Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-29 Thread Rahul Joshi
Hi everyone,

I'm a little (actually quite) late in this scene so pardon my ignorance on
any goofy questions. I am a LAMP (and uhm ... Java) developer and had always
wanted/waited for a dream box like this. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I
came across openmoko 1 year late. But better late than never... yeah.
I'll be honest when I say I came pretty close to buying an iPhone when I
went to US recently but the whole Out of Stock thing drove me mad. In fact
I started harboring anti-Apple feelings ($20 for s/w upgrades,
overtly-closed-and-controlled UI environment etc. etc.) that I decided to
stick with my iMate SP5m until something really gets to me. And here I am.
So, my first few questions (and I'm thrilled to know a thread on Neo Indian
retailing exists!!) -

1. Where in India can I purchase Neo FreeRunner and its related accessories
once it gets released. I know Rakshat is the man here but can we get some
more info on this please? Can I pre-order one (just in case it runs out of
stock!)

2. Whats this talk of 15.4K discount Mr. Krishna is talking about. How can I
be entitled to it as well? :D :P

Thanks!

Rahul J aka sector7


*Ganesha Krishna* ganesh.krishna at gmail.com
community%40lists.openmoko.org?Subject=Freerunner%20Sale%20Price%20in%20India%20-%20Official%20partner%20with%20OpenmokoIn-Reply-To=
*Tue May 6 11:45:30 CEST 2008*
 Hi,
 First off, my 'thank you' s are due..
 1. To Rakshat for setting up the Indian distribution. You obviously
have
 the know how of open device and open source which is great. This shop has
 greatly relieved my anxiety of shipping and customs which tends to become
a
 hassle.
2. To Harry, for the official announcement on Indian
distribution.Always
 good to know that you are buying from the official shop.

  On the price point:
  I feel 20,000 for Free runner is very decent,  (BTW I am eligible
 for 15.4K discount so that is very very decent :-) ). Neo has a potential
to
 become the office PDA phone. Conference calls to the US and other
oversea
 destinations are extremely common in Indian IT industry. neo +wifi+skype =
 ridiculously reduced cost.

   A GSM +GPS (GTA01 like ) box would be great for the rural India if
priced
 around 10,000. Imagine a post man plotting the shortest path to cover all
 the villages that he has to deliver mail to
 (

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/south_asia_indian_postman/html/1.stm
)
 with the right features the government might want to buy the neo for
 them.
   A VGA screen with GPRS means the farmer can consult the market price
 of his crops, and the wealthy ones can lookup Stock market. (Oh, yes.
 Commodity trading and stock trading are huge in my native village!! but
 there are only few brokerage houses that are miles away in the town
center,
 one needs to call them frequently to be in touch with the market. The
 village itself has GSM+GPRS coverage)

  Students and universities:
   Rakshat, have you considered talking to Universities/engineering
 colleges. There are mind boggling number of engineering colleges in
 Karnataka(my state) and all of them run some kind of telecommunication
 course. a couple of neos to each college with a smartly packaged SDK and
 presentation on getting hands on GSM experience would help you sell many
 phones. I know I would want to work on such a device If I were a student
 now.

 Regards,
 -GK



 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: rakshat hooja rakshat at gmail.com
  To: community at lists.openmoko.org
  Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:57:48 +0530
  Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
 
   Shakthi,
 
 
  I have been using  GTA01 (Neo 1973)   my main phone for some time and
felt
  that at its price point (under INR 12000 for GSM and GPS and VGA
display) it
  would make a great phone for the Indian market. Unfortunately with its
power
  draining problems (I carry 2 spare batteries in my pocket) it can not be
  mass produced (My initial email to Micheal was about reselling the GTA01
in
  India).
 
  Anyway the good part is that the Openmoko and Qtopia software is GPL and
  porting these to a GSM only hardware should be considerably easier than
  writing a new GSM stack! We have plans get it to run on the CompuLab
X270em
  board but thats kind of stalled at the moment. If that works out one can
  bring out GSM only, GSM+GPS, GSM+WiFi and GSM+GPS+WiFi versions of a
phone
  running Openmoko.
 
  Maybe after the success of the Freerunner (I am quite confident on that
as
  I have seen the software really improving over the last 6 months and the
  price point is pretty decent too) Openmoko themselves may consider
bringing
  out a lower spec cheaper version.
 
