A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Andreas Utterberg
Hello Community of Openmoko

Does anybody know if the device in october is the same device up for sale on
openmoko.com today? And will that device have the same developer support as
the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?

Thanx in advance

br Andutt
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Re: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Giles Jones
Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Hello Community of OpenmokoDoes anybody know if the device in october is the 
 same device up for sale onopenmoko.com today? And will that device have the 
 same developer support as
 the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?Thanx in advancebr Andutt

The next version has minor differences, improved graphics, wifi, one speaker 
instead of two, different GPS chip, less hardware bugs (hopefully).

It can be programmed and upgraded the same as the current version.

---
G O Jones





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Re: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Stirling

Andreas Utterberg wrote:

Hello Community of Openmoko

Does anybody know if the device in october is the same device up for sale on
openmoko.com http://openmoko.com today?

No.
And october is unlikely.
Though we have not been given a date at which the hardware may be 
purchasable. (even a 'later than November' would be of use)

 And will that device have the

same developer support as
the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?


The whole point of OM is that the hardware has well documented 
interfaces and drivers to it.
You can run any software you like over it, and conversely, you can 
install the software on any of the range of phones.


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Re: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Daniel Spies
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:37:00 +0200,  wrote:
 Hello Community of Openmoko
 
 Does anybody know if the device in october is the same device up for sale
 on
 openmoko.com today? 

No! See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison
GTA01 = current
GTA02 = October version

 And will that device have the same developer support
 as
 the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?

Yes.

 
 Thanx in advance
 
 br Andutt


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Re: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Ian Stirling

Giles Jones wrote:

Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :



Hello Community of OpenmokoDoes anybody know if the device in october is the 
same device up for sale onopenmoko.com today? And will that device have the 
same developer support as
the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?Thanx in advancebr Andutt



The next version has minor differences, improved graphics, wifi, one speaker 
instead of two, different GPS chip, less hardware bugs (hopefully).


GPS has not been determined, it may or may not change.

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Fwd: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Andreas Utterberg
Thanx for the fast replies!

Does anybody have a good howto on how to setup a sandbox env on a Fedora to
be able to write apps? I have also read that most applications is written i
GTK+, can one program in any other languages for the moko? Such as
python/perl?

I am really eager to buy a moko, but is it functional today, im living in
sweden, is it stable to call from on GSM?

Also are there any disadvantages to by a moko right now? Does the new 02
have a new design, specs so its smarter to wait?

Thanx in advance and im sorry for any stupid questions.

Br Andutt




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From: Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sep 6, 2007 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: A guestion
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Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Hello Community of OpenmokoDoes anybody know if the device in october is
the same device up for sale onopenmoko.com today? And will that device have
the same developer support as
 the 1973? So one can flash it and write apps to it?Thanx in advancebr
Andutt

The next version has minor differences, improved graphics, wifi, one speaker
instead of two, different GPS chip, less hardware bugs (hopefully).

It can be programmed and upgraded the same as the current version.

---
G O Jones





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Re: Fwd: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 06 September 2007 13:27:34 Andreas Utterberg wrote:
 Thanx for the fast replies!

 Does anybody have a good howto on how to setup a sandbox env on a Fedora to
 be able to write apps? I have also read that most applications is written i
 GTK+, can one program in any other languages for the moko? Such as
 python/perl?

In whatever language you can use to interface with GTK or even X itself, but 
it might not look the same or offer all the moko toolkit interfaces.

 I am really eager to buy a moko, but is it functional today, im living in
 sweden, is it stable to call from on GSM?

Not yet from what I read.



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Re: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

- On 9/6/07, Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| GTK+, can one program in any other languages for the moko? Such as
| python/perl?
\--

Python. Yes.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:BuiltInScriptingLanguage

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_Development_Crash_Course#Adding_Python_scripts_as_applications

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/001909.html

-
| is it stable to call from on GSM?
\--

Yes. Works for me.

-
| Also are there any disadvantages to by a moko right now? Does the new 02
| have a new design, specs so its smarter to wait?
\--

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison

-
| Thanx in advance and im sorry for any stupid questions.
\--

They are not stupid questions. They were relevant to you. Do spend
some time exploring the wiki:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page

SK

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Re: Fwd: A guestion

2007-09-06 Thread Tilman Baumann

Andreas Utterberg wrote:

Thanx for the fast replies!

Does anybody have a good howto on how to setup a sandbox env on a Fedora 
to be able to write apps? I have also read that most applications is 
written i GTK+, can one program in any other languages for the moko? 
Such as python/perl?


I have seen python guis. Perl is available but i don't know if there are 
gtk bindngs available.

The python bindings seem to be more or less complete.

Python will be the prefered language for scripting as it looks now. So 
you can expect full support there at least in the future.


But i have to say, i have no idea how far pyhon is specificly on 
openmoko. It might even be fully complete yet.


I am really eager to buy a moko, but is it functional today, im living 
in sweden, is it stable to call from on GSM?


Rumors have that GSM is working stable now. When i checked last weeks it 
was not (yet).



Also are there any disadvantages to by a moko right now?


Early software early hardware. Both will improve in time...

Does the new 02 
have a new design, specs so its smarter to wait?


Better hardware. (see previous mails on ths thread)

You can start developing in qemu or native builds.

If you think you can live without getting the developer hardware now, i 
suggest you wait.



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