Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm 
1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min

Should I be worried?

Rui

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Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min
> 
> Should I be worried?
> 
> Rui

I'd not think so.  The estimated time remaining varies because your
'recent' power usage varies between checks.  If GSM or wifi start requiring
more power than before to maintain connection, for example, or backlight
usage varies, etc, then the estimate will change according to recent usage.
 (I'm assuming those weren't invoked immediately after one another, but
that some time elapsed between checks - regardless, only the estimated time
is acting in any way unexpectedly - remaining capacity seems to be pretty
consistent and presumably fairly accurate)

j



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Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat /proc/apm
> > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min
> > 
> > Should I be worried?
> > 
> > Rui
> 
> I'd not think so.  The estimated time remaining varies because your
> 'recent' power usage varies between checks.  If GSM or wifi start requiring
> more power than before to maintain connection, for example, or backlight
> usage varies, etc, then the estimate will change according to recent usage.
>  (I'm assuming those weren't invoked immediately after one another, but
> that some time elapsed between checks - regardless, only the estimated time
> is acting in any way unexpectedly - remaining capacity seems to be pretty
> consistent and presumably fairly accurate)

I know it wasn't timestamped, bu these were consecutive readings,
perhaps within less of a second between each...

I'm not using wifi, no active call, not anything...

Rui

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Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-14 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
And still you can't assume consumption will be constant on a sub-second time
scale...
It would be more user friendly to report a remaining time based on an
average consumption.

2008/10/13 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:30:22PM -0400, Joel Newkirk wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > The following is with Om.2008.9 + opkg upgrade:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 77% 974 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 1158 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 623 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 843 min
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts# cat
> /proc/apm
> > > 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x00 76% 2003 min
> > >
> > > Should I be worried?
> > >
> > > Rui
> >
> > I'd not think so.  The estimated time remaining varies because your
> > 'recent' power usage varies between checks.  If GSM or wifi start
> requiring
> > more power than before to maintain connection, for example, or backlight
> > usage varies, etc, then the estimate will change according to recent
> usage.
> >  (I'm assuming those weren't invoked immediately after one another, but
> > that some time elapsed between checks - regardless, only the estimated
> time
> > is acting in any way unexpectedly - remaining capacity seems to be pretty
> > consistent and presumably fairly accurate)
>
> I know it wasn't timestamped, bu these were consecutive readings,
> perhaps within less of a second between each...
>
> I'm not using wifi, no active call, not anything...
>
> Rui
>
> --
> Frink!
> Today is Sweetmorn, the 67th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174
> + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
> + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
> | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi
> + So let's do it...?
>
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Re: Battery crazy?

2008-10-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And still you can't assume consumption will be constant on
> a sub-second time scale...  It would be more user friendly to report
> a remaining time based on an average consumption.

Any time estimation should actually be done in userland anyway.


Stefan


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