  Right now I think it would be best to support the Openmoko endevour and
  try and make the Freerunner a great success, both at the market and as a
  philosphy.
 
  Rakshat
 
 
 
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Shakthi Kannan

Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-29 Thread Ganesha Krishna

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:32:43 +0530
 Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
 Openmoko
 Hi everyone,

 I'm a little (actually quite) late in this scene so pardon my ignorance on
 any goofy questions. I am a LAMP (and uhm ... Java) developer and had always
 wanted/waited for a dream box like this. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I
 came across openmoko 1 year late. But better late than never... yeah.


Welcome, I dont think you are very late at all, there were only a few
neo1973s, the first generation free phones (swathanthra phone as some one
pointed out)  sold in India (according to my very casual research of
orkut/blog sphere ) and one had to order them directly from openmoko, no
reseller. The new hardware (Freerunner) is much more juicier(sic)
considering the variety in Indian phone market.


 I'll be honest when I say I came pretty close to buying an iPhone when I
 went to US recently but the whole Out of Stock thing drove me mad. In fact
 I started harboring anti-Apple feelings ($20 for s/w upgrades,
 overtly-closed-and-controlled UI environment etc. etc.) that I decided to
 stick with my iMate SP5m until something really gets to me. And here I am.


of course, its the 'Handheld of the free and Phone of the brave'.


 So, my first few questions (and I'm thrilled to know a thread on Neo Indian
 retailing exists!!) -

 1. Where in India can I purchase Neo FreeRunner and its related accessories
 once it gets released. I know Rakshat is the man here but can we get some
 more info on this please? Can I pre-order one (just in case it runs out of
 stock!)


As far as I know (and I have followed this mailing list since its inception)
Rakshat is THE Man. you can pre-order at his website.
These are his mails form the archive

http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/4gek2hynltrysxtw?q=rakshat
http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/3ytp6yfuxoy6bwfj?q=rakshat



 2. Whats this talk of 15.4K discount Mr. Krishna is talking about. How can
 I be entitled to it as well? :D :P

The first few phones were offered for a discount, I was one of the early
birds. unfortunately he has announced that all the slots are taken as of now
barring last minute cancellations.

Dig thru here to for the whole scoop.
http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=rakshat



 Thanks!

 Rahul J aka sector7


-GK
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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-29 Thread Rahul Joshi
Thanks a heap for this info, it'll certainly help. And its comforting to
know I'm not too far behind this almost-like-a-revolution.
I did get an email from THE man himself mentioning other details pertaining
to purchase of FreeRunner in India. (excited!)

As for the discount, well... congratulations! 15.4K is OMG!! Like they say,
early bird gets the umm.. Neo! :)

Rahul J


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Ganesha Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Rahul Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:32:43 +0530
 Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
 Openmoko
 Hi everyone,

 I'm a little (actually quite) late in this scene so pardon my ignorance on
 any goofy questions. I am a LAMP (and uhm ... Java) developer and had always
 wanted/waited for a dream box like this. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I
 came across openmoko 1 year late. But better late than never... yeah.


 Welcome, I dont think you are very late at all, there were only a few
 neo1973s, the first generation free phones (swathanthra phone as some one
 pointed out)  sold in India (according to my very casual research of
 orkut/blog sphere ) and one had to order them directly from openmoko, no
 reseller. The new hardware (Freerunner) is much more juicier(sic)
 considering the variety in Indian phone market.


 I'll be honest when I say I came pretty close to buying an iPhone when I
 went to US recently but the whole Out of Stock thing drove me mad. In fact
 I started harboring anti-Apple feelings ($20 for s/w upgrades,
 overtly-closed-and-controlled UI environment etc. etc.) that I decided to
 stick with my iMate SP5m until something really gets to me. And here I am.


 of course, its the 'Handheld of the free and Phone of the brave'.


 So, my first few questions (and I'm thrilled to know a thread on Neo
 Indian retailing exists!!) -

 1. Where in India can I purchase Neo FreeRunner and its related
 accessories once it gets released. I know Rakshat is the man here but can we
 get some more info on this please? Can I pre-order one (just in case it runs
 out of stock!)


