Re: Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
On 7/15/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I'm not a developer - I'm learning Python, but there isn't even bindings yet, and this release is for developers of the phone, not developers of stuff for the phone. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, this device is very much for developers of stuff for the phone. Yes, phone hackers can mess around with the hardware and the bootloader, and kernel developers can work on the kernel, but userspace programs are also welcomed with open arms at this stage of development. -Nick Johnson ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
Of course, stuff for the phone can already be written without any hardware. So, if you only intend to write a task list or something like that that has nothing to do with the GSM or GPS chips, you probably don't need the hardware. Maybe some people working on UI things need the touchscreen to see how it really behaves. But I think most applications could be mostly developed without hardware. I am a developer. But I didn't order because: 1. I'm kinda lazy. I've had play with OpenMoko on my task list for probably 3 months and I still haven't written a single line of code for it. I have a lot of things on my task list... 2. Even when I get around to writing code for OpenMoko, I don't plan to do low-level stuff and don't think I need hardware to finish the bulk of my idea(s). 3. I want wifi. I could probably afford to buy both the v1 and v2 phones, but wifi access really expands the usage scenarios for me. (I'm thinking of all the ways I would use the Neo1973 while at home) -Steven On 7/15/07, Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/15/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I'm not a developer - I'm learning Python, but there isn't even bindings yet, and this release is for developers of the phone, not developers of stuff for the phone. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, this device is very much for developers of stuff for the phone. Yes, phone hackers can mess around with the hardware and the bootloader, and kernel developers can work on the kernel, but userspace programs are also welcomed with open arms at this stage of development. -Nick Johnson ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
Hi! I want to share with you that I received another mail from OpenMoko Shop which seems to be sent to everyone. Here it goes (if anyone's curious): Dear Valued Customer, since there has been some misunderstanding, we just want you to confirm one more time that you are aware that our products at this point in time ARE NOT END-USER DEVICES! So please let us warn you one more time: THIS IS A DEVELOPER RELEASE, NOT A CONSUMER PRODUCT!| For more information about what to expect from this very early developer preview, please see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_preview If you would like to continue this purchase, please reply to this email with the simple string YES_I_DO (all uppercase and with underscores) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response to this email. If you choose to cancel your order, please reply using the word CANCEL (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. Please note that it is important to leave the subject of the mail intact, and that your response comes from the original email that you used to make this order. Also, if you ordered at a point in time where there was no color selection available in the shop, your order has been automatically marked as BLACK/SILVER. If this is fine with you, there is no additional action required. If you wish to receive the WHITE/ORANGE design, please send a mail with the word ORANGE (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. We apologize for any inconvenience, The OpenMoko order processing team It's good to know that OM team is working hard to process all these request and it seems that the project has drawn realy big attention ;-) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
yeah... I got one of those too... I don't want to bother any of the guys... but it sure would be nice to get a we received your reply email, it's cool you're a developer, and we've reserved the orange model you requested(yeah, I'm down with the orange... ya'll can have the boring black and silver ;-) ), but personally I definately put priority on the great work ya'll have been doing over there in taiwan Thank you so much --Jeff On 7/14/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I want to share with you that I received another mail from OpenMoko Shop which seems to be sent to everyone. Here it goes (if anyone's curious): Dear Valued Customer, since there has been some misunderstanding, we just want you to confirm one more time that you are aware that our products at this point in time ARE NOT END-USER DEVICES! So please let us warn you one more time: THIS IS A DEVELOPER RELEASE, NOT A CONSUMER PRODUCT!| For more information about what to expect from this very early developer preview, please see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_preview If you would like to continue this purchase, please reply to this email with the simple string YES_I_DO (all uppercase and with underscores) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response to this email. If you choose to cancel your order, please reply using the word CANCEL (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. Please note that it is important to leave the subject of the mail intact, and that your response comes from the original email that you used to make this order. Also, if you ordered at a point in time where there was no color selection available in the shop, your order has been automatically marked as BLACK/SILVER. If this is fine with you, there is no additional action required. If you wish to receive the WHITE/ORANGE design, please send a mail with the word ORANGE (uppercase) at the beginning of an otherwise empty line of your response email. We apologize for any inconvenience, The OpenMoko order processing team It's good to know that OM team is working hard to process all these request and it seems that the project has drawn realy big attention ;-) cheers cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Finally I received another response from OpenMoko Shop
I cancelled my order after getting this email, for a few reasons: 1. I'm not a developer - I'm learning Python, but there isn't even bindings yet, and this release is for developers of the phone, not developers of stuff for the phone. 2. I get the impression that there has been a *lot* of orders and the real developers will have trouble getting theirs promptly. 3. It can't even be used to make phone calls/ carry around (poor battery life) due to incomplete software, so I really would have no use for it. 4. I get the impression that this device is going to be somewhat ignored when the mass market version is released - hence the warnings and the discount. I was just trying to support the project, and I would still like to see the development evolving, but I'm sure I'll be able to do that via list list. Here's to Neo 2! Cheers, Ben ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
