[TI Calypso] I know it's NDA'ed but ...
I wonder what will happen to the TI Calypso stuff inside the Freerunner? Now that OM stopped business who will take care of the GSM modem part and fix issues if they are found? As a now full community supported mobile hardware platform wouldn't it be possible to contact TI and release the Calpyso SDK under some community license? I mean the GSM modem is an old one and why can't it be de-NDA'ed by TI? Could someone of the former OM staff try to contact them and explain our situation for this or must we live forever with the current state of the GSM firmware as a black box which would be really sad. As for #1024 there is that hardware fix but we will never know if by chance it could be software fixed (I know that the former OM developers had inspected the calypso firmware, however the more ppl would analyse the code the chances are higher that some fix could be possibly found). Please don't let the calypso stuff be a dead end for us! Opening this part of the device would make the Freerunner even more interesting for developers since it would be (except the glamo *) a truely open phone by then. Cheers, Nek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [TI Calypso] I know it's NDA'ed but ...
Dnia 2009-07-24, pią o godzinie 11:03 +0200, Nekron pisze: I wonder what will happen to the TI Calypso stuff inside the Freerunner? Now that OM stopped business who will take care of the GSM modem part and Subscribe to gta02-c...@lists.openmoko.org There is a lot of talk about this issues there these days. Please don't let the calypso stuff be a dead end for us! Opening this part of the device would make the Freerunner even more interesting for developers since it would be (except the glamo *) a truely open phone by then. I follow gta02-core list just for few days but it looks like calypso is going to be dropped in favour of another solution. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [TI Calypso] I know it's NDA'ed but ...
On Friday 24 July 2009, Nekron wrote: I wonder what will happen to the TI Calypso stuff inside the Freerunner? Now that OM stopped business who will take care of the GSM modem part and fix issues if they are found? As a now full community supported mobile hardware platform wouldn't it be possible to contact TI and release the Calpyso SDK under some community license? I mean the GSM modem is an old one and why can't it be de-NDA'ed by TI? It probably wouldn't hurt to ask, but don't get your hopes up. TI have little to gain, and a release will cost them at least the time taken to ensure they are allowed to release the information. They may not be allowed to release it, even if they wanted to, for a number of reasons including third party rights holders and regulatory rules. Could someone of the former OM staff try to contact them and explain our situation for this or must we live forever with the current state of the GSM firmware as a black box which would be really sad. As for #1024 there is that hardware fix but we will never know if by chance it could be software fixed (I know that the former OM developers had inspected the calypso firmware, however the more ppl would analyse the code the chances are higher that some fix could be possibly found). A good chunk of the code in that area is a binary blob even to Openmoko, which is one of the reasons the problem was difficult to debug in the first place. You are asking for more access than even Openmoko had. Please don't let the calypso stuff be a dead end for us! Opening this part of the device would make the Freerunner even more interesting for developers since it would be (except the glamo *) a truely open phone by then. I think you stand a better chance of getting the Glamo opened than the Calypso! I assume you would like Atheros to open the WLAN firmware too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [TI Calypso] I know it's NDA'ed but ...
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 17:30 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 24 July 2009, Nekron wrote: I wonder what will happen to the TI Calypso stuff inside the Freerunner? Now that OM stopped business who will take care of the GSM modem part and fix issues if they are found? As a now full community supported mobile hardware platform wouldn't it be possible to contact TI and release the Calpyso SDK under some community license? I mean the GSM modem is an old one and why can't it be de-NDA'ed by TI? It probably wouldn't hurt to ask, but don't get your hopes up. TI have little to gain, and a release will cost them at least the time taken to ensure they are allowed to release the information. They may not be allowed to release it, even if they wanted to, for a number of reasons including third party rights holders and regulatory rules. problem is, GSM network security is maintained by using bogus secret management processes, including not revealing the inner working of GSM chipsets. If you have a ticket for HAR, there will be plenty of GSM hacking there, which you may find interesting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
