Re: European Freerunner in USA?
I just tried this for you in Las Vegas - no problem making a call being roaming connected to Cingular (with my european FR), Petr On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:57:00 -0700 "Jeffrey Malone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (JM) wrote: >Okay, as others have reported, the non-North American version of the >FreeRunner will work in the US. > >In California and Nevada, there is extensive coverage by both ATT and >T-Mobile on the 1900 band. Both offer prepaid SIM cards. >If you do end up getting a prepaid SIM, there are two things to note: > >T-Mobile US does not sell any data plans to their prepaid customers >(so you will not have ANY data with T-Mobile US on a prepaid SIM) >ATT reportedly sells data at a $20/mo cost (unlimited usage). >However, due to a very long reason, T-Mobile coverage would *in >theory* be better, as ATT also relies on 850 towers (T-Mobile US only >has 1900 towers) -- but in major places like San Francisco and Las >Vegas, it is unlikely to be a problem. > >Also, you asked about HSPDA modems. A quick look into the modems >shows they are UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS. The modems' UMTS/HSPDA will not >work here on any carrier. The 2100 band, which everyone 3g outside of >the US uses, is used for something else. >ATT uses 850/1900 hybrid bands, and T-Mobile US uses 1700/2100 hybrid >(which is not compatible with just 2100). >Assuming the modems support 1900, then GPRS/EDGE will work with them. > >Please note that I am not a prepaid customer, so the prices and >availability I've quoted for prepaid data may be incorrect. > >Jeffrey > > >On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Joel Newkirk ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Bryan DeLuca wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be > in San Fransisco and Vegas. > > I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, > so I have some questions: > - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I > buy a temporary card in the states? > - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work > well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card > cost? >> >> >>> Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate >>> on a different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? >> >> T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. >> Both versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only >> difference being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the >> third band. >> >> j >> >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
Okay, as others have reported, the non-North American version of the FreeRunner will work in the US. In California and Nevada, there is extensive coverage by both ATT and T-Mobile on the 1900 band. Both offer prepaid SIM cards. If you do end up getting a prepaid SIM, there are two things to note: T-Mobile US does not sell any data plans to their prepaid customers (so you will not have ANY data with T-Mobile US on a prepaid SIM) ATT reportedly sells data at a $20/mo cost (unlimited usage). However, due to a very long reason, T-Mobile coverage would *in theory* be better, as ATT also relies on 850 towers (T-Mobile US only has 1900 towers) -- but in major places like San Francisco and Las Vegas, it is unlikely to be a problem. Also, you asked about HSPDA modems. A quick look into the modems shows they are UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS. The modems' UMTS/HSPDA will not work here on any carrier. The 2100 band, which everyone 3g outside of the US uses, is used for something else. ATT uses 850/1900 hybrid bands, and T-Mobile US uses 1700/2100 hybrid (which is not compatible with just 2100). Assuming the modems support 1900, then GPRS/EDGE will work with them. Please note that I am not a prepaid customer, so the prices and availability I've quoted for prepaid data may be incorrect. Jeffrey On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Bryan DeLuca wrote: >>> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? > > >> Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a >> different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? > > T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. Both > versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only difference > being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the third band. > > j > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:14 +1000, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan DeLuca wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>> I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San >>> Fransisco and Vegas. >>> >>> I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I >>> have some questions: >>> - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a >>> temporary card in the states? >>> - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in >>> the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? > Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a > different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? T-Mobile and AT&T have 1900mhz support most everywhere in the US. Both versions of the FreeRunner support 1800 and 1900mhz, the only difference being 850mhz in North America vs 900Mhz elsewhere for the third band. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
Bryan DeLuca wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San >> Fransisco and Vegas. >> >> I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I >> have some questions: >> - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a >> temporary card in the states? >> - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in >> the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? >> >> >> -- >> Joakim Verona >> >> > > I'm not the best person to respond to this, but I think the most compatible > network would be T-mobile. Not sure on your roaming options. There are > several prepaid options from T-Mobile ($1/day, 10¢/minute, etc.) on their > site http://www.t-mobile.com and they include t-zones (limited internet > access). > > Hope this helps, > > Isn't it a hardware thing? I.e the GSM networks in the USA operate on a different frequency? will it work at all with any carrier? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: European Freerunner in USA?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:46:05 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San > Fransisco and Vegas. > > I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I > have some questions: > - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a > temporary card in the states? > - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in > the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? > > > -- > Joakim Verona > I'm not the best person to respond to this, but I think the most compatible network would be T-mobile. Not sure on your roaming options. There are several prepaid options from T-Mobile ($1/day, 10¢/minute, etc.) on their site http://www.t-mobile.com and they include t-zones (limited internet access). Hope this helps, -- Bryan DeLuca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
European Freerunner in USA?
I'm going to travel to the USA next month from Sweden. I will be in San Fransisco and Vegas. I would like to use my Freerunner as much as possible as a phone, so I have some questions: - Will gsm roaming with Telenor(Vodaphone) work well, or should I buy a temporary card in the states? - I have Huawei E220 and E270 3g (HSUPA) modems, do they work well in the states? How much will a temporary flat rate 3g card cost? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
