Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIM Cards?

[Philipp Aeberli]

Hello

I have the same problem with my SIM card from Sunrise here in Switzerland. Out
of three different cards, I have one that works and two that do not.

Is their any solution yet to this problem?.

Philipp


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Scott Rushforth]

fwiw - I have one of the 3g fireball cards that has yet-to-work:

73000 O
4021

cheers,

-scott



Eric Johnson wrote:

Michael Welter wrote:

Here is a Cingular pay-as-you-go SIM:  73000G3021

Does that SIM work?

It is a Gemalto SIM and to the best of my knowledge is identical to 
the latest cards from Gemalto apart from the rebranding to AT&T.


The new AT&T branded cards should be marked
   71234 G
   3022

Eric

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Jae Stutzman]

Please add your SIM card success or failure info to the tables on this page:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/ATT

Especially if you found an old card that worked!

Thanks

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Pranav Desai]

On 7/31/07, Eric Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can you tell me the numbers on the chip side of the SIM?
> Not the 20 digit ICCID but the 5 digit SKU followed by a letter and then
> the 4 digit Vendor and Version number underneath it.



73000O4021


For example G&D cards say
> 71234 D
> 2202
>
> Eric
>
> Pranav Desai wrote:
> >
> > On 7/29/07, *Andy Poling* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g
> > sim card
> > > (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older
> > cingular
> > > ones do work (they are "64K smart chip").
> >
> >
> >
> > I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much
> > about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is
> > there a way to confirm that its 3G ?
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Eric Johnson]

Michael Welter wrote:

Here is a Cingular pay-as-you-go SIM:  73000G3021

Does that SIM work?

It is a Gemalto SIM and to the best of my knowledge is identical to the 
latest cards from Gemalto apart from the rebranding to AT&T.


The new AT&T branded cards should be marked
   71234 G
   3022

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Michael Welter]

Here is a Cingular pay-as-you-go SIM:  73000G3021


Eric Johnson wrote:

Can you tell me the numbers on the chip side of the SIM?
Not the 20 digit ICCID but the 5 digit SKU followed by a letter and then 
the 4 digit Vendor and Version number underneath it.


For example G&D cards say
   71234 D
   2202

Eric

Pranav Desai wrote:


On 7/29/07, *Andy Poling* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


> Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g
sim card
> (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older
cingular
> ones do work (they are "64K smart chip").


I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much 
about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is 
there a way to confirm that its 3G ?


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Eric Johnson]

Can you tell me the numbers on the chip side of the SIM?
Not the 20 digit ICCID but the 5 digit SKU followed by a letter and then 
the 4 digit Vendor and Version number underneath it.


For example G&D cards say
   71234 D
   2202

Eric

Pranav Desai wrote:


On 7/29/07, *Andy Poling* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


> Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g
sim card
> (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older
cingular
> ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). 




I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much 
about SIM cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is 
there a way to confirm that its 3G ?


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Pranav Desai]

On 7/29/07, Andy Poling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
> > (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
> > ones do work (they are "64K smart chip").



I can make calls using the cingular 3G sim card. I dont know much about SIM
cards/networks but it says 3G on it and its by cingular. Is there a way to
confirm that its 3G ?


I have two cingular "64K smart chip" SIMs that won't work in the neo1973
> (CME
> 10), but they both work in both my razr and sierra ac860 card.
>
> Both SIMs are about 9-10 months old now - maybe they changed a while back
> while keeping similar markings?  On the back, one says "3G" (with a tiny
> "c"
> after it) and has the numbers 64205G and 3020.  The other also has 3G(c)
> and
> has 64205O (capital "o") and 4020.
>
> I dug up an old SIM (also cingular) that does work (so I know the GSM chip
> and
> SIM socket aren't faulty), but that account is no longer active.
>
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Michael Welter]

So does this mean Cingualr is moving to proprietary SIMS?

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Andy Poling]

Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
(the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
ones do work (they are "64K smart chip").


I have two cingular "64K smart chip" SIMs that won't work in the neo1973 (CME
10), but they both work in both my razr and sierra ac860 card.

