Re: [Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

2008-08-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:31 -0400 Yaroslav Halchenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

yes - it's the FDO notification protocol via dbus. there's a module for e (the
notification module) that can handle this. :) this is your generic i am some
process with our without a gui, but i want to notify the user of something
solution.

the gsm one above - though related has the option of just directly doing this
as it itself can do it as it already is part of the same gui... :) just a
question of a few function calls.

no notification module in asu currently. can always be added (likely needs some
love and attention ui-wise to work a bit better on the FR screen like theme
attention and maybe a little code).

 Please pardon my ignorance but since
  one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
  ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( 
 I will elaborate a bit although once again please pardon my ignorance
 since I've never developed such app, no looked into the existing
 implementations, but I see quite a few use cases.
 
 Shouldn't there be a typical MVC-design application which takes
 care about notifications?  Probably by receiving them via dbus
 (C(ontroller) part should take care).
 V(iews) could be different -- from the basic home screen (list of apps
 is imho not a home screen at all) alike in any normal phone or qtopia or
 2007.2, to a short-lived pop-up appearing on a screen for few
 (configured) seconds. Any family of notifications should get
 a life-span (persistent or one-time).
 
 I see quite a few use cases and few kinds of such notifications
 
 Persistent ones -- which are visible until 'confirmed to be seen' by the
 'responsible' app:
 
 1. missed calls
 2. voice mail
 3. new mail
 4. low battery
 5. lost GPS signal
 6. current GPS provider
 7. Birthdays within next week
 ...
 
 Those are cleared out by the corresponding application itself (via
 additional message to the controller)
 
 Spontaneous (visible for a limited pre-configured time only)
 1. battery is fully charged or almost fully drained
 2. someone clicked on smth to know about smth (like in the original
 email)
 3. is 1 mile away from pizzeria
 4. GPS/WiFi/GSM/Accelerometers/Bluetooth was turned off/on
 
 
 M(odel) here consists pretty much of different kinds of notifications
 known, actions to be taken when clicked, optional expiration date, etc
 
 I wonder how it was designed in 2007.2 since it at least looks like it
 was closer to this idea, and it seems that it is one of the 'phone must
 have' features.
 
 On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 
  On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  babbled:
 
  let me take a look. yes - you can do popups. though there is no theme or
  standard popup layout - you can always do your own or recycle an existing
  one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
  ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( what
  is useful here is the code patches to get the nuts and bolts data. good
  work! i need to merge this and the FSO dbus support patches. i'll look at
  yours today and deal with the FSO ones from stefan now that i have
  dictionary lookup/correction support back in illume's keyboard. (though
  need to build an image and test...)
 
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[Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Please pardon my ignorance but since
 one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
 ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( 
I will elaborate a bit although once again please pardon my ignorance
since I've never developed such app, no looked into the existing
implementations, but I see quite a few use cases.

Shouldn't there be a typical MVC-design application which takes
care about notifications?  Probably by receiving them via dbus
(C(ontroller) part should take care).
V(iews) could be different -- from the basic home screen (list of apps
is imho not a home screen at all) alike in any normal phone or qtopia or
2007.2, to a short-lived pop-up appearing on a screen for few
(configured) seconds. Any family of notifications should get
a life-span (persistent or one-time).

I see quite a few use cases and few kinds of such notifications

Persistent ones -- which are visible until 'confirmed to be seen' by the
'responsible' app:

1. missed calls
2. voice mail
3. new mail
4. low battery
5. lost GPS signal
6. current GPS provider
7. Birthdays within next week
...

Those are cleared out by the corresponding application itself (via
additional message to the controller)

Spontaneous (visible for a limited pre-configured time only)
1. battery is fully charged or almost fully drained
2. someone clicked on smth to know about smth (like in the original
email)
3. is 1 mile away from pizzeria
4. GPS/WiFi/GSM/Accelerometers/Bluetooth was turned off/on


M(odel) here consists pretty much of different kinds of notifications
known, actions to be taken when clicked, optional expiration date, etc

I wonder how it was designed in 2007.2 since it at least looks like it
was closer to this idea, and it seems that it is one of the 'phone must
have' features.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

 let me take a look. yes - you can do popups. though there is no theme or
 standard popup layout - you can always do your own or recycle an existing
 one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
 ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( what is
 useful here is the code patches to get the nuts and bolts data. good work! i
 need to merge this and the FSO dbus support patches. i'll look at yours today
 and deal with the FSO ones from stefan now that i have dictionary
 lookup/correction support back in illume's keyboard. (though need to build an
 image and test...)

-- 
  .-.
=--   /v\  =
Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com
Yaroslav Halchenko  /(   )\   ICQ#: 60653192
   Linux User^^-^^[17]



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