 As far as I know (and I have followed this mailing list since its
 inception) Rakshat is THE Man. you can pre-order at his website.
 These are his mails form the archive

 http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/4gek2hynltrysxtw?q=rakshat
 http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/3ytp6yfuxoy6bwfj?q=rakshat



 2. Whats this talk of 15.4K discount Mr. Krishna is talking about. How can
 I be entitled to it as well? :D :P

 The first few phones were offered for a discount, I was one of the early
 birds. unfortunately he has announced that all the slots are taken as of now
 barring last minute cancellations.

 Dig thru here to for the whole scoop.
 http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=rakshat



 Thanks!

 Rahul J aka sector7


 -GK

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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread rakshat hooja

 Shakthi,


I have been using  GTA01 (Neo 1973)   my main phone for some time and felt
that at its price point (under INR 12000 for GSM and GPS and VGA display) it
would make a great phone for the Indian market. Unfortunately with its power
draining problems (I carry 2 spare batteries in my pocket) it can not be
mass produced (My initial email to Micheal was about reselling the GTA01 in
India).

Anyway the good part is that the Openmoko and Qtopia software is GPL and
porting these to a GSM only hardware should be considerably easier than
writing a new GSM stack! We have plans get it to run on the CompuLab X270em
board but thats kind of stalled at the moment. If that works out one can
bring out GSM only, GSM+GPS, GSM+WiFi and GSM+GPS+WiFi versions of a phone
running Openmoko.

Maybe after the success of the Freerunner (I am quite confident on that as I
have seen the software really improving over the last 6 months and the price
point is pretty decent too) Openmoko themselves may consider bringing out a
lower spec cheaper version.

Right now I think it would be best to support the Openmoko endevour and try
and make the Freerunner a great success, both at the market and as a
philosphy.

Rakshat




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 
 Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:15 +0530
 Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
 Openmoko
 Hi,

 --- On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Harry Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our
 | first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India that
 you
 | can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot and
 | customs process effort.
 \--

 I would like to thank you guys for this initiative. It greatly eases
 our shipping+customs+tax import issues. Yes, I have made my order :)

 I just have one request. If you guys can strip the current model to
 just have 1. a GSM (say INR 5k, or USD 125) , or 2. a model with
 GSM+GPS (with a reduced price, of course), it will be extremely useful
 for the mass market in India. I would assume the GSM takes
 one-fourth of the total price of the product. Not sure what is the
 proportion of the GPS component.

 INR 20k (with four RF components) is quite affordable to most people
 working in the Industry here in India, but, a basic, customizable
 phone would be really something that will be usable, and affordable
 for the masses.

 Just my thoughts,

 SK

 --
 Shakthi Kannan
 http://www.shakthimaan.com





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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread Ganesha Krishna
Hi,
First off, my 'thank you' s are due..
1. To Rakshat for setting up the Indian distribution. You obviously have
the know how of open device and open source which is great. This shop has
greatly relieved my anxiety of shipping and customs which tends to become a
hassle.
   2. To Harry, for the official announcement on Indian distribution.Always
good to know that you are buying from the official shop.

 On the price point:
 I feel 20,000 for Free runner is very decent,  (BTW I am eligible
for 15.4K discount so that is very very decent :-) ). Neo has a potential to
become the office PDA phone. Conference calls to the US and other oversea
destinations are extremely common in Indian IT industry. neo +wifi+skype =
ridiculously reduced cost.

  A GSM +GPS (GTA01 like ) box would be great for the rural India if priced
around 10,000. Imagine a post man plotting the shortest path to cover all
the villages that he has to deliver mail to
(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/south_asia_indian_postman/html/1.stm)
with the right features the government might want to buy the neo for
them.
  A VGA screen with GPRS means the farmer can consult the market price
of his crops, and the wealthy ones can lookup Stock market. (Oh, yes.
Commodity trading and stock trading are huge in my native village!! but
there are only few brokerage houses that are miles away in the town center,
one needs to call them frequently to be in touch with the market. The
village itself has GSM+GPRS coverage)

 Students and universities:
  Rakshat, have you considered talking to Universities/engineering
colleges. There are mind boggling number of engineering colleges in
Karnataka(my state) and all of them run some kind of telecommunication
course. a couple of neos to each college with a smartly packaged SDK and
presentation on getting hands on GSM experience would help you sell many
phones. I know I would want to work on such a device If I were a student
now.

