Few questions regarding phone
Hello All, I have been following the list and seem like a very interesting project and I very excited about getting this device. I do have a few questions: - Will this be a ready to use phone, out of the box ? as long as i have a sim card. - What is the final status on bluetooth. I have been reading that is there, not there ... - What does it mean to be open source, will I be able to write my own hello world ? Can run a bash shell and a ssh client? Will I be able to run some sort of mobile firefox? or does it already have some browser. - Will it have support for USB WiFi devices, since I assume there is no wifi in the initial version. Thanks -- Pranav ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Few questions regarding phone
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 21:42, Pranav Desai wrote: Hello All, I have been following the list and seem like a very interesting project and I very excited about getting this device. I do have a few questions: - Will this be a ready to use phone, out of the box ? as long as i have a sim card. I think so. - What is the final status on bluetooth. I have been reading that is there, not there ... Still not entirely sure I guess. - What does it mean to be open source, will I be able to write my own hello world ? Can run a bash shell and a ssh client? Yes. Will I be able to run some sort of mobile firefox? Probably, not gonna be shipped with it as I understand. - Will it have support for USB WiFi devices, since I assume there is no wifi in the initial version. If you can somehow power the USB wifi stick (as the phone won't do that for you), then yes. pgpARVe1p3rCP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Few questions regarding phone
ti, 2007-01-09 kello 12:42 -0800, Pranav Desai kirjoitti: I do have a few questions: Even though I'm not in the dev team, I thought I'd field the bulk of the questions based on publically available information, to keep the devs deving ;] (Also, hence I'm the only one to blame if some of this information is incorrect.) - Will this be a ready to use phone, out of the box ? as long as i have a sim card. Yes. - What is the final status on bluetooth. I have been reading that is there, not there ... There is no final status, at least none that they'd have us know yet :] Reportedly some prototypes have BT chips, however this is no guarantee of anything. Maybe those prototypes failed miserably, maybe not :] - What does it mean to be open source, will I be able to write my own hello world ? Can run a bash shell and a ssh client? Will I be able to run some sort of mobile firefox? or does it already have some browser. You should be able to do stuff like this, plus modify most of the phone software to your liking. You will need to add a microSD memory card if you want to install a significant amount of addon software. Don't know about the browser situation; Firefox is a bit big, but I suppose one _could_ install a version of it (given a microSD); the GUI would need some customizing a bit to fit. (Didn't the OLPC project do some work on a leaner Firefoo? Maybe useful. Ah well.) - Will it have support for USB WiFi devices, since I assume there is no wifi in the initial version. Should be workable, since OpenMoko runs a 2.6 Linux kernel with much of its potential hardware support, however you'd need to power the WiFi device externally since Neo's USB host will be unpowered. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Few questions regarding phone
Mikko Rauhala writes: You should be able to do stuff like this, plus modify most of the phone software to your liking. You will need to add a microSD memory card if you want to install a significant amount of addon software. Don't know about the browser situation; Firefox is a bit big, but I suppose one _could_ install a version of it (given a microSD); the GUI would need some customizing a bit to fit. (Didn't the OLPC project do some work on a leaner Firefoo? Maybe useful. Ah well.) That's minimo -- hmmm I'd been under the impression it was coming along, but looking now it seems to have gone dormant. Drat, I really like firefox. Opera Mini is supposed to be quite good... The fact that there are no useable browsers for PalmOS 4 since Blazer went away is one of the reasons I'm looking forward to this phone! (my experience with current PalmOS browsers is that Novarra frequently hangs while making requests, and BTB gets badly confused when rendering images). - Will it have support for USB WiFi devices, since I assume there is no wifi in the initial version. Should be workable, since OpenMoko runs a 2.6 Linux kernel with much of its potential hardware support, however you'd need to power the WiFi device externally since Neo's USB host will be unpowered. Also, there is now a MicroSD wi-fi card on the market. No idea what chipset it uses (so no idea whether Linux support exists, or even can exit), and I have to be skeptical as to what kind of range it can possibly have. Also, of course, using the MicroSD slot for wi-fi makes it unuseable for memory. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Few questions regarding phone
Hello. On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 14:33, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Also, there is now a MicroSD wi-fi card on the market. No idea what chipset it uses (so no idea whether Linux support exists, or even can exit), and I have to be skeptical as to what kind of range it can possibly have. No linux drivers for it yet. First we need to get the sdio stack merged anyway. Also, of course, using the MicroSD slot for wi-fi makes it unuseable for memory. The microSD slot is under the battery. As the wlan card has oversize it will not fit. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Few questions regarding phone
Stefan Schmidt writes: Hello. On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 14:33, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Also, there is now a MicroSD wi-fi card on the market. No idea what chipset it uses (so no idea whether Linux support exists, or even can exit), and I have to be skeptical as to what kind of range it can possibly have. No linux drivers for it yet. First we need to get the sdio stack merged anyway. Also, of course, using the MicroSD slot for wi-fi makes it unuseable for memory. The microSD slot is under the battery. As the wlan card has oversize it will not fit. Ah. I hadn't seen that it's oversized -- if it won't fit, drivers aren't an issue! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community