Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi all! --- On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Brenda Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | This page is Official One. | | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner \-- I am trying to sync up with the updates in the above. It is now available in .txt, .ps, .pdf, .rtf, and .html formats. http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/293/qsug-august-5-2008.tar.gz Feedback welcome. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi guys : I would like to remind everyone, This page is Official One. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner Brenda BrendaWang wrote: > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > > > Shakthi Kannan 提到: > >> Hi! >> >> --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | One comment on Chapter 7: >> | "Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for >> | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date." >> | >> | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: >> | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X >> | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. >> \-- >> >> Thanks! Updated the documentation. >> >> The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to >> links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept >> in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the >> complete documentation available in the wiki. >> >> Just my thoughts, >> >> SK >> >> >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hey! This is great. Thanks. I'll check this out. Note that the quickstart guide is due for a serious update. Michael Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > I have prepared docbook format documentation for > http://quickstart.openmoko.org/. The .xml and generated .html is > available from: > > svn checkout svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/qsug > > Please review it, and let me know of any changes. Will need to add > pictures, and fill-in the remaining text. > > Thanks! > > SK > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
On 2008-06-26, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Arne: > > > >> you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? > >> or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to > >> connect to a computer? > > > > Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. > > that's pretty nice -- though i cannot imagine how one would corrupt one's > om into the need of reflashing while on the road :-) Well, lets say you don't have a computer. You could then still update u-boot:) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
> Hi Arne: > >> you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? >> or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to >> connect to a computer? > > Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. that's pretty nice -- though i cannot imagine how one would corrupt one's om into the need of reflashing while on the road :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi Arne: > you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? > or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to > connect to a computer? Yes, direct flash from SD card without USB. Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Brian C wrote: > BrendaWang wrote: > > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > > In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB > cable and Openmoko provided tool to flash Neo FreeRunner." > > I'm curious about the use of the word "can". Is it possible to flash > the Freerunner from the device itself, without using the USB cable > connected to another GNU/Linux host? > > I suspect it's not, and that this section could clarify this by saying, > > "To flash the Freerunner you must connect it via a USB cable to a host > that can run the Openmoko-provided flashing tool." > > (And then I think it might also be true that the flashing tool is > currently only available for GNU/Linux. Is that right?) The bootloader implements an open standard for Device Firmware Upgrade. The supplied dfu-util implements the host end of the standard on linux, but in principle any compliant host end could be used. There is a version available for the Mac too. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_DFU http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko%20Flasher You can also flash the freerunner using the debug board. If you want to flash the uBoot in NOR this is the only way to do it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
> Yes, even under all NAND flash is empty/content distroyed. You could > still using boot from NOR function (a backup u-boot in NOR flash), and > using boot from SD card function into full system, then re-flashing NAND. you mean, one can flash the om from an sd card, too? or after booting up from sd card as described above one still needs to connect to a computer? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
>> (And then I think it might also be true that the flashing tool is >> currently only available for GNU/Linux. Is that right?) >> >> Brian >> > But I'm sure you can flash the neo with the debugboard too... for > example. and somebody pointed out, the tool ist available for macos as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
> I'm curious about the use of the word "can". Is it possible to flash > the Freerunner from the device itself, without using the USB cable > connected to another GNU/Linux host? Yes, even under all NAND flash is empty/content distroyed. You could still using boot from NOR function (a backup u-boot in NOR flash), and using boot from SD card function into full system, then re-flashing NAND. NOR also have 2 MB space, you might could port any thing into 2 MB space and try another flashing way (bt/wi-fi/etc), if you got debug board. But we never tried. Tony Tu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Brian C schrieb: > BrendaWang wrote: > >> Here is the getting start guide from wiki. >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner >> > > In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB > cable and Openmoko provided tool to flash Neo FreeRunner." > > I'm curious about the use of the word "can". Is it possible to flash > the Freerunner from the device itself, without using the USB cable > connected to another GNU/Linux host? > > I suspect it's not, and that this section could clarify this by saying, > > "To flash the Freerunner you must connect it via a USB cable to a host > that can run the Openmoko-provided flashing tool." > > (And then I think it might also be true that the flashing tool is > currently only available for GNU/Linux. Is that right?) > > Brian > But I'm sure you can flash the neo with the debugboard too... for example. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
BrendaWang wrote: > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner In the Flashing the Freerunner section it says, "You can use the USB cable and Openmoko provided tool to flash Neo FreeRunner." I'm curious about the use of the word "can". Is it possible to flash the Freerunner from the device itself, without using the USB cable connected to another GNU/Linux host? I suspect it's not, and that this section could clarify this by saying, "To flash the Freerunner you must connect it via a USB cable to a host that can run the Openmoko-provided flashing tool." (And then I think it might also be true that the flashing tool is currently only available for GNU/Linux. Is that right?) Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi! --- On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 AM, BrendaWang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner \-- Thanks! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
It looks very nice! Great job:) On 2008-06-26, BrendaWang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the getting start guide from wiki. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > > > Shakthi Kannan 提到: > > Hi! > > > > --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | One comment on Chapter 7: > > | "Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for > > | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date." > > | > > | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: > > | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X > > | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August > > 2007. > > \-- > > > > Thanks! Updated the documentation. > > > > The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to > > links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept > > in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the > > complete documentation available in the wiki. > > > > Just my thoughts, > > > > SK > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Here is the getting start guide from wiki. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner Shakthi Kannan 提到: > Hi! > > --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | One comment on Chapter 7: > | "Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for > | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date." > | > | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: > | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X > | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. > \-- > > Thanks! Updated the documentation. > > The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to > links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept > in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the > complete documentation available in the wiki. > > Just my thoughts, > > SK > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi! --- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | One comment on Chapter 7: | "Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for | dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date." | | That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X | There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. \-- Thanks! Updated the documentation. The wiki documentation is comprehensive, and I feel just pointers to links and necessary documentation to get people started should be kept in this Quick Start User Guide. The User Manual can contain the complete documentation available in the wiki. Just my thoughts, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Great! One comment on Chapter 7: "Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date." That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X There is also an Openmoko Flasher tool for the Macintosh since August 2007. BR, Nikolaus Am 24.06.2008 um 15:03 schrieb Shakthi Kannan: > Hi, > > I have prepared docbook format documentation for > http://quickstart.openmoko.org/. The .xml and generated .html is > available from: > > svn checkout svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/qsug > > Please review it, and let me know of any changes. Will need to add > pictures, and fill-in the remaining text. > > Thanks! > > SK > > -- > Shakthi Kannan > http://www.shakthimaan.com > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner Quick Start User Guide
Hi, I have prepared docbook format documentation for http://quickstart.openmoko.org/. The .xml and generated .html is available from: svn checkout svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/qsug Please review it, and let me know of any changes. Will need to add pictures, and fill-in the remaining text. Thanks! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