Regards,
-GK





 -- Forwarded message --
 From: rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:57:48 +0530
 Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
 Openmoko

  Shakthi,


 I have been using  GTA01 (Neo 1973)   my main phone for some time and felt
 that at its price point (under INR 12000 for GSM and GPS and VGA display) it
 would make a great phone for the Indian market. Unfortunately with its power
 draining problems (I carry 2 spare batteries in my pocket) it can not be
 mass produced (My initial email to Micheal was about reselling the GTA01 in
 India).

 Anyway the good part is that the Openmoko and Qtopia software is GPL and
 porting these to a GSM only hardware should be considerably easier than
 writing a new GSM stack! We have plans get it to run on the CompuLab X270em
 board but thats kind of stalled at the moment. If that works out one can
 bring out GSM only, GSM+GPS, GSM+WiFi and GSM+GPS+WiFi versions of a phone
 running Openmoko.

 Maybe after the success of the Freerunner (I am quite confident on that as
 I have seen the software really improving over the last 6 months and the
 price point is pretty decent too) Openmoko themselves may consider bringing
 out a lower spec cheaper version.

 Right now I think it would be best to support the Openmoko endevour and
 try and make the Freerunner a great success, both at the market and as a
 philosphy.

 Rakshat



 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: List for Openmoko community discussion 
  community@lists.openmoko.org
  Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:15 +0530
  Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
  Hi,
 
  --- On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Harry Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  | I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our
  | first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India
  that you
  | can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot and
  | customs process effort.
  \--
 
  I would like to thank you guys for this initiative. It greatly eases
  our shipping+customs+tax import issues. Yes, I have made my order :)
 
  I just have one request. If you guys can strip the current model to
  just have 1. a GSM (say INR 5k, or USD 125) , or 2. a model with
  GSM+GPS (with a reduced price, of course), it will be extremely useful
  for the mass market in India. I would assume the GSM takes
  one-fourth of the total price of the product. Not sure what is the
  proportion of the GPS component.
 
  INR 20k (with four RF components) is quite affordable to most people
  working in the Industry here in India, but, a basic, customizable
  phone would be really something that will be usable, and affordable
  for the masses.
 
  Just my thoughts,
 
  SK
 
  --
  Shakthi Kannan
  http://www.shakthimaan.com

Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread joerg
Am Di  6. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
 I didn't think Skype ran on the openmoko stack.  Please, pretty
 please, tell me that I'm wrong :-D

Nope, right! So forget about skype, use plain SIP!
/j


 
 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Ganesha Krishna
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  First off, my 'thank you' s are due..
  1. To Rakshat for setting up the Indian distribution. You obviously 
have
  the know how of open device and open source which is great. This shop has
  greatly relieved my anxiety of shipping and customs which tends to become 
a
  hassle.
  2. To Harry, for the official announcement on Indian 
distribution.Always
  good to know that you are buying from the official shop.
 
   On the price point:
   I feel 20,000 for Free runner is very decent,  (BTW I am eligible
  for 15.4K discount so that is very very decent :-) ). Neo has a potential 
to
  become the office PDA phone. Conference calls to the US and other 
oversea
  destinations are extremely common in Indian IT industry. neo +wifi+skype =
  ridiculously reduced cost.
 
A GSM +GPS (GTA01 like ) box would be great for the rural India if 
priced
  around 10,000. Imagine a post man plotting the shortest path to cover all
  the villages that he has to deliver mail to
  (
  
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/south_asia_indian_postman/html/1.stm
  ) with the right features the government might want to buy the neo for 
them.
 A VGA screen with GPRS means the farmer can consult the market 
price
  of his crops, and the wealthy ones can lookup Stock market. (Oh, yes.
  Commodity trading and stock trading are huge in my native village!! but
  there are only few brokerage houses that are miles away in the town 
center,
  one needs to call them frequently to be in touch with the market. The
  village itself has GSM+GPRS coverage)
 
   Students and universities:
Rakshat, have you considered talking to Universities/engineering
  colleges. There are mind boggling number of engineering colleges in
  Karnataka(my state) and all of them run some kind of telecommunication
  course. a couple of neos to each college with a smartly packaged SDK and
  presentation on getting hands on GSM experience would help you sell many
  phones. I know I would want to work on such a device If I were a student
  now.
 
