Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Thanks for your advices, it is far more usable now. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Do not forget dillo ;) http://www.dillo.org/ http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-r0_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=fennec Just to share, I don't know if it is usable 'as if'. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Just to share, I don't know if it is usable 'as if'. It seems so : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/mozilla-fennec-browser-running-openmoko-gta01-phone (but I didn't try it) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Xavier Cremaschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do not forget dillo ;) may i bring to your attantion also: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ IMHO the best free small browser so far. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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While sharing -- links2 is quite good, and shows images when you run it in X. Links are clickable and such of course. --Brock On 2008.10.18.10.01, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: | Do not forget dillo ;) | | http://www.dillo.org/ | http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-r0_armv4t.ipk | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: I installed it using : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/ but I have a ratio problem, display is quite good with X over ssh and default resolution (but I cannot see my mouse pointer) but when I resize Fennec the ratio stays the same and display becomes ugly (display is ugly too on Freerunner, even in landscape). Yeah. That's the problem. The rendering is not so good since the keyboard pop-ups on each loading and so fennec thinks that you're using a smaller screen than the one you're using. However to get better performances (but not completely usable, BTW) with that package, you should upgrade libpixman to the 0.12 version [1] and then to have a better aspect (not to make the menus, icons and co. to be too big) you have to force the screen dpi in the preferences. To do it use about:config or, after the first run, edit the file: /home/root/.mozilla/fennec/*/prefs.js adding: user_pref(layout.css.dpi, 96); Or lower if you want (72 goes well). Some days ago I sent some screenshots on scap. Here's an example [2]. Unfortunately I'm too busy to open bugs at mozilla.org, so if is there anyone with their bugzilla account, please fill some bugs about this! PS: a swap space/file could help you in your tests :| [1] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libpixman-1-0 [2] http://3v1n0.net/openmoko/fennec-openmoko-optimized-3v1n0.net.png -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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This is pretty sweet http://vimeo.com/1981300?pg=embedsec=1981300 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Michele Renda wrote: Someone know something about this? (Midori): a) How to remove the string: you are using a root account (without creating a non root account) I had made a patch for it; just grep the code for that string, disabling that bar is easy as comment the code ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p1347658.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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arne anka wrote: At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) i recently found out about midori -- a small webkit based browser, available in the debian repositiories I just tried midori. The MEGA-fun is that it passes the Acid3 test (100%) ! Regards, Didier -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Someone know something about this? (Midori): a) How to remove the string: you are using a root account (without creating a non root account) b) How to make the address bar a bit larger (to fill the screen!) Thank you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Michele Renda wrote: Someone know something about this? (Midori): a) How to remove the string: you are using a root account (without creating a non root account) I had made a patch for it; just grep the code for that string, disabling that bar is easy as comment the code ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 05:55:39AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Btw to me the debian version is likely the one there's in the repo except for the annoying top banner that warnings me that I'm using a superuser account (eh, I know it!). This is something that's bugging me for some time. What are the reasons to login with the root user? By analysis of the reasons, maybe workarounds can be made, improving things. Rui -- P'tang! Today is Setting Orange, the 26th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 03:56:38PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 05:55:39AM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Btw to me the debian version is likely the one there's in the repo except for the annoying top banner that warnings me that I'm using a superuser account (eh, I know it!). This is something that's bugging me for some time. What are the reasons to login with the root user? Om distros != debian does that. It not so good, but we've to use in this mode, that's why the midori message is so annoying! I don't find midori's message annoying at all, I find it very dangerous to have a GUI stack running as root. Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Setting Orange, the 26th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 03:56:38PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: What are the reasons to login with the root user? Om distros != debian does that. It not so good, but we've to use in this mode, that's why the midori message is so annoying! I don't find midori's message annoying at all, I find it very dangerous to have a GUI stack running as root. I find this too, but since we must accept this (waiting for the moko security) I find that message annoying for the daily usage. I already know that I'm risking... