Re: Editing text files
> What I meant was that after you install illume-config-illume and set up the > new keyboards [1], you should back up your 89qtopia file from > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ I lost you already: my initial Om2008.9 install already included illume-config-illume. To install the Raster keyboard, all I had to do was install illume-config, it seems. And I don't think any of it has touched the 89qtopia file. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Am Monday 13 October 2008 07:34:38 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > Check out "nano". > > Has anyone compiled Emacs for the Om2008.9 distribution? > Or maybe Zile? http://buildhost.freesmartphone.org/~mickeyl/om-gta02-deploy/ipk/armv4t/zile_2.2.15-r0_armv4t.ipk -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Stefan Monnier wrote: > How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an > SSH-over-USB connection)? > `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the > ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide > any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as > painful as it gets). > Clearly, we can do much better. > > > Stefan in FSO, I edit with leafpad. It's possible to edit a text file directly from filemanager (gpe) Some help (in french) to get it work. http://sites.google.com/site/pythonopenmoko/leafpad-et-filemanager Yves MAHE ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > "Nishit" == Nishit Dave > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Back up the 89qtopia > before updating wholesale, and replace it when the > > keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. > > I have no idea what you're talking about. What "wholesale" update are > you referring to? What failure of keyboards? What do you gain? > Could you expand a little for me poor novice here? > > > What I meant was that after you install illume-config-illume and set up the new keyboards [1], you should back up your 89qtopia file from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ When you go for opkg update && upgrade, and if that upgrades illume for you, it could result into your new keyboards disappearing. Doing things mentioned here [2] to install a good utility for gprs etc. and then updating the system may also undo some modifications, so backing up 89qtopia after [2] is a good idea. You can have the qpe process disappear, and the dialers, messaging etc. fail after updates. It will help you rescue the setup when you restore it. You will gain more insights with actual experience. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
> "Nishit" == Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Back up the 89qtopia before > updating wholesale, and replace it when the > keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. I have no idea what you're talking about. What "wholesale" update are you referring to? What failure of keyboards? What do you gain? Could you expand a little for me poor novice here? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:21:06 -0400, Stefan Monnier > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most > > of > > > > I guess it's the part that I don't get. What means "Raster's Illume > > keyboard" and how do I select another keyboard? > > I've read the Wiki about it, but I must be too dense to understand it; > > it always seems to refer to a system that looks different from mine. > > I have installed 2008.9 with few changes as of now. > > I guess I'll try again, > > > > > > Stefan > > try: > opkg install illume-config illume-config-illume > > Should net you the 'qwerty' icon on the left in the Top Shelf. When > selected it will open Raster's Illume keyboard. (which should be the > default keyboard at this point, though you may need to restart - at least > xserver-nodm - and it WILL occasionally revert to the Qtopia keyboard, > particularly when changes or updates to something Qtopia are made. if it > shows the predictive keyboard (Raster's version) then tab the icon at the > top-right of the keyboard and select 'Terminal' from the list. > > Back up the 89qtopia before updating wholesale, and replace it when the keyboards fail. Less pain, more gain. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:39:32 -0400 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > opkg install illume-config illume-config-illume > > > Should net you the 'qwerty' icon on the left in the Top Shelf. When > > selected it will open Raster's Illume keyboard. (which should be the > > default keyboard at this point, though you may need to restart - at least > > xserver-nodm - and it WILL occasionally revert to the Qtopia keyboard, > > particularly when changes or updates to something Qtopia are made. if it > > shows the predictive keyboard (Raster's version) then tab the icon at the > > top-right of the keyboard and select 'Terminal' from the list. > > Thanks. I think my confusion was that illume-config-illume was > pre-installed and the descriptions of Raster's keyboard seemed > sufficiently close to the one I saw that I didn't realize that I had > another one and that illume-config mattered. So IIUC, the default > keyboard in Om2008.9 is Qtopia's, and installing illume-config switches > it over to Raster's. > > BTW, the two kinds of keyboards could benefit from each other: Raster's > "zoom on hold" looks amateurish compared to the neat one in Qtopia's. because you use a pretty cruddy theme. try the illume images and better themes. also the qt one looks bad - its a square block - because it isnt using shapes (which are expensive) also it tends to hide under your finger. if the keyboard wasnt all black but lets say white or green with a texture and details - u'd notice the square box. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
