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> If your going to quote the email your replying to, please reply above > the quotation. > Please dont top-post use inline replying and trim the quoted part to the relevant one. > Its hard enough wading through 300 emails a day without having to page > down to see the reply. Its hardest go down and search to what part of the miriad of messges quoted after your reply. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the number of people being annoyed by down-postings. just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. ususally i know from the subject and a short glance a) what the thread was about or b) if i am inclined to read the mail. this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules to be observed instead: - use meaningful subjects - quote only what is absolutely necessary and btw: for the sake of future generations and the archive: _never_ do something like "oh! i found a solution! it's here: http://someoutsideurl. bye" there is little more annoying but searching the archives for a specific problem, hitting a "solved"-post and seeing it points to a dead link w/o citing the solution! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi arne, > imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the > number of people being annoyed by down-postings. I thin both groups of people wat realy hate is full previous message, including all signatures, quoting. > just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px > font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. Most of those have a previous messege where the sentence us missing just to make your day. >:-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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> this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules > to be observed instead: > - use meaningful subjects > - quote only what is absolutely necessary Agreed. One more thing I like with other mailing lists. They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in square brackets. This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. Examples: "[jQuery]","[Qemu-devel]", "[ECOS]", "[Rtai]", "[vlc]" It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: "[OpenMoko]", "[OM]" or "[FR]" // Yocto ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yocto wrote: > One more thing I like with other mailing lists. > They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in > square brackets. > This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. > > Examples: "[jQuery]","[Qemu-devel]", "[ECOS]", "[Rtai]", "[vlc]" > > It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: > "[OpenMoko]", "[OM]" or "[FR]" > Check the headers: List-Id: List for Openmoko community discussion ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/19 Paul Bohme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Check the headers: > > List-Id: List for Openmoko community discussion > Even if your MUA doesn't let you filter on that header, you should be able to filter on the TO or CC address, which will include [EMAIL PROTECTED] That said, do trim and inline- (or bottom-) post. See my sig. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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arne anka wrote: > imho the number of people adverse to top postings equals more or less the > number of people being annoyed by down-postings. > just recently i got mail over 4 pages (with a screen 19200x1200 and 11px > font!) with just one (and above all rather meaninmgless) sentence below. > > ususally i know from the subject and a short glance a) what the thread was > about or b) if i am inclined to read the mail. > > Agreed. > this top/down is not going to solve anything ... there are imho two rules > to be observed instead: > - use meaningful subjects > - quote only what is absolutely necessary > > A little common sense and curtsy, go along way. > and btw: for the sake of future generations and the archive: > _never_ do something like "oh! i found a solution! it's here: > http://someoutsideurl. bye" > there is little more annoying but searching the archives for a specific > problem, hitting a "solved"-post and seeing it points to a dead link w/o > citing the solution! > > A third must have rule should be; don't be lazy start a new thread. Top/Bottom might annoy some people, but thread-jacking has a lasting consequence. It really is an irksome practice. Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM, matt joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A third must have rule should be; don't be lazy start a new thread. > Top/Bottom might annoy some people, but thread-jacking has a lasting > consequence. It really is an irksome practice. > Thread-jacking is annoying in the same way using vi is annoying. That's why I use emacs. -Charles (just kidding) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Sa 19. Juli 2008 schrieb Yocto: > One more thing I like with other mailing lists. > They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists in > square brackets. > This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. > > Examples: "[jQuery]","[Qemu-devel]", "[ECOS]", "[Rtai]", "[vlc]" > > It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: > "[OpenMoko]", "[OM]" or "[FR]" Aaw, no! not this one again! Please have a look at full expanded header of your mails! filter for mailing-list, not subject. All decent MUAs allow to do this. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/19 Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: >> "[OpenMoko]", "[OM]" or "[FR]" > > Aaw, no! not this one again! > Please have a look at full expanded header of your mails! filter for > mailing-list, not subject. All decent MUAs allow to do this. Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not > filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Right... Select a message and click the little down arrow next to reply, then click 'filter messages like this'. Problem Solved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not > filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. Yes it does. Has Words: listid:"community.lists.openmoko.org" ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:58:00 -0400 "Yocto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One more thing I like with other mailing lists. > They start their subjects with a token describing their mailing lists > in square brackets. > This allow to quickly sort / filter the incoming mails. > > Examples: "[jQuery]","[Qemu-devel]", "[ECOS]", "[Rtai]", > "[vlc]" > > It would be nice to see the Openmoko mailing list use something like: > "[OpenMoko]", "[OM]" or "[FR]" > > // Yocto > No, don't do that. That just makes the subject line more noisy while actually adding zero extra information as you can already sort by using the "from" field. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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>> Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not >> filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. > > Yes it does. > > Has Words: listid:"community.lists.openmoko.org" What about the OpenMoko 'Messages' applications ?:) >From the qemu emulator image, it doesn't... ( yet? ) Having a token in the subject help manual (not auto) filtering. // Yocto ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/19 Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not everyone uses a decent MUA! I use gmail, which does allow not >> filter on arbitrary headers. So I filter on TO and CC addresses. > > Yes it does. > > Has Words: listid:"community.lists.openmoko.org" > I thought that was only for the body content. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
