[debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-04 Thread joakim
It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
power down.

Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?


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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Which kernel and from when do you use?

This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.

Ciao,
 Rainer

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> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
> power down.
> 
> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
> 
> 

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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-05 Thread joakim
Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>
> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.

Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
with Debian, I think.

>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
>> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
>> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
>> power down.
>> 
>> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-05 Thread Fox Mulder
The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
OM and FSO kernels.

Ciao,
 Rainer


[1]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>>
>> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
>> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
> 
> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
> with Debian, I think.
> 
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
>>> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
>>> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
>>> power down.
>>>
>>> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>>>
>>>

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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread joakim
Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
> To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
> this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
> I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
> boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
> OM and FSO kernels.

I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.

>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>>>
>>> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
>>> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
>> 
>> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
>> with Debian, I think.
>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>>  Rainer
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
 and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
 for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
 power down.

 Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?


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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread Fox Mulder
What do you mean by shut down "unexpectedly" ?

The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the
sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
>> To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
>> this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
>> I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
>> boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
>> OM and FSO kernels.
> 
> I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
> corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.
> 
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 Which kernel and from when do you use?

 This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
 suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
>>> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
>>> with Debian, I think.
>>>
 Ciao,
  Rainer

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
> power down.
>
> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>
>

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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread joakim
Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What do you mean by shut down "unexpectedly" ?
>
> The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the
> sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected.

Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or
whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the
debian part of the sd card is unbootable.

I can then normally rescue it with "testdisk".

I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian.

>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
>>> To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
>>> this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
>>> I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
>>> boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
>>> OM and FSO kernels.
>> 
>> I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
>> corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.
>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>>  Rainer
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>
> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
 Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
 with Debian, I think.

> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
>> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
>> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
>> power down.
>>
>> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>>
>>
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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread Fox Mulder
I don't think that this behaviour is a real software bug because this
situation shouldn't happen at all. So i don't think that there could be
some patch to really fix this.

And for me these situations you describe nearly never exist. The problem
that the FR hangs occured for me only when the memory usage gets to the
limit of the 128MB. But since i use a 64MB swapfile i never experienced
it again. And my FR never loosed power since i got it. So i'm wondering
what things you do to your FR. ;)
I never lost my partition table and i only use debian for quite some
weeks. Anbd i'm happy that the current OM kernel works with
suspend/resume without problems.

Ciao,
 Rainer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> What do you mean by shut down "unexpectedly" ?
>>
>> The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the
>> sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected.
> 
> Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or
> whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the
> debian part of the sd card is unbootable.
> 
> I can then normally rescue it with "testdisk".
> 
> I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian.
> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
 To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
 this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
 I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
 boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
 OM and FSO kernels.
>>> I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
>>> corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.
>>>
 Ciao,
  Rainer


 [1]
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel>>
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>>
>> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
>> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
> with Debian, I think.
>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
>>> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
>>> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected
>>> power down.
>>>
>>> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>>>
>>>

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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread joakim
Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't think that this behaviour is a real software bug because this
> situation shouldn't happen at all. So i don't think that there could be
> some patch to really fix this.
>
> And for me these situations you describe nearly never exist. The problem
> that the FR hangs occured for me only when the memory usage gets to the
> limit of the 128MB. But since i use a 64MB swapfile i never experienced
> it again. And my FR never loosed power since i got it. So i'm wondering
> what things you do to your FR. ;)

Bad things I suppose :)

The swap file sounds like a good idea. Did you put the swap partition on
the internal flash or the sd card? Intuitively it would appear to be
better to have the swap on internal flash, if the main os is on the sd
card.



> I never lost my partition table and i only use debian for quite some
> weeks. Anbd i'm happy that the current OM kernel works with
> suspend/resume without problems.
>
> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> What do you mean by shut down "unexpectedly" ?
>>>
>>> The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the
>>> sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected.
>> 
>> Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or
>> whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the
>> debian part of the sd card is unbootable.
>> 
>> I can then normally rescue it with "testdisk".
>> 
>> I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian.
>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
> To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
> this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
> I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
> boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
> OM and FSO kernels.
 I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
 corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.

> Ciao,
>  Rainer
>
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel>>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Which kernel and from when do you use?
>>>
>>> This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
>>> suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
>> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
>> with Debian, I think.
>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>  Rainer
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted
 and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
 for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after 
 unexpected
 power down.

 Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?


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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-09 Thread Fox Mulder
I put it also on the sd-card. I know that normally that isn't the best
thing, but i don't want to use the internal flash because i want to
reserve it for maybe om2008 or anything i may want to try beneath debian. ;)

I don't "feel" any performace issues with the 64MB swapfile on the
sd-card. More the contrary is the fact. Debian is much smoother because
i don't get all the time to the memory limit when running a few
programs. And the FR or maybe debian itself seems to really dislike it
when the memory consumption gets to the limit.

I just created a swapfile with
"dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/disk/swapfile bs=1024 count=65536"
"mkswap /media/disk/swapfile"
and than add it to the fstab with the following line
"/media/disk/swapfile   swap   swap   defaults   0 0"

Not it works like a charm. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> I don't think that this behaviour is a real software bug because this
>> situation shouldn't happen at all. So i don't think that there could be
>> some patch to really fix this.
>>
>> And for me these situations you describe nearly never exist. The problem
>> that the FR hangs occured for me only when the memory usage gets to the
>> limit of the 128MB. But since i use a 64MB swapfile i never experienced
>> it again. And my FR never loosed power since i got it. So i'm wondering
>> what things you do to your FR. ;)
> 
> Bad things I suppose :)
> 
> The swap file sounds like a good idea. Did you put the swap partition on
> the internal flash or the sd card? Intuitively it would appear to be
> better to have the swap on internal flash, if the main os is on the sd
> card.
> 
> 
> 
>> I never lost my partition table and i only use debian for quite some
>> weeks. Anbd i'm happy that the current OM kernel works with
>> suspend/resume without problems.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 What do you mean by shut down "unexpectedly" ?

 The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the
 sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected.
>>> Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or
>>> whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the
>>> debian part of the sd card is unbootable.
>>>
>>> I can then normally rescue it with "testdisk".
>>>
>>> I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian.
>>>
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug.
>> To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do
>> this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1].
>> I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the
>> boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual
>> OM and FSO kernels.
> I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the
> corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly.
>
>> Ciao,
>>  Rainer
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel>>
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Fox Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 Which kernel and from when do you use?

 This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm
 suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian.
>>> Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped
>>> with Debian, I think.
>>>
 Ciao,
  Rainer

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets 
> corrupted
> and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work
> for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after 
> unexpected
> power down.
>
> Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ?
>
>

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Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?

2008-10-19 Thread Brock
On 2008.10.09.22.36, Fox Mulder wrote:
| I don't "feel" any performace issues with the 64MB swapfile on the
| sd-card. More the contrary is the fact. Debian is much smoother because
| i don't get all the time to the memory limit when running a few
| programs. And the FR or maybe debian itself seems to really dislike it
| when the memory consumption gets to the limit.

I also turned off the ramdisks in /tmp and /var, which decreased memory
consumption fractionally.

--Brock


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