Both SIMs are about 9-10 months old now - maybe they changed a while back
while keeping similar markings?  On the back, one says "3G" (with a tiny "c"
after it) and has the numbers 64205G and 3020.  The other also has 3G(c) and
has 64205O (capital "o") and 4020.

I dug up an old SIM (also cingular) that does work (so I know the GSM chip and
SIM socket aren't faulty), but that account is no longer active.

-Andy

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Daniel Willmann]

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:06:00 -0400
Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > and I am able to make outgoing calls successfully.  Even got the
> > audio working after some fuss ;)
> 
> What fuss in particular?  I can play audio with madplay, but have yet
> to get phone calls to use the speaker (the dialer connects and picks
> up fine...)

It should be just fuss like "alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state
restore"

Regards,
Daniel Willmann


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Scott Rushforth]

Mark Eichin wrote:

and I am able to make outgoing calls successfully.  Even got the audio
working after some fuss ;)



What fuss in particular?  I can play audio with madplay, but have yet
to get phone calls to use the speaker (the dialer connects and picks
up fine...)
  

Right before you dial a call, try

alsactl -f /etc/alsa/gsmhandset.state restore

Then fire up alsamixer and adjust Amp Left and Amp Right to suit your needs.

Also, this should work with the headset plugged in, and using 
gsmheadset.state as well, and then you can use stereoout.state to put it 
back to stereo output.


So, in short, that works for me.  However, I can't seem to make the gsm 
system function reliably.  Seems it can only handle 1 call before a full 
reboot is needed, unless gsm and x are restarted, and even then that 
only works on occasion.  Otherwise the modem just appears to hang, and 
restarting gsmd, and attempting to re-register makes no effect.

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Mark Eichin]

> and I am able to make outgoing calls successfully.  Even got the audio
> working after some fuss ;)

What fuss in particular?  I can play audio with madplay, but have yet
to get phone calls to use the speaker (the dialer connects and picks
up fine...)

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Andreas Kostyrka]

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No, for Neo GTA01 it's probably a focus on software. Guess they did not
find a better GSM/UMTS module in time.

Andreas

Xamindar wrote:
> Whao, I didn't know that.  I assumed it at least had edge.  That totally
> sucks if it is only has GPRS.  What is going on with new phones these
> days?  Seems like they are going backwards in speeds, i-phone and now this.
> HSDPA support?  Why not?  Is it licensing issues?
> 
> 
> Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> edge speeds? *lol* The GTA01 at least has pure classic GPRS.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> Xamindar wrote:
>   
 I have a simple question related to 3G.  Why doesn't the neo support
 3G?  I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
 ever going back to Edge speeds.  And sence this phone has a 640x480
 screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network.
 I would really love to change my "3G phone+Zaurus" combination over to
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Scott Rushforth]

Minor update on the cingular/att 3g sim issue:

I tested my device out this evening with a t-mobile prepaid sim (2g), 
and I am able to make outgoing calls successfully.  Even got the audio 
working after some fuss ;)


So anyhow, seems like its definitely due to either the cingular/att 
network and/or the 3g sim card, and not the neo itself.


Fwiw, the sim contacts on both of the sims appear slightly different.  I 
do not know enough about sim cards to know how significant that is. 


Cheers,
-scott


Harrison Metzger wrote:
I agree. The neo should work with the largest US provider. I would be 
more than happy to mail my sim card to TW or to someplace where 
someone who knows more about the technology than me can look at it (as 
long as I can get it back lol). It would be nice to see the raw 
communication (if any) between the sim and the phone. IMO this is a 
very important issue and I hope the core neo engineers or openmoko 
developers will get time to look into it. (its filed on bugzilla as 
number 666)


Harry


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Giles Jones]

On 28 Jul 2007, at 00:46, Xamindar wrote:

Whao, I didn't know that.  I assumed it at least had edge.  That  
totally sucks if it is only has GPRS.  What is going on with new  
phones these days?  Seems like they are going backwards in speeds,  
i-phone and now this.

HSDPA support?  Why not?  Is it licensing issues?