  Regards,
  -GK
 
 
 
  
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: community@lists.openmoko.org
   Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:57:48 +0530
   Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
  
  
Shakthi,
  
  
   I have been using  GTA01 (Neo 1973)   my main phone for some time and 
felt
  that at its price point (under INR 12000 for GSM and GPS and VGA display) 
it
  would make a great phone for the Indian market. Unfortunately with its 
power
  draining problems (I carry 2 spare batteries in my pocket) it can not be
  mass produced (My initial email to Micheal was about reselling the GTA01 
in
  India).
  
   Anyway the good part is that the Openmoko and Qtopia software is GPL and
  porting these to a GSM only hardware should be considerably easier than
  writing a new GSM stack! We have plans get it to run on the CompuLab 
X270em
  board but thats kind of stalled at the moment. If that works out one can
  bring out GSM only, GSM+GPS, GSM+WiFi and GSM+GPS+WiFi versions of a phone
  running Openmoko.
  
   Maybe after the success of the Freerunner (I am quite confident on that 
as
  I have seen the software really improving over the last 6 months and the
  price point is pretty decent too) Openmoko themselves may consider 
bringing
  out a lower spec cheaper version.
  
   Right now I think it would be best to support the Openmoko endevour and
  try and make the Freerunner a great success, both at the market and as a
  philosphy.
  
   Rakshat
  
  
  
   
   
-- Forwarded message --
From: Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
  community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:15 +0530
Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
Hi,
   
--- On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Harry Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
| I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are 
our
| first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India
  that you
| can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot 
and
| customs process effort.
\--
   
I would like to thank you guys for this initiative. It greatly eases
our shipping+customs+tax import issues. Yes, I have made my order :)
   
I just have one request. If you guys can strip the current model to
just have 1. a GSM (say INR 5k, or USD 125) , or 2. a model with
GSM+GPS (with a reduced price, of course), it will be extremely useful
for the mass market in India. I

Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread Mo Abrahams
I am 99.998 % certain that it doesn't, although it is foreseeable
that it one day will, especially if the platform takes off. Since Skype
is closed source it would need official developers to port it, although
if somebody built the front-end and did some of the generic voip stuff
for them maybe they could be convinced to just throw in the encryption
for us?

Hey, I can dream!

On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 07:00 -0400, Lally Singh wrote:
 I didn't think Skype ran on the openmoko stack.  Please, pretty
 please, tell me that I'm wrong :-D
 
 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Ganesha Krishna
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  First off, my 'thank you' s are due..
  1. To Rakshat for setting up the Indian distribution. You obviously have
  the know how of open device and open source which is great. This shop has
  greatly relieved my anxiety of shipping and customs which tends to become a
  hassle.
  2. To Harry, for the official announcement on Indian distribution.Always
  good to know that you are buying from the official shop.
 
   On the price point:
   I feel 20,000 for Free runner is very decent,  (BTW I am eligible
  for 15.4K discount so that is very very decent :-) ). Neo has a potential to
  become the office PDA phone. Conference calls to the US and other oversea
  destinations are extremely common in Indian IT industry. neo +wifi+skype =
  ridiculously reduced cost.
 
A GSM +GPS (GTA01 like ) box would be great for the rural India if priced
  around 10,000. Imagine a post man plotting the shortest path to cover all
  the villages that he has to deliver mail to
  (
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/south_asia_indian_postman/html/1.stm
  ) with the right features the government might want to buy the neo for them.
 A VGA screen with GPRS means the farmer can consult the market price
  of his crops, and the wealthy ones can lookup Stock market. (Oh, yes.
  Commodity trading and stock trading are huge in my native village!! but
  there are only few brokerage houses that are miles away in the town center,
  one needs to call them frequently to be in touch with the market. The
  village itself has GSM+GPRS coverage)
 
   Students and universities:
Rakshat, have you considered talking to Universities/engineering
  colleges. There are mind boggling number of engineering colleges in
  Karnataka(my state) and all of them run some kind of telecommunication
  course. a couple of neos to each college with a smartly packaged SDK and
  presentation on getting hands on GSM experience would help you sell many
  phones. I know I would want to work on such a device If I were a student
  now.
 
