Re: 2 beginner questions

2007-11-05 Thread andy selby
> 1. Is there a place where the latest tested image and rootfs is available
> for download. the wiki links to a number of files and one is not sure which
> image matches the rootfs.

Well blow me down, the tested kernel/rootfs wiki page has been updated
at last, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Phase_1_Software_Testing
with a build from yesterday, scroll down to the bottom and try that.
Otherwise click on the links in the repositories page
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories and then click on 'last
modified' twice to bring the latest added to the top of the page,
although these may not have any feedback about them.

> 2. When I have connected the usb cable to a powered usb port and the neo is
> switched off is it charging (there is no indicator)

The neo is charging when it is off, when my neo is on and connected to
my pc it disconnects my usb modem so I _only_ charge it via usb when
it is off.
By the way, in my bios I have set 'halt' to 'all but keyboard' so my
usb periphs are on even when the pc is off so I can charge the neo
when the pc is off, though it may be only 100ma

> thanks
>
> Rakshat
>
> PS i am going through the wiki but if there is a forum where these questions
> have already been answered please guide me there so i don't mail the entire
> list every time.

There is a forum,I forget where but its low volume, instead type into google
your search term here site:wiki.openmoko.org
to search the wiki using google.
If you want to ask questions about the neo1973 you should post to the
device owners mailing list.

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2 beginner questions

2007-11-05 Thread rakshat hooja
I just got my neo 1973 by mail today and I will try to flash the image and
load rootfs sometime in the evening. Just had a couple of questions as i am
new here.

1. Is there a place where the latest tested image and rootfs is available
for download. the wiki links to a number of files and one is not sure which
image matches the rootfs.
2. When I have connected the usb cable to a powered usb port and the neo is
switched off is it charging (there is no indicator)

thanks

Rakshat

PS i am going through the wiki but if there is a forum where these questions
have already been answered please guide me there so i don't mail the entire
list every time.

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> At the lowest level GPS runs hardware ranges or   time offsets from
> each satellite.
> This does not directly give you a position. Some significant
> spherical trig is necessary to turn this into position.
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> A lot of (AGPS) phones only have that hardware and rely on some system
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> (maybe not even on the phone) to turn that into a location. It makes
> a lot of sense that if you
> have a powerful CPU you don;t need to add another powerful CPU to
> turn this GPS
> base band info into PVT (position velocity and time).
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> The second issue with GPS is that if you are going to take raw data
> and generate PVT then
> you have to do the GPS limitations that keep the system from being a
> ballistic missile guidance
> system IE you cant report position if altitude > 60K ft and
> velocity > 1000 knots or some such.
> So if you plan to sell such hardware in the US then unless it has
> these limits encoded
> in a way that is not trivial to defeat it become a ITAR controlled
> munition.
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> It sounds like the origional GTA01 used a standard phone AGPS that
> does not directly calculate position,
> a great technical solution, but it does not work in real partical US
> political world with the ITAR
> GPS restrictions.
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> for details on what it takes to calculate position from the raw data see:
> http://home-2.worldonline.nl/~samsvl/software.htm
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