HSDPA and 3G are current technologies, many vendors are big on NDAs  
etc, which is no good for this project. I guess in time this may change.





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Re: 3G sim cards

[Xamindar]

Whao, I didn't know that.  I assumed it at least had edge.  That
totally sucks if it is only has GPRS.  What is going on with new phones
these days?  Seems like they are going backwards in speeds, i-phone and
now this. 
HSDPA support?  Why not?  Is it licensing issues?


Andreas Kostyrka wrote:

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edge speeds? *lol* The GTA01 at least has pure classic GPRS.

Andreas

Xamindar wrote:
  
  
I have a simple question related to 3G.  Why doesn't the neo support
3G?  I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
ever going back to Edge speeds.  And sence this phone has a 640x480
screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network.
I would really love to change my "3G phone+Zaurus" combination over to
one openmoko phone.


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Re: 3G sim cards

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edge speeds? *lol* The GTA01 at least has pure classic GPRS.

Andreas

Xamindar wrote:
> I have a simple question related to 3G.  Why doesn't the neo support
> 3G?  I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
> ever going back to Edge speeds.  And sence this phone has a 640x480
> screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network.
> I would really love to change my "3G phone+Zaurus" combination over to
> one openmoko phone.
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Xamindar]

I have a simple question related to 3G.  Why doesn't the neo support
3G?  I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine
ever going back to Edge speeds.  And sence this phone has a 640x480
screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network.
I would really love to change my "3G phone+Zaurus" combination over to
one openmoko phone.


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3G sim cards

[Harrison Metzger]

I agree. The neo should work with the largest US provider. I would be more
than happy to mail my sim card to TW or to someplace where someone who knows
more about the technology than me can look at it (as long as I can get it
back lol). It would be nice to see the raw communication (if any) between
the sim and the phone. IMO this is a very important issue and I hope the
core neo engineers or openmoko developers will get time to look into it.
(its filed on bugzilla as number 666)

Harry
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Scott Rushforth]

Chalk another one up for CME ERROR due to the cingular/att 'fireball' 3g 
sim card..


However, it is interesting to note, that I am getting CME ERROR 13 (sim 
failure), rather than CME ERROR 10 (sim not inserted).


Just got my neo, so still trying..

:)

-Scott

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Harrison Metzger writes:
  

Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
(the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it does 2g, I would
like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. According to the GSM modem
it gives error CME 10 (sim card not inserted). any ideas?
Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim
card (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older
cingular ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it
does 2g, I would like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone.
According to the GSM modem it gives error CME 10 (sim card not
inserted). any ideas?



OK, several people have reported failure -- has anybody reported
success?

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Re:3G sim cards

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Harrison Metzger writes:
>Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
>(the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
>ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it does 2g, I would
>like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. According to the GSM modem
>it gives error CME 10 (sim card not inserted). any ideas?
>Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim
>card (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older
>cingular ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it
>does 2g, I would like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone.
>According to the GSM modem it gives error CME 10 (sim card not
>inserted). any ideas?

OK, several people have reported failure -- has anybody reported
success?

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Re: 3G sim cards

[Giles Jones]

On 27 Jul 2007, at 18:19, Eric Johnson wrote:



It'll be a bit of a blow if the phone won't work with the largest  
US GSM operators SIM cards!



But it's not a finished product and it's good that this issue has  
been identified now. It was always going to be the time when these  
things get detected, ie. wider usage of the hardware.




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Re: 3G sim cards

[Eric Johnson]

Harrison Metzger wrote:
I'm not actually sure what number you need. On the (what I would call 
front side) side with NO contacts there is the iccid number which is 
long. On the back (side with contacts) their are 2 numbers: 71324 and 
4021 (please don't clone my phone, lol). So we don't play email tag 
I'm on IRC (name calamous_), could you mind hopping on or messaging me 
if you are already.
Sorry, I was doing it from memory and the first digit of the four seems 
to be the SIM vendor so I shouldn't have said beginning with a  2.

