Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Exactly, -neo2 uses the top accelerometer (as in reads from /dev/input/event2), and -neo3 uses the bottom accelerometer (reads from /dev/input/event3).This is where -neo2 and -neo3 come from: event2 and event3. Paul On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 17:53, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware? This is not for hardware revision, both are for GTA02 - neo2 uses bottom accelerometer, and neo3 uses top accelerometer (or maybe in another order :x) It's only for user choose. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I know you did, Trevino, and I'm really sorry I didn't had time to took into it.Right now I'm not focusing on the gestures project, because I've got something else to finish. But don't worry, I've bought the necessary hardware for accelsense.org in order to start working again later this month, and I'll take care of the start-up problem as it's important. Paul On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Paul V. Borza wrote: Haven't figured out that yet; update-rc.d gesl defaults 80 will start the daemon, but it won't work as it will start it before X. I've tried putting it inside xinitrc, but that didn't work either for me. I was probably doing something wrong. Maybe someone else can help to figure this problem once and for all? I wrote a things you could try some weeks ago in your blog [1], but I don't know if they work (I've tested them just via SSH and they work). The only thing come up in my mind was that of dbus-launch the process from an /etc/X11/Xsession.d entry. Bye! [1] http://tinyurl.com/6l9ou7 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Paul V. Borza ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Le jeudi 14 août 2008 à 19:01 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza a écrit : I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. How can I start the gesl daemon at boot time. I tried adding a link (/etc/rc5.d/S99gesl - /etc/init.d/gesl) but it didn't work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 17:53, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware? This is not for hardware revision, both are for GTA02 - neo2 uses bottom accelerometer, and neo3 uses top accelerometer (or maybe in another order :x) It's only for user choose. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Paul V. Borza wrote: Haven't figured out that yet; update-rc.d gesl defaults 80 will start the daemon, but it won't work as it will start it before X. I've tried putting it inside xinitrc, but that didn't work either for me. I was probably doing something wrong. Maybe someone else can help to figure this problem once and for all? I wrote a things you could try some weeks ago in your blog [1], but I don't know if they work (I've tested them just via SSH and they work). The only thing come up in my mind was that of dbus-launch the process from an /etc/X11/Xsession.d entry. Bye! [1] http://tinyurl.com/6l9ou7 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi, Am Freitag, den 05.09.2008, 12:30 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 17:31 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner: I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn, tried to generate a clean source tarball with $ autogen.sh make dist and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package. Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h Would you do me a favour and provide an official source tarball of your release, preferably one created by make dist? Then I'll continue with packaging it. It's pretty strange that you gen a missing accelneo.h as the file is on SVN. The latest version is on SVN. Do you still have problems with missing accelneo.h? Sorry for not being clear: I did not try to compile directly from the svn checkout. Instead, I have built a release tarball with make dist, but this tarball does not work because it is missing some files, e.g. accelneo.h. There is a way to tell automake what files to include in a release tarball, but I don’t know a lot about automake yet. Having a working make dist is not really critical, but it’s a sign of good automake packaging, and it allows you to easily create release tarballs. Also, make distcheck is useful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/automake/Dist.html if you are interestd in that. BTW, what are you plans now that GSOC is over? Are you continuing the development of accelges? Glad you're asking. I'm definitely thinking on continuing this project, and as you said I'm thinking in turning it to a proper program. That's why I've bought accelsense.org, exactly for this purpose. Once I have everything set up on accelsense.org, I'll move the code there on git. And maybe other members would like to contribute. I'll add your items from the above list to the TO-DO list. Just that right now I don't have time to work on it, at least not this month. I'm also doing an internship in Slovenia that's why I'm that busy. Glad to hear that. May I suggest that you set up the git repository earlyier, so that people can start hacking on their branches until you have time to conitnue development? Thanks, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Install patched version of neod from http://westhoffs-welt.de/blog/my_first_openmoko_application.html , it will help. dos On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 14:32, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 16 August 2008 14:02:30 schrideb Fox Mulder: I installed the same uboot version yesterday and my event2 doesn't work like with the old uboot version. I don't think uboot has something to do with the problem if the sensors work or not. Ciao, Rainer Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r what version of uboot? Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512 from here: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file name is 1.3.1 for some reason) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community i played a little with the processes. when i stop the xserver then starting the hexdump to /dev/inout/event2 it will output something. while its dumping, i started the xserver and from the point when the welcome sound was played, the dump stops ouputting anything. same procedure will reproduce it (stop xserver, restart hexdump!, start xserver, dump stops output when plays welcome). mybe any of these processes root 2095 0.0 0.5 2572 700 pts/1S14:21 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/Xsession -- /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -roo root 2099 4.2 4.2 8716 5356 pts/1S 14:21 0:16 \_ /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmap root 2100 0.0 0.5 2676 648 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /etc/X11/Xsession root 2108 0.0 0.4 2680 536 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ run-parts /etc/X11/Xsession.d root 2120 29.7 3.0 22848 3792 pts/1Rl 14:21 1:52 \_ neod root 2121 3.1 10.0 33700 12644 pts/1S14:21 0:11 \_ openmoko-today root 2122 0.6 7.4 29740 9412 pts/1Sl 14:21 0:02 \_ phone-kit root 2123 0.1 2.5 7740 3188 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ matchbox-window- manager -use_titlebar yes -use_desktop_mode decorated -theme root 2124 0.8 5.7 20248 7248 pts/1S14:21 0:03 \_ matchbox-panel-2 -- start-applets systray,startup --end-applets openmoko-pane is cause this. hope this wil help anybody to fix this issue. im using openmoko-devel 20080812. Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi again, Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 17:31 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner: Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 19:01 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn, tried to generate a clean source tarball with $ autogen.sh make dist and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package. Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h Would you do me a favour and provide an “official” source tarball of your release, preferably one created by “make dist”? Then I’ll continue with packaging it. While I’m at it, here are some packaging related suggestions: * Check for the existence of your dependencies in configure. E.g. I could run configure without having libbluetooth2-dev installed, only to have “make” fail. * Please install everything using automake, including configuration etc. This avoids duplication and diversion between accelges_svn.bb, the Debian packaging and other distros. * Do not install files with an ending “.sh” in the path. This is against Debian policy, and ugly as well :-) * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware? * You install the acceleration data into /etc in your bb recipe. This is uncommon for binary data. If it’s data that is going to be modified by programs while running, it should go to /var/lib. Or better, put distributed files in /usr/share and create additional data in /var/lib. I guess that’s quite a large list. But I think it’s what turn a private project into a proper program. BTW, what are you plans now that GSOC is over? Are you continuing the development of accelges? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'll probably do a better integration with the framework on the next release. Paul You are doing an awesome work! I hope you feel that we truly appreciate the extra hours you put into this! :) Having gestures being sent out as signals on the system dbus is going to be great! Thank you so much, Fredrik Wendt signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r what version of uboot? Carci? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r what version of uboot? Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512 from here: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file name is 1.3.1 for some reason) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I installed the same uboot version yesterday and my event2 doesn't work like with the old uboot version. I don't think uboot has something to do with the problem if the sensors work or not. Ciao, Rainer Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r what version of uboot? Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512 from here: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file name is 1.3.1 for some reason) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi Fredrik, Thanks. Recognized gestures, are already sent through dbus, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer-based_Gestures#DBUS Paul On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'll probably do a better integration with the framework on the next release. Paul You are doing an awesome work! I hope you feel that we truly appreciate the extra hours you put into this! :) Having gestures being sent out as signals on the system dbus is going to be great! Thank you so much, Fredrik Wendt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Am Samstag 16 August 2008 14:02:30 schrieb Fox Mulder: I installed the same uboot version yesterday and my event2 doesn't work like with the old uboot version. I don't think uboot has something to do with the problem if the sensors work or not. Ciao, Rainer Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag 16 August 2008 12:36:40 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: btw updating my uboot made my event2 work so I was able to test gestures: the screen rotation worked nice, very cool! r what version of uboot? Now i have 1.3.2+gitr68+650149a53dbdd48bf6dfef90930c8ab182adb512 from here: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/ (the file name is 1.3.1 for some reason) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community i played a little with the processes. when i stop the xserver then starting the hexdump to /dev/inout/event2 it will output something. while its dumping, i started the xserver and from the point when the welcome sound was played, the dump stops ouputting anything. same procedure will reproduce it (stop xserver, restart hexdump!, start xserver, dump stops output when plays welcome). mybe any of these processes root 2095 0.0 0.5 2572 700 pts/1S14:21 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/Xsession -- /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -roo root 2099 4.2 4.2 8716 5356 pts/1S 14:21 0:16 \_ /usr/bin/Xglamo :0 -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640 -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmap root 2100 0.0 0.5 2676 648 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /etc/X11/Xsession root 2108 0.0 0.4 2680 536 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ run-parts /etc/X11/Xsession.d root 2120 29.7 3.0 22848 3792 pts/1Rl 14:21 1:52 \_ neod root 2121 3.1 10.0 33700 12644 pts/1S14:21 0:11 \_ openmoko-today root 2122 0.6 7.4 29740 9412 pts/1Sl 14:21 0:02 \_ phone-kit root 2123 0.1 2.5 7740 3188 pts/1S14:21 0:00 \_ matchbox-window- manager -use_titlebar yes -use_desktop_mode decorated -theme root 2124 0.8 5.7 20248 7248 pts/1S14:21 0:03 \_ matchbox-panel-2 -- start-applets systray,startup --end-applets openmoko-pane is cause this. hope this wil help anybody to fix this issue. im using openmoko-devel 20080812. Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Very cool indeed! I'm really expecting to see apps taking the most out of this. Well done! r (though couldn't get anything read from accelerometers so far, tried restart, too) On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:30 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really great work! But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an init script (even if the script can require the X init script to be ready). Imho it would be better to use the X infrastructure for that, maybe by an Xsession file. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of /etc/init.d/gesl start Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ -- http://www.borza.ro ___ devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:50:54 schrieb carcinoma: Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! i'm sad, because the hexdump for /dev/input/event2 has no output... result is: no working gesture capturing. what can i do to activate the top accelerometer? please help me, it's such a nice thing.. Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! Also after restarting the neo. can this be a hardware fault? Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! Also after restarting the neo. can this be a hardware fault? Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once, but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data, but currently nothing from event2 despite reboots. Probably something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Jyrinki schrieb: 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! Also after restarting the neo. can this be a hardware fault? Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once, but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data, but currently nothing from event2 despite reboots. Probably something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I don't get any data out of event2 and event3. Even if i kill neod, I get no data. But I wonder why Eightball ran some days ago. Now it doesnt run either. As you could probably see, I am runnung 2007.2 Image. Greetungs Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpWg3lYiDScJJ+7QRArmHAKCDteLYYvyw4Tk0F1kRt/8q0Ol7LwCgmSwj u6Q1kKSxQv4aAcXleHA3dWo= =CIzh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Green schrieb: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Timo Jyrinki schrieb: | 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! | Also after restarting the neo. | | can this be a hardware fault? | Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once, | but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data, but | currently nothing from event2 despite reboots. | | Probably something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again. | | -Timo | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | | I don't get any data out of event2 and event3. Even if i kill neod, I | get no data. But I wonder why Eightball ran some days ago. Now it | doesnt run either. As you could probably see, I am runnung 2007.2 Image. what does cat /proc/interrupts say? -Andy Without x startet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 16: 2s3c-ext0 lis302dl 17: 1s3c-ext0 modem 30:8506114 s3c S3C2410 Timer Tick 33: 14 s3c s3c24xx_hcd 35:1990012 s3c I2S PCM Stereo out 37:202 s3c S3c24xx SDIO host controller 41: 41714 s3c s3c2410_udc 42: 0 s3c ohci_hcd:usb1 43: 37631 s3c s3c2440-i2c 48: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 Headphone Jack 49: 1 s3c-ext ar6000 50: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 AUX button 51: 3 s3c-ext Neo1973 HOLD button 53: 58 s3c-ext pcf50633 60: 2 s3c-ext lis302dl 70: 72144 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 71: 29348 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 73: 0 s3c-uart1 s3c2440-uart 74: 2 s3c-uart1 s3c2440-uart 76: 0 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 77: 20 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 79: 87 s3c-adc s3c2410_action 80: 21291 s3c-adc s3c2410_action Err: 0 With x startet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 16: 2s3c-ext0 lis302dl 17: 1s3c-ext0 modem 30:8522896 s3c S3C2410 Timer Tick 33: 14 s3c s3c24xx_hcd 35:1993946 s3c I2S PCM Stereo out 37:202 s3c S3c24xx SDIO host controller 41: 46526 s3c s3c2410_udc 42: 0 s3c ohci_hcd:usb1 43: 37703 s3c s3c2440-i2c 48: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 Headphone Jack 49: 1 s3c-ext ar6000 50: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 AUX button 51: 3 s3c-ext Neo1973 HOLD button 53: 59 s3c-ext pcf50633 60: 2 s3c-ext lis302dl 70: 72362 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 71: 29404 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 73: 0 s3c-uart1 s3c2440-uart 74: 2 s3c-uart1 s3c2440-uart 76: 0 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 77: 20 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 79: 87 s3c-adc s3c2410_action 80: 21291 s3c-adc s3c2410_action Err: 0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpW4tlYiDScJJ+7QRAmZYAJ9KSEBaEo9syXgVVtFaIs0NfHL3iACgxb4/ u/ooW1g6V9kUJgw/TzxauXE= =OJ0J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag 15 August 2008 13:37:56 schrieb Andy Green: what does cat /proc/interrupts say? