Re: End User Input....and Question
I have 5 cell phones that need to be recycledwhat a waste. Find dev-kits for them and build apps with them .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: End User Input....and Question
I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good idea. How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the hardware to be changed when the end user version is ready? Rune Gangstø 2008/4/16, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have 5 cell phones that need to be recycledwhat a waste. Find dev-kits for them and build apps with them .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: End User Input....and Question
On 4/16/08, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good idea. How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the hardware to be changed when the end user version is ready? I will try to answer, but I cannot garantee that I am correct. The hardware is complete. But I assume that if hardware bugs are discovered, it will be considered to fix them before the consumer release (depending on the bug). Since all the software isn't ready yet, I guess it is impossible to be 100% sure there are no bugs. But remember, they did a lot of testing, so I guess the hardware is good. The software should be easy to update. You can install/upgrade/uninstall programs on the phone with opkg. It should also be relative simple to download a new image and flash the phone. It is documented in the wiki. -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: End User Input....and Question
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself? IT shoudn't be too hard, and I expect that tools and documentation will be made available for Windows, Mac and Linux users. Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the hardware to be changed when the end user version is ready? The hardware is definitive (except if a real showstopper is found _now_, although I think we're past that point already). The software isn't, and probably won't be for a long time. This is not a negative comment, but software is never 'finished'. It will probably be 'finished enough' to enable daily phone use (make/receive call, send/receive SMS, some phonebook functionality). Lots of people will probably invest more time on developing for the FreeRunner if they have the real hardware in their sweaty hands (I know I will (or at least try :-) )). Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: End User Input....and Question
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The hardware is complete. But I assume that if hardware bugs are discovered, it will be considered to fix them before the consumer release (depending on the bug). Since all the software isn't ready yet, I guess it is impossible to be 100% sure there are no bugs. But remember, they did a lot of testing, so I guess the hardware is good. There will be bugs. I spent three years in hardware continuation engineering and there were always bugs. Most of them not a big deal. I do have to say this. FIC used to be the vendor of our PC mainboards (when we branded our own PCs) and they were always responsive once we detailed the bug to them. Sometimes it was a firmware fix, sometimes we had to modify the mainboards (very rare). The bottom line is there will most likely be hardware bugs but I have great confidence that they will be appropriately addressed by the Neo Team and FIC. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: End User Input....and Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I may not be the typical end user, I want to say that i believe this phone will have appeal to end users like me, who are looking for a phone that can be updated and customized. The Freerunner is in a great position to appeal to those who think GREEN. I have 5 cell phones that need to be recycledwhat a waste. My question is... since I am not a developer... what would be the risk of getting one when available to list members?Appreciate any input. Been waiting so long. Cannot say much about risks From technical POV Freerunner is just a great smart phone running free operating system. If you ready to update software running on device frequently and not frightened by possible bugs or missing features for a while - buy it. Otherwise wait for mass production and consumer ready software. Openmoko want to produce working hardware, make it available early to developers and polish software on the go. Take this points. Make your decision. vote to have the AC charger and stylus and the lanyard (unique with the logo) Mary -- С уважением, Гинзбург Евгений, Системный администратор HighLink ISP Санкт Петербург, Россия +7 812 334-12-12 http://www.hl.ru/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