The 71324 is the SKU for the AT&T latest UICC.
The 4021 is the Vendor and Version number.
Based at looking at some cards the vendor numbers are
   2 - G&D
   3 - Gemalto
   4 - Oberthur

I have access to a tool monitoring the communication between the SIM and 
the handset so I will be able to investigate this later.
Unfortunately, they haven't charged my credit card yet so at best I will 
not have a device for a couple of weeks and I only have access to G&D 
and Gemalto UICCs.


Hopefully someone else can help you in the meantime.


It'll be a bit of a blow if the phone won't work with the largest US GSM 
operators SIM cards!


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3G sim cards

[Harrison Metzger]

On the IRC channel sunkist has confirmed this problem too. nibbler_de said
that the sim card that at&t makes is definitely a Oberthur CS SIMphonIC 3G
and that it is comparable with 2G phones still. but how come many people who
tried this card all reported that it didn't work? I'm wondering if a
hardware guy could look into this
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RE: 3G sim cards

[Dean Collins]

I don't have a Neo however I do have a AT&T 3G fireball card.I can
definitely confirm that this works in much much older 2g handsets (I
have a few older 2g handsets that I've traded up from over time).

The newest at&t sim that came with my last new handset 6 months ago
(cingular 8525-htc hermes) works in all the other older handsets.



Regards,

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Harrison Metzger wrote:
> Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim 
> card (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older 
> cingular ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it 
> does 2g, I would like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. 
> According to the GSM modem it gives error CME 10 (sim card not 
> inserted). any ideas?
Well the AT&T 3G cards are definitely have both a SIM and USIM 
application on them and AT&T do a lot of device testing before approving

the cards so it really should work.

Can you say what the Vendor and Version Number of the UICC is?
This is the 4 digit number beginning with a 2 under the "3g fireball" on

the front of the card.

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3G sim cards

[Harrison Metzger]

I'm not actually sure what number you need. On the (what I would call front
side) side with NO contacts there is the iccid number which is long. On the
back (side with contacts) their are 2 numbers: 71324 and 4021 (please don't
clone my phone, lol). So we don't play email tag I'm on IRC (name
calamous_), could you mind hopping on or messaging me if you are already.
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Eric Johnson]

Harrison Metzger wrote:
Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim 
card (the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older 
cingular ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it 
does 2g, I would like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. 
According to the GSM modem it gives error CME 10 (sim card not 
inserted). any ideas?
Well the AT&T 3G cards are definitely have both a SIM and USIM 
application on them and AT&T do a lot of device testing before approving 
the cards so it really should work.


Can you say what the Vendor and Version Number of the UICC is?
This is the 4 digit number beginning with a 2 under the "3g fireball" on 
the front of the card.


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3G sim cards

[Harrison Metzger]

Many people (including I) have not been able to get the at&t 3g sim card
(the one with the "3g fireball") working in our neos. The older cingular
ones do work (they are "64K smart chip"). I dont care if it does 2g, I would
like for my at&t sim card to work in the phone. According to the GSM modem
it gives error CME 10 (sim card not inserted). any ideas?
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Re: 3G sim cards

[Eric Johnson]

Harrison Metzger wrote:
Is there any way to make a 3G sim card work in the device (even if it 
does 2.5g)?
Since the Calypso chipset is 2G a "3G SIM" will only work if it contains 
both the USIM and SIM applications.
I would expect that this is the case for most operators that  have both 
2G and 3G networks.
It is less likely that operators such as 3 would put a SIM application 
on their cards - at least I can't think why they would - since this 
would only be used by a 2G handset which couldn't use their network.




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Re: 3G sim cards

[Raphaël Jacquot]

Harrison Metzger wrote:

Is there any way to make a 3G sim card work in the device (even if it does
2.5g)?


yes, you won't get 3G service, but you'll still be able to use GPRS and 
GSM voice or data


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Re: 3G sim cards

[Andreas Kostyrka]

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They basically should work, but the device does only 2G :), no EGPRS ;)

Andreas

Harrison Metzger wrote:
> Is there any way to make a 3G sim card work in the device (even if it
> does 2.5g)?
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3G sim cards

[Harrison Metzger]

Is there any way to make a 3G sim card work in the device (even if it does
2.5g)?
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