Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Martin Jansa wrote: > angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're, (...) > http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus > sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to > "advanced" options, > but there is no option for angstrom-next.. Ha, but there IS an option for A780 and SmartQ :-) By the way, thanks for "on demand" toolchain creation! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
> And fresh new SHR toolchain: > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/ And fresh it is! Long live SSH, allowing me to run it on a remote desktop (should have thought of that before :-) ) Downloaded the files and now extracting to /usr/local/shr/* Am I correct in understanding that I can follow the openmoko wiki with those toolchains? (shr--20100820-x86_64-linux-armv4t-linux-gnueabi-toolchain + extras) Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:37:32PM +0200, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 04:09:05AM -0700, W. B. Kranendonk wrote: > > > > > > > it is not the right way to do it but you may try > > > downloading the old > > > OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target > > > upgrade) with > > > the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the > > > SHR world > > > until you have your new laptop it could work maybe. > > > > Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it > > a try for starters ;-) > > > > Boudewijn > > You can also try newer toolchain from Angstrom > http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ > > angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're, but wasn't > published for armv4t yet > http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/next/ > > or try to generate own sdk image with narciuss > http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus > sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to "advanced" options, > but there is no option for angstrom-next.. > > Regards, And fresh new SHR toolchain: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/sdk/ -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 04:09:05AM -0700, W. B. Kranendonk wrote: > > > > it is not the right way to do it but you may try > > downloading the old > > OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target > > upgrade) with > > the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the > > SHR world > > until you have your new laptop it could work maybe. > > Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it a > try for starters ;-) > > Boudewijn You can also try newer toolchain from Angstrom http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ angstrom-next is using almost the same toolchain as we're, but wasn't published for armv4t yet http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/next/ or try to generate own sdk image with narciuss http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus sdk toolchain options are shown only after switching to "advanced" options, but there is no option for angstrom-next.. Regards, -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
> it is not the right way to do it but you may try > downloading the old > OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target > upgrade) with > the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the > SHR world > until you have your new laptop it could work maybe. Praying is not my strongest, let alone most used, talent, but I'll give it a try for starters ;-) Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
On 8/20/10, W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
> --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>> (...) 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more
>> powerfull machine then
>> your laptop would be good.
> Hahah... The harddisk is 20GB.. I lend my desktop (with about 3GHz single
> core AMD a bit more up to date) to my sister... Perhaps she likes a new
> laptop ;-)
>
>> If you don't have another PC you can come to the
>> #openmoko-devel IRC channel,
>> perhaps we can find a solution for you.
> Budget allowing, there's a new laptop coming later this year ("yahoo!").
> Time allowing I'll join the channel, thanks!
>
Hi,
it is not the right way to do it but you may try downloading the old
OM toolchain, replace the opkg sources (then opkg-target upgrade) with
the shr ones and pray :). I think for a first start in the SHR world
until you have your new laptop it could work maybe.
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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> (...) 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more
> powerfull machine then
> your laptop would be good.
Hahah... The harddisk is 20GB.. I lend my desktop (with about 3GHz single core
AMD a bit more up to date) to my sister... Perhaps she likes a new laptop ;-)
> If you don't have another PC you can come to the
> #openmoko-devel IRC channel,
> perhaps we can find a solution for you.
Budget allowing, there's a new laptop coming later this year ("yahoo!"). Time
allowing I'll join the channel, thanks!
Boudewijn
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Re: [SHR] toolchain (again)
Am Freitag 20 August 2010, 01:04:55 schrieb W. B. Kranendonk: > Hi List, > > I'd like to start trying to contribute to the Openmoko-ecosystem in a more > meaningful manner than lurking the mailinglists. > > I also like to see if I can add my own twist to my phone (running SHR-U). I > imagined combining those two wishes by getting a toolchain running and see > what happens to the code I put through it. Hi, there is a problem with a toolchain for SHR-U: in SHR-unstable eglibc and gcc changes really often. If one of those changes the whole toolchain needs to be recompiled, because every lib needs to be build with the current eglibc and gcc version to run properly. In this case you would have to download a new toolchain about every week, because of that there is no toolchain for SHR-U. So to build an app for SHR-u you have to set up a bitbake enviroment like discribt in [1] and then create a recipe for your app like discribet in [2]. But this is a long process, it needs about 10 hours on my PC (2,8GHz core2duo, 8Gb ram) and downloads about 15Gb of data, so a more powerfull machine then your laptop would be good. If you don't have another PC you can come to the #openmoko-devel IRC channel, perhaps we can find a solution for you. Greets Thomas [1] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR [2] http://shr- project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] toolchain (again)
Hi List, I'd like to start trying to contribute to the Openmoko-ecosystem in a more meaningful manner than lurking the mailinglists. I also like to see if I can add my own twist to my phone (running SHR-U). I imagined combining those two wishes by getting a toolchain running and see what happens to the code I put through it. Now I found that the wiki [1] is quite specific about telling me what my needs are. I do not want to do "(b) System Integration and customizing a distribution", so I probably want (a), just the single application. The wiki shows how to set up a toolchain for 2008.8, or that is where the example link for libraries points to. There's an unstable branch [2] as well, but I susbpect it's not SHR-U. There was a request on the community list earlier [3], referring to the shr-user list and a ticket [4] on the SHR-track. The ticket does not (yet) give me insight in how to get a (minimal) toolchain for building my own programs for SHR, but it reminded me to have a look on the SHR site. On the SHR wiki [5], the curve seems opposite to what it is on the Openmoko wiki: getting started with a single application requires more setup than building the distribution. I am a little confused and actually, close to a year ago I intended to take the plunge as well but got stuck following the SHR-guide. Since my laptop (PIII 700MHz, 256Meg) is not the fastest beast (actually almost gets beaten by the "modern" architecture found in my Freerunner), I remember some steps took overnight to complete. After this lengthy introduction, can it be confirmed that the instructions on the SHR wiki have recently worked, and is there a reasonable chance that I will get through it "just following the pictures"? So far, just browsing, the instructions seem quite solid (thumbs up! :-) ) Oh, I'm running (L)Ubuntu 10.04, with half of the instructions on the Openmoko wiki completed. Thanks in advance! Boudewijn [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Introduction [2] http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02/ [3] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td4115109 [4] http://shr-project.org/trac/ticket/764 [5] http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Getting%20started%20developing%20SHR ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
