doesn't appear 
in deskcat until after deskcat is restarted. This is because the application 
list is loaded at startup.

Another way might be to have a single DeskCat application which lets you choose 
the category to display on the desktop. This way will be slower because of the 
need to open a GUI application but not as slow as flipping between two 
categories. I might try to implement this in the future.

Regards,
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Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-18 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 09:16:36PM +1100, Michael Smith wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:01:39 +0100
 Olivier Migeot larry...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just an idea, about DeskCat : since adding more categories - in order
  to remove desktop clutter - will _actually_ add new desktop clutter in
  the mean of category icons, wouldn't it be possible/better/stupid to
  only use one icon and cycle through categories? You could change that
  icon's title - or even pixmap - regarding the currently displayed
  category.
 
 Right now you can use the DeskCat application to put the category launchers 
 into categories, so you can configure it that way if you want. You just have 
 to work around a small bug: when you create a category its launcher doesn't 
 appear in deskcat until after deskcat is restarted. This is because the 
 application list is loaded at startup.
 
 Another way might be to have a single DeskCat application which lets you 
 choose the category to display on the desktop. This way will be slower 
 because of the need to open a GUI application but not as slow as flipping 
 between two categories. I might try to implement this in the future.

Haven't tried it yet, but from what I'm reading, does it just move the
.desktop file to subdir and then if I reinstall some package (and
original .desktop file is restored) then I'll see both icons?

Please also note that illume2 homescreen is said to be much more easier
to customize/improve and shr-launcher/DeskCat features would be nice to 
have integrated there as SHR will move to illume2 as soon as it gets as
usable as illume1 is now (hopefully soon as every new illume2 version is
getting closer fast).

Regards,

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Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr 
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Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-18 Thread Michael Smith
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:25:36 +0100
Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Haven't tried it yet, but from what I'm reading, does it just move the
 .desktop file to subdir and then if I reinstall some package (and
 original .desktop file is restored) then I'll see both icons?

It renames the .desktop for the application to .desktop.ignore which is ignored 
by the illume desktop. If the select the All icon then all desktop files are 
restored. You should probably do this before you upgrade any applications. The 
worst thing which could happen is if a desktop file changes in an upgrade and 
is hidden during an upgrade the new version would be overwritten by the old one 
when the desktop file is restored.

 Please also note that illume2 homescreen is said to be much more easier
 to customize/improve and shr-launcher/DeskCat features would be nice to 
 have integrated there as SHR will move to illume2 as soon as it gets as
 usable as illume1 is now (hopefully soon as every new illume2 version is
 getting closer fast).

Thats worth noting, thanks.
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Re: [SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-17 Thread Davide Scaini
There are some interesting apps on your repos, but it would be nice to have
some screenshot to understand better what is about and how it looks loke
before installing them...
anyway thanks for your efforts :)
d

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Michael Smith openm...@netapps.com.auwrote:

 The number of applications on the SHR Illume desktop was getting to be a
 problem for me so I wrote a program which will rename batches of .desktop
 files to a different extension and hide them. The blog post is here:

 http://glitch.tl/deskcat.html

 Screenshot: http://artifacts.glitch.tl/DESKCAT-0.2-screenshot.png
 Package: http://opkg.glitch.tl/deskcat_0.3_arm.ipk
 Source:
 http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/deskcat/

 Important: read the whole blog post before installing the package. This is
 somewhat experimental.

 Basically you define categories in the application and assign a category to
 any application. The application creates desktop launchers which will rename
 any managed .desktop files in /usr/share/applications to a different
 extention if they are not in the desired category.

 One problem with this application is that it does create quite a few
 .desktop files of its own and they do clutter the place up. The category
 icons could be put into categories of their own but that would make
 navigating slower.

 Please reply with any comments, complaints and feature requests. One
 thought I had after getting the application to work on the phone is that I
 could reduce the number of icons by using the GUI application to switch
 categories. Doing it that way would be slower and require more finger
 presses, but it would be tidier.
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[SHR] Application for desktop categories

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Smith
The number of applications on the SHR Illume desktop was getting to be a 
problem for me so I wrote a program which will rename batches of .desktop files 
to a different extension and hide them. The blog post is here:

http://glitch.tl/deskcat.html

Screenshot: http://artifacts.glitch.tl/DESKCAT-0.2-screenshot.png
Package: http://opkg.glitch.tl/deskcat_0.3_arm.ipk
Source: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/deskcat/

Important: read the whole blog post before installing the package. This is 
somewhat experimental.

Basically you define categories in the application and assign a category to any 
application. The application creates desktop launchers which will rename any 
managed .desktop files in /usr/share/applications to a different extention if 
they are not in the desired category.

One problem with this application is that it does create quite a few .desktop 
files of its own and they do clutter the place up. The category icons could be 
put into categories of their own but that would make navigating slower.

Please reply with any comments, complaints and feature requests. One thought I 
had after getting the application to work on the phone is that I could reduce 
the number of icons by using the GUI application to switch categories. Doing it 
that way would be slower and require more finger presses, but it would be 
tidier.
-- 
Michael Smith
+61 416 062 898
http://glitch.tl

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