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir create a tarball, that's rather ... long-winded, three far easier ways spring to mind: 1) alien -t midori...deb produces a tar.gz from the deb 2) ar x midori...deb splits the deb in it's three parts, use the data.tar.gz 3 try opkg install midori...deb ipk and deb are somewhat similar -- it might just work (at least the metadata package information is stored on a different place, so i won't really recommend doing that unless you know your system! i mention it for completeness' sake). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Josh Thompson wrote: For anyone else like myself that's not using the debian distro, I was able to download the debian package files for Midori (armel version) from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/midori to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir create a tarball, copy that over to my FR and extract it. I also had to download the package for libgtksourceview to get it to work. I'm using 2007.2. I do have a problem when I click Go-Location... that I can't see whereever I'm supposed to enter the URL. However, if I just type it in using the keyboard followed by Enter, it will go to the URL. Josh Bad luck but it's not working with 2008.8 updates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# midori midori: symbol lookup error: midori: undefined symbol: gtk_tool_item_set_tooltip_text Yves Mahe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yves mahe ha scritto: Josh Thompson wrote: For anyone else like myself that's not using the debian distro, I was able to download the debian package files for Midori (armel version) from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/midori to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir create a tarball, copy that over to my FR and extract it. I also had to download the package for libgtksourceview to get it to work. I'm using 2007.2. I do have a problem when I click Go-Location... that I can't see whereever I'm supposed to enter the URL. However, if I just type it in using the keyboard followed by Enter, it will go to the URL. Josh Bad luck but it's not working with 2008.8 updates [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# midori midori: symbol lookup error: midori: undefined symbol: gtk_tool_item_set_tooltip_text I've made it working days ago but I had to unpack a lot of debian libaries to a midori lib dir that I make it use with LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Btw to me the debian version is likely the one there's in the repo except for the annoying top banner that warnings me that I'm using a superuser account (eh, I know it!). So I've recompiled midori-git using the toolchain making a little patch to remove that top-banner. If you want I could put my .tar (I've not made an .[io]pk yet :P) somewhere, but imho it doesn't work so well as advertized here (there are still many crashes and it's hard to put a location). So I prefer the midori 0.17 downloadable from Om repos. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
For anyone else like myself that's not using the debian distro, I was able to download the debian package files for Midori (armel version) from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/midori to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir create a tarball, copy that over to my FR and extract it. I also had to download the package for libgtksourceview to get it to work. I'm using 2007.2. I do have a problem when I click Go-Location... that I can't see whereever I'm supposed to enter the URL. However, if I just type it in using the keyboard followed by Enter, it will go to the URL. Josh On Wednesday 27 August 2008 6:10:10 am Michele Renda wrote: Yes, I have the same impession too I used the ipk version of Midori (Om 2008.8) and I realy did't liked it, but then I used the Debian + XFCE + Midori: It is wonderful! Not too I was able to see www.alitalia.it, that is a site problematic in computers, it render perfect on midori. I used it on everyday use. budfive wrote: I just looked through several browsers for something that is useable. The conclusion I reached is that the debian packaged copy of midori is excellent. And not just excellent compared with the other browsers or compared with what was considered useful on openmoko so far. It is actually very functional and very fast. If you have had a bad experience with midori using openmoko's packages, try it again with debian. You will be very pleasantly surprised. This actually gives me a reason to carry the freerunner with me. Get it. Get it now. Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) Maybe it is a bit slow when starting but at the moment it is the best browser i found for my neo. But you are right. In the future i hope there will be a bit more lightweight mobile version of the firefox. I viciously hate my experience with midori and openmoko-browser :) Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Boomtime, the 18th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Nice, When I get my FreeRunner (tomorrow), I will try your steps. Maybe you can put the steps on the wiki? btw. Someone has already post a bug report for openmoko builds (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450929). Hope someone of the Fennec team responds. Greetz quot;Marco Trevisan (Treviño)quot; wrote: Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Is it possible to test Fennec yet? Is this starting place? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec Well, it runs [1]. Slowly [2] but it runs! :P I found the quoted page yesterday and I started compiling it with this .mozconfig [3] (and with a fixed Openmoko Toolchain). Building working binaries isn't so easy due to some compilation errors that I was able to fix only workarounding them (I had no time to fix the compilation scripts). However you can find my binaries here [4], they need some external packages like libidl-2-0 that you can grab from the angstrom repo. Then, simply put the fennec dir in your freerunner and run ./fennec (use DISPLAY=:0 dbus-launch if you start it from ssh). [1] http://www.3v1n0.net/openmoko/ - also on scap.linuxtogo.org [2] http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/fennec-openmoko-mozconfig [3] I had to use Xfbdev in my phone [4], maybe Xglamo works a little better, however the main problem is the CPU/RAM usage (of X too). I've to check if there are some better compilation flags! BTW it runs quite well in maemo, so I hope it will also in Om. [4] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000660.html [5] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p789093.