> opkg install illume-config illume-config-illume > Should net you the 'qwerty' icon on the left in the Top Shelf. When > selected it will open Raster's Illume keyboard. (which should be the > default keyboard at this point, though you may need to restart - at least > xserver-nodm - and it WILL occasionally revert to the Qtopia keyboard, > particularly when changes or updates to something Qtopia are made. if it > shows the predictive keyboard (Raster's version) then tab the icon at the > top-right of the keyboard and select 'Terminal' from the list. Thanks. I think my confusion was that illume-config-illume was pre-installed and the descriptions of Raster's keyboard seemed sufficiently close to the one I saw that I didn't realize that I had another one and that illume-config mattered. So IIUC, the default keyboard in Om2008.9 is Qtopia's, and installing illume-config switches it over to Raster's. BTW, the two kinds of keyboards could benefit from each other: Raster's "zoom on hold" looks amateurish compared to the neat one in Qtopia's. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
> Check out "nano". Has anyone compiled Emacs for the Om2008.9 distribution? Or maybe Zile? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:21:06 -0400, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most > of > > I guess it's the part that I don't get. What means "Raster's Illume > keyboard" and how do I select another keyboard? > I've read the Wiki about it, but I must be too dense to understand it; > it always seems to refer to a system that looks different from mine. > I have installed 2008.9 with few changes as of now. > I guess I'll try again, > > > Stefan try: opkg install illume-config illume-config-illume Should net you the 'qwerty' icon on the left in the Top Shelf. When selected it will open Raster's Illume keyboard. (which should be the default keyboard at this point, though you may need to restart - at least xserver-nodm - and it WILL occasionally revert to the Qtopia keyboard, particularly when changes or updates to something Qtopia are made. if it shows the predictive keyboard (Raster's version) then tab the icon at the top-right of the keyboard and select 'Terminal' from the list. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
> I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most of I guess it's the part that I don't get. What means "Raster's Illume keyboard" and how do I select another keyboard? I've read the Wiki about it, but I must be too dense to understand it; it always seems to refer to a system that looks different from mine. I have installed 2008.9 with few changes as of now. I guess I'll try again, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
SCarlson wrote: > > Check out "nano" . +1 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Check out "nano" . -Scott \ Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an > SSH-over-USB connection)? > `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the > ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide > any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as > painful as it gets). > Clearly, we can do much better. > > > Stefan > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Editing-text-files-tp1323540p1323843.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:33:28 -0400, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an > SSH-over-USB connection)? > `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the > ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide > any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as > painful as it gets). > Clearly, we can do much better. > > > Stefan I use Raster's Illume keyboard, and select the Terminal layout, and most of my editing is done with mc, Midnight Commander. "mc -e text.txt" fires it up editing that text file, though I usually have it running in file manager mode already, so I F4 to edit (esc then '4' subs in mc for F4) or tap the 'edit' button at the bottom. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an > SSH-over-USB connection)? > `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the > ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide > any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as > painful as it gets). > Clearly, we can do much better. I use Emacs 22 on Debian on the Freerunner with the Matchbox keyboard. > > > Stefan -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Editing text files
2008/10/13 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an > SSH-over-USB connection)? > `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the > ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide vi works fine here (well, as fine as any modal text editor 'works'...) if you use raster's kb, there is a terminal layout, with an escape key at far bottom right > any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as > painful as it gets). > Clearly, we can do much better. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Editing text files
How do people edit text files on their FreeRunner (other than via an SSH-over-USB connection)? `sed' seems to be about as good as I can get, since `vi' requires the ESC key to do anything useful, but the keyboard doesn't seem to provide any way to enter it (but even if it did, motion with hjkl is about as painful as it gets). Clearly, we can do much better. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community