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 16: 12s3c-ext0 lis302dl 17: 1s3c-ext0 modem 30:3750756 s3c S3C2410 Timer Tick 33: 82 s3c s3c24xx_hcd 35: 875432 s3c I2S PCM Stereo out 37:394 s3c S3c24xx SDIO host controller 41: 26970 s3c s3c2410_udc 42:598 s3c ohci_hcd:usb1 43: 15721 s3c s3c2440-i2c 48: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 Headphone Jack 49: 0 s3c-ext ar6000 50: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 AUX button 51: 1 s3c-ext Neo1973 HOLD button 53: 8 s3c-ext pcf50633 60: 2 s3c-ext lis302dl 70: 4448 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 71: 2367 s3c-uart0 s3c2440-uart 76: 0 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 77: 20 s3c-uart2 s3c2440-uart 79: 37 s3c-adc s3c2410_action 80: 5921 s3c-adc s3c2410_action Err: 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (as you see, that's easy to tell you and many seem to have this problem - you get many answers :) r - and than you for all the great work Andy!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi Yaroslav, Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently (in this release), the daemons can use either of the accelerometers (top or bottom); it just depends on the arguments that are used to start the daemons. However, there are models only for the top accelerometer. Try running gesm --neo2 --config /etc/accelges/neo2 --new up.model (for top accel) or gesm --neo3 --config /etc/accelges/neo3 --new up.model (for bottom accel) What we might need to really improve the accuracy, is a gyroscope. Perhaps in GTA03? Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@ onerussian.com wrote: cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
There's a bug unfortunately with the landscape mode. I think half of it has been corrected (on FSO). Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C R McClenaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bravo - coolest app to date. I've installed on FSO MS2 with updates for dependencies. For me not only is the keyboard having difficulty but other screen touches in the two new landscape modes are not always calibrated correctly. Now I'll have to read the rest of the documentation to see how to connect the gestures to an action. Chris On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Ben Holt wrote: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! Excellent, the gestures seem to be working well for me, thanks! As a somewhat related aside, I haven't played with the landscape view before and am noticing that the keyboard isn't properly calibrated. It looks to expect the keyboard to be centred on the screen, not left justified as it appears. As such typing is pretty difficult. - Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Yes, I'll have to rethink the design a little bit to reduce power consumption. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community maybe when using both accelerometers it would be possible to use a smaller resolution (checking the accelermoters with a larger interval) to reduce cpu-load and powerconsumption? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Don't know what to say here, sorry. Paul On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:50:54 schrieb carcinoma: Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! i'm sad, because the hexdump for /dev/input/event2 has no output... result is: no working gesture capturing. what can i do to activate the top accelerometer? please help me, it's such a nice thing.. Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! Also after restarting the neo. can this be a hardware fault? Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Try the 2008.8 release. Paul On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timo Jyrinki schrieb: 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work! Also after restarting the neo. can this be a hardware fault? Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once, but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show data, but currently nothing from event2 despite reboots. Probably something for the Openmoko hw/driver team to investigate again. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I don't get any data out of event2 and event3. Even if i kill neod, I get no data. But I wonder why Eightball ran some days ago. Now it doesnt run either. As you could probably see, I am runnung 2007.2 Image. Greetungs Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIpWg3lYiDScJJ+7QRArmHAKCDteLYYvyw4Tk0F1kRt/8q0Ol7LwCgmSwj u6Q1kKSxQv4aAcXleHA3dWo= =CIzh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I'll probably do a better integration with the framework on the next release. Paul On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really great work! But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an init script (even if the script can require the X init script to be ready). Imho it would be better to use the X infrastructure for that, maybe by an Xsession file. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of /etc/init.d/gesl start Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ -- http://www.borza.ro ___ devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On the sensitivity issue... The time that the recognizer considers a gesture was made is unfortunately hard-coded with a #define in this release (sorry for that). However, there's something you can do (you can train the classifier to detect dynamic acceleration - i.e. when you make a gesture - to be more rigid). You can't do it in GUI mode, but you can use the console: There are 2 classes: static acceleration (s.class), and dynamic accelration (d.class) Train the dynamic acceleration class: gesm --neo2 --config /etc/accelges/neo2 --new d.class gesm --neo2 --config /etc/accelges/neo2 --train d.class Be aware that this isn't a gesture training, as it's a classifier's class creation, and training. So when you make shake the phone here, you'll have to press the screen of the Neo (doesn't matter where) at all time while you make the move. When you release the screen, your dynamic class will be adapted. Also, once you do this, all the gestures can be considered trash. You'll have to create, train all