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I have the same impession too I used the ipk version of Midori (Om 2008.8) and I realy did't liked it, but then I used the Debian + XFCE + Midori: It is wonderful! Not too I was able to see www.alitalia.it, that is a site problematic in computers, it render perfect on midori. I used it on everyday use. budfive wrote: I just looked through several browsers for something that is useable. The conclusion I reached is that the debian packaged copy of midori is excellent. And not just excellent compared with the other browsers or compared with what was considered useful on openmoko so far. It is actually very functional and very fast. If you have had a bad experience with midori using openmoko's packages, try it again with debian. You will be very pleasantly surprised. This actually gives me a reason to carry the freerunner with me. Get it. Get it now. Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) Maybe it is a bit slow when starting but at the moment it is the best browser i found for my neo. But you are right. In the future i hope there will be a bit more lightweight mobile version of the firefox. I viciously hate my experience with midori and openmoko-browser :) Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Boomtime, the 18th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFItSgCSIAU/I6SkT0RAigSAJ9LGuPdPo4zXoKTrFZFtUZ9eadqdwCgrI16 NKcppYxdLj8bqOcXzxWymps= =9Ehz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Is it possible to test Fennec yet? Is this starting place? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Is it possible to test Fennec yet? Is this starting place? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec Well, it runs [1]. Slowly [2] but it runs! :P I found the quoted page yesterday and I started compiling it with this .mozconfig [3] (and with a fixed Openmoko Toolchain). Building working binaries isn't so easy due to some compilation errors that I was able to fix only workarounding them (I had no time to fix the compilation scripts). However you can find my binaries here [4], they need some external packages like libidl-2-0 that you can grab from the angstrom repo. Then, simply put the fennec dir in your freerunner and run ./fennec (use DISPLAY=:0 dbus-launch if you start it from ssh). [1] http://www.3v1n0.net/openmoko/ - also on scap.linuxtogo.org [2] http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/fennec-openmoko-mozconfig [3] I had to use Xfbdev in my phone [4], maybe Xglamo works a little better, however the main problem is the CPU/RAM usage (of X too). I've to check if there are some better compilation flags! BTW it runs quite well in maemo, so I hope it will also in Om. [4] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/000660.html [5] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/ -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I think it should be great if we could get Fennec (the firefox mobile browser) on the Openmoko phones. First we get an very actively developed browser on the Openmoko and we can help testing the direction of the firefox mobile in real. (So the fennec developers get input on their design) I think we and the fennec people can benefit from this. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p781547.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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+1 I looked in to compiling it enough to find out it's complicated enough that I won't have the time to get it done any time soon. I'd love to see it happen though. Josh On Monday August 25, 2008, Alasal wrote: I think it should be great if we could get Fennec (the firefox mobile browser) on the Openmoko phones. First we get an very actively developed browser on the Openmoko and we can help testing the direction of the firefox mobile in real. (So the fennec developers get input on their design) I think we and the fennec people can benefit from this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) Maybe it is a bit slow when starting but at the moment it is the best browser i found for my neo. But you are right. In the future i hope there will be a bit more lightweight mobile version of the firefox. Ciao, Rainer Alasal wrote: I think it should be great if we could get Fennec (the firefox mobile browser) on the Openmoko phones. First we get an very actively developed browser on the Openmoko and we can help testing the direction of the firefox mobile in real. (So the fennec developers get input on their design) I think we and the fennec people can benefit from this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) i recently found out about midori -- a small webkit based browser, available in the debian repositiories ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like it too, I lost a lot of time to understand that Minimo was not more supported, and that now the supported one is Fennec. I will have a loot to Midori, Firefox is too much fat for my poor FR :) Alasal wrote: I think it should be great if we could get Fennec (the firefox mobile browser) on the Openmoko phones. First we get an very actively developed browser on the Openmoko and we can help testing the direction of the firefox mobile in real. (So the fennec developers get input on their design) I think we and the fennec people can benefit from this. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIssZsSIAU/I6SkT0RAvyNAKCBHIeB/5vmF33cJihz/8G2u/kUugCfb5Em 5Sk5y+jhKRgTKIstbjZuH7E= =LwZm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: At the moment i got iceweasel running on my debian freerunner. It is also a firefox port which works great. I could use any original addon from mozilla. :) Maybe it is a bit slow when starting but at the moment it is the best browser i found for my neo. But you are right. In the future i hope there will be a bit more lightweight mobile version of the firefox. I viciously hate my experience with midori and openmoko-browser :) Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Boomtime, the 18th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