  Regards,
  -GK
 
 
 
  
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: community@lists.openmoko.org
   Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:57:48 +0530
   Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
  
  
Shakthi,
  
  
   I have been using  GTA01 (Neo 1973)   my main phone for some time and felt
  that at its price point (under INR 12000 for GSM and GPS and VGA display) it
  would make a great phone for the Indian market. Unfortunately with its power
  draining problems (I carry 2 spare batteries in my pocket) it can not be
  mass produced (My initial email to Micheal was about reselling the GTA01 in
  India).
  
   Anyway the good part is that the Openmoko and Qtopia software is GPL and
  porting these to a GSM only hardware should be considerably easier than
  writing a new GSM stack! We have plans get it to run on the CompuLab X270em
  board but thats kind of stalled at the moment. If that works out one can
  bring out GSM only, GSM+GPS, GSM+WiFi and GSM+GPS+WiFi versions of a phone
  running Openmoko.
  
   Maybe after the success of the Freerunner (I am quite confident on that as
  I have seen the software really improving over the last 6 months and the
  price point is pretty decent too) Openmoko themselves may consider bringing
  out a lower spec cheaper version.
  
   Right now I think it would be best to support the Openmoko endevour and
  try and make the Freerunner a great success, both at the market and as a
  philosphy.
  
   Rakshat
  
  
  
   
   
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From: Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:53:15 +0530
Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
  Openmoko
Hi,
   
--- On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Harry Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
| I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our
| first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India
  that you
| can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot and
| customs process effort.
\--
   
I would like to thank you guys for this initiative. It greatly eases
our

Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread Robert Schuster
Lally Singh schrieb:
 I didn't think Skype ran on the openmoko stack.  Please, pretty
 please, tell me that I'm wrong :-D
AFAIK skype has serious issues being conformant to the principles of
swatantra software[0]. ;)

Skype is used for communication in IT departements? I would not trust a
proprietary app using even a proprietary protocol ...

Regards
Robert

[0] -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software#Non-English_terms_in_anglophone_regions



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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-06 Thread Ganesha Krishna

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 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:18:54 +0800
 Subject: Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with
 Openmoko
 Am Di  6. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
  I didn't think Skype ran on the openmoko stack.  Please, pretty
  please, tell me that I'm wrong :-D

 Nope, right! So forget about skype, use plain SIP!
 /j


What! no? well yeah, I know. All in good time I guess. (a quick search of
the archive gave loads and loads of emails on every damn dohicky that can
enable two people to talk).  A PDA + GSM for local use that can call
overseas at 'next to nothing' /min should be very very attractive to the
cost conscious.
 -GK
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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-05 Thread Harry Tsai

Dear Community,
I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our 
first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India that 
you can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot 
and customs process effort.


I will update our other formal resellers to public soon.

BR

Harry

rakshat hooja ??:
Ida Systems Pvt Ltd will be reselling the Neo Freerunner in India. 
After careful consideration the the Retail Price in India has been 
fixed at Rs 2/-.  This includes all taxes, shipping to your 
address, 30 days return and one year warranty. We are hoping to be 
able to ship the Freerunners to customers by end May. For more 
information please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


There are still a few slots left in our inaugural offer for the first 
40 orders of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15399/-. Please mail me at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would 
like to pre-book and avail the offer.


Thanks

Rakshat


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Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko

2008-05-05 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Harry Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our
| first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India that you
| can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot and
| customs process effort.
\--

I would like to thank you guys for this initiative. It greatly eases
our shipping+customs+tax import issues. Yes, I have made my order :)

I just have one request. If you guys can strip the current model to
just have 1. a GSM (say INR 5k, or USD 125) , or 2. a model with
GSM+GPS (with a reduced price, of course), it will be extremely useful
for the mass market in India. I would assume the GSM takes
one-fourth of the total price of the product. Not sure what is the
proportion of the GPS component.

INR 20k (with four RF components) is quite affordable to most people
working in the Industry here in India, but, a basic, customizable
phone would be really something that will be usable, and affordable
for the masses.

Just my thoughts,

SK

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http://www.shakthimaan.com

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