the gestures (use the GUI). Well, acceleration is not direction unfortunately. A gyroscope can solve this problems - an accelerometer, and a gyroscope will solve these kind of problems. I can do something in the next release to correct the landscape, move upwards detects right problem; I will try that. No, you can't do that right now, as the duration is hard-coded for now. To tool how a gesture looks like, run: gesm --neo2 --config /etc/accelges/neo2 --view up.model or whatever model you like - it's a continuous density left-to-right hidden Markov model Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good :) Here's my experiences, don't know if these are planned for future releases: I don't know if something is wrong for me though because it's really sensitive. Handling my phone ordinarally and gently results in a lot of 'shake shake'. Would it be possible to require a constant shaking motion for 2 seconds or something before it registers? Also it doesn't seem to factor out gravity (I don't know if that is possible?) For example, if I turn my phone upside down, the screen orientation goes with it (Which works great by the way!). If I jerk my phone to the right, up comes 'left'. That's not right. (Hahaha punny!) And if I hold my screen purpendicular to the ground, and jerk the phone upwards and then downwards it detects 'forward, backward' etc etc etc. You're the expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but can we not detect a reasonably consistant 1G force, and then apply a rotation matrix or something to every input value so that things are relative to that direction (And only change the known gravity direction if 1G is sustained in one direction for a long enough period of time) ? These training files, how advanced are they? Would I be able to write one that says something like 'If the accelerometer detects between three and five sudden changes in direction over #Gs that occur over a period that's no less than 2 seconds but no more than 4 seconds?', or stuff that advanced? Thanks for the great work so far :) On Thursday 14 August 2008 13:01:35 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows the user to train the gestures for himself/herself; A listener daemon that sends a notification on the screen of the recognized gesture; Automatically switch of screen orientation for the four possible modes (2xportrait, and 2xlandscape). Here's the direct link for the release: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk You can find documentation, installation instructions, screenshots etc. on the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures I would suggest carefully reading the instructions, and running the gesture listener as soon as you install the package (i.e. before training). Of course, the gestures were not trained for you (unfortunately I had a limited set of training data - only myself), so you'll have to train them for yourself. Have fun with it! Thanks, Paul -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently (in more is usually better than less ;-) I haven't yet looked at the machine learning part of the recognition you do (I know that you described it in your MS thesis I think), but doubling the number of features for classification/detection should have only positive effects here -- those features are not bogus and well correlated with each other, thus I would expect significant boost in performance. And taking the fact that recognition works quite well already with just a single accelerometer is great news -- it means that with 2 it should be just better ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 16: 1821s3c-ext0 lis302dl | 60: 199660 s3c-ext lis302dl Hum seems like they still want to stop making interrupts. Two guys they only get 2 or 12 interrupts and then nothing, this one 1800 on one and presumably it continues to make 200K interrupts on the other. I guess I study it next week, although last time I looked it worked fine, I made an applet to show a moving square in framebuffer according to X / Y and Z (square area). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkilsXgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr5bwCfSwoIxCWfOPw29uNORiBf7BZG +noAn2IvUImlpBQbk/dIfjbsHowaCFDz =ur1F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
You're right, but with the expense of more computational power; and indeed it's all about the features that the hmm, and classifier use :) Paul On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@ onerussian.com wrote: Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently (in more is usually better than less ;-) I haven't yet looked at the machine learning part of the recognition you do (I know that you described it in your MS thesis I think), but doubling the number of features for classification/detection should have only positive effects here -- those features are not bogus and well correlated with each other, thus I would expect significant boost in performance. And taking the fact that recognition works quite well already with just a single accelerometer is great news -- it means that with 2 it should be just better ;-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows the user to train the gestures for himself/herself; A listener daemon that sends a notification on the screen of the recognized gesture; Automatically switch of screen orientation for the four possible modes (2xportrait, and 2xlandscape). Here's the direct link for the release: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk You can find documentation, installation instructions, screenshots etc. on the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures I would suggest carefully reading the instructions, and running the gesture listener as soon as you install the package (i.e. before training). Of course, the gestures were not trained for you (unfortunately I had a limited set of training data - only myself), so you'll have to train them for yourself. Have fun with it! Thanks, Paul -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. wooho this is so cool it works thanks Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of /etc/init.d/gesl start Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! Excellent, the gestures seem to be working well for me, thanks! As a somewhat related aside, I haven't played with the landscape view before and am noticing that the keyboard isn't properly calibrated. It looks to expect the keyboard to be centred on the screen, not left justified as it appears. As such typing is pretty difficult. - Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of /etc/init.d/gesl start Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Excellent!! Two things in one go :) I have trained a bit. But I have problems to train z and some of the others. shake-shake is very prominent in detection :) I noticed also that gesd is running on 17% cpu permanently. Could this be a reason for the problems in detecting or the delay until the notification is shown? Norbert On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 19:01 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows the user to train the gestures for himself/herself; A listener daemon that sends a notification on the screen of the recognized gesture; Automatically switch of screen orientation for the four possible modes (2xportrait, and 2xlandscape). Here's the direct link for the release: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk You can find documentation, installation instructions, screenshots etc. on the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures I would suggest carefully reading the instructions, and running the gesture listener as soon as you install the package (i.e. before training). Of course, the gestures were not trained for you (unfortunately I had a limited set of training data - only myself), so you'll have to train them for yourself. Have fun with it! Thanks, Paul -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! i'm sad, because the hexdump for /dev/input/event2 has no output... result is: no working gesture capturing. what can i do to activate the top accelerometer? please help me, it's such a nice thing.. Carci ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community maybe when using both accelerometers it would be possible to use a smaller resolution (checking the accelermoters with a larger interval) to reduce cpu-load and powerconsumption? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows the user to train the gestures for himself/herself; A listener daemon that sends a notification on the screen of the recognized gesture; Automatically switch of screen orientation for the four possible modes (2xportrait, and 2xlandscape). Here's the direct link for the release: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk You can find documentation, installation instructions, screenshots etc. on the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures I would suggest carefully reading the instructions, and running the gesture listener as soon as you install the package (i.e. before training). Of course, the gestures were not trained for you (unfortunately I had a limited set of training data - only myself), so you'll have to train them for yourself. Have fun with it! This is excellent. Thanks very much Paul! And thanks too for writing such a nice wiki page to go along with it. Well done! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Looks good :) Here's my experiences, don't know if these are planned for future releases: I don't know if something is wrong for me though because it's really sensitive. Handling my phone ordinarally and gently results in a lot of 'shake shake'. Would it be possible to require a constant shaking motion for 2 seconds or something before it registers? Also it doesn't seem to factor out gravity (I don't know if that is possible?) For example, if I turn my phone upside down, the screen orientation goes with it (Which works great by the way!). If I jerk my phone to the right, up comes 'left'. That's not right. (Hahaha punny!) And if I hold my screen purpendicular to the ground, and jerk the phone upwards and then downwards it detects 'forward, backward' etc etc etc. You're the expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but can we not detect a reasonably consistant 1G force, and then apply a rotation matrix or something to every input value so that things are relative to that direction (And only change the known gravity direction if 1G is sustained in one direction for a long enough period of time) ? These training files, how advanced are they? Would I be able to write one that says something like 'If the accelerometer detects between three and five sudden changes in direction over #Gs that occur over a period that's no less than 2 seconds but no more than 4 seconds?', or stuff that advanced? Thanks for the great work so far :) On Thursday 14 August 2008 13:01:35 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows the user to train the gestures for himself/herself; A listener daemon that sends a notification on the screen of the recognized gesture; Automatically switch of screen orientation for the four possible modes (2xportrait, and 2xlandscape). Here's the direct link for the release: http://accelges.googlecode.com/files/accelges_0.1.0-svnr204-r2_armv4t.ipk You can find documentation, installation instructions, screenshots etc. on the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures I would suggest carefully reading the instructions, and running the gesture listener as soon as you install the package (i.e. before training). Of course, the gestures were not trained for you (unfortunately I had a limited set of training data - only myself), so you'll have to train them for yourself. Have fun with it! Thanks, Paul -- http://www.borza.ro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Really great work! But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an init script (even if the script can require the X init script to be ready). Imho it would be better to use the X infrastructure for that, maybe by an Xsession file. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of /etc/init.d/gesl start Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ -- http://www.borza.ro ___ devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
