Re: Handy application ideas
On Saturday 03 February 2007 22:34:10 Tomasz Zielinski wrote: > 2007/2/2, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ...Because, I presume that the thief will do very quickly a hard reset. > > There is no such thing like "restore to factory default" in Neo1973. > What you load to flash memory, will remain there. That's why "restore to factory default" will likely mean: "reflash the firmware". Now your average cell phone thief will probably not manage that right away. Maybe a feature could be added that before reflashing (for which there is legitimate use on an OSS phone), the phone tries everything to contact its owner with GPS coordinates? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Handy application ideas
2007/2/2, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ...Because, I presume that the thief will do very quickly a hard reset. There is no such thing like "restore to factory default" in Neo1973. What you load to flash memory, will remain there. And I bet the "silent alarm" application will be very popular among OpenMoko power users (ones able to configure application which doesn't show up in visual application manager, otherwise it doesn't make sense). -- Tomek Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Handy application ideas
Le jeudi 01 février 2007 à 17:31 -0700, Knight Walker a écrit : > On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:57:22AM +0100, Richard Bennett wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There's 2 apps I think would be really usefull: > > SMS Remote Control. > > Allow the NEO user to record a 'macro', like 'Call number in > > speaker-phone mode' , 'Beep loudly' or 'SMS my GPS coordinates to number > > xxx' > > etc (basically a shell script that could be created by selecting actions > > from > > a list in a GUI). > > Then allow them to assign this macro to a key-word, and password. > > If an SMS or email is received with that keyword and password in it, the > > phone > > should execute the associated macro . > > This would allow you to sms your phone to beep loudly if you can't find it, > > even if it is in the 'silent' profile and you wouldn't hear it ring if you > > called it. > > You could also sms it to send you its GPS coords, if you think it has been > > stolen. > > You could initiate it to make voice calls in speaker-phone mode, controlled > > from your PC, or some other device. < Snip > Very good idea :-) < Snip > > I had a similar idea. Basically, add the ability to the Messaging > framework for messages with certain content (keywords? paterns?) to be > intercepted before the Messaging software notifies the owner of them and then > execute a pre-defined routine (shell script, other program, etc). < Snip > Very good idea too :-) > My thought was for mail notification (a.la Push and random access voicemail > aka "Visual Voicemail") but it could be extended into something like the > above. > > > These SMS commands could be set to suppress any audio signal normally > > played > > when a message is received, and auto-discard themselves after execution. > > If they are processed before the audio signal is played, all the better. With > my original idea, if an SMS comes in regarding an important message, rather > than getting just the normal SMS beep, the phone could play a different beep. > Or if the message is detailing a voice mail message, the phone could kick off > a routine to download the message without otherwise bothering you, or play > a different alert tone for voicemail (This has been hashed over several times > on this list already). > > > The second app would be a simple 'phone home ping' That would SMS the > > phone's > > current phone number, and GPS coords to a secure SMS gateway each time the > > SIM card is changed. > > This way if the phone was stolen, and the sim card was changed you would > > know > > the current phone number so you could send SMS commands to track the phone, > > etc. > > That gives me another idea: use an identifying number read from the SIM as > a key to access some of the data on the phone, so if the SIM is swapped, the > phone locks user data until another pass code is input to unlock it... Very good idea too! But why not predefine all the SIM's number(s) you own, and if the SIM card is swapped, check the SIM's number, and if it's unknown, automatically send a SMS with the position of the phone AND the new SIM's number? And send a SMS for each call (with position, SIM's number AND the called number with the hour of the beginning and of the end of the call)... ...Or send all the contacts stored in the new SIM card. ...Because, I presume that the thief will do very quickly a hard reset. Regards, ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Handy application ideas
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:57:22AM +0100, Richard Bennett wrote: > Hi, > > There's 2 apps I think would be really usefull: > SMS Remote Control. > Allow the NEO user to record a 'macro', like 'Call number in > speaker-phone mode' , 'Beep loudly' or 'SMS my GPS coordinates to number xxx' > etc (basically a shell script that could be created by selecting actions from > a list in a GUI). > Then allow them to assign this macro to a key-word, and password. > If an SMS or email is received with that keyword and password in it, the > phone > should execute the associated macro . > This would allow you to sms your phone to beep loudly if you can't find it, > even if it is in the 'silent' profile and you wouldn't hear it ring if you > called it. > You could also sms it to send you its GPS coords, if you think it has been > stolen. > You could initiate it to make voice calls in speaker-phone mode, controlled > from your PC, or some other device. > You could build the phone into a car, and use this to command your car > remotely, through a USB break-out box - set heating to x degrees, lock > everything, cut engine at next halt, talk to driver over speaker-phone etc. I had a similar idea. Basically, add the ability to the Messaging framework for messages with certain content (keywords? paterns?) to be intercepted before the Messaging software notifies the owner of them and then execute a pre-defined routine (shell script, other program, etc). My thought was for mail notification (a.la Push and random access voicemail aka "Visual Voicemail") but it could be extended into something like the above. > These SMS commands could be set to suppress any audio signal normally played > when a message is received, and auto-discard themselves after execution. If they are processed before the audio signal is played, all the better. With my original idea, if an SMS comes in regarding an important message, rather than getting just the normal SMS beep, the phone could play a different beep. Or if the message is detailing a voice mail message, the phone could kick off a routine to download the message without otherwise bothering you, or play a different alert tone for voicemail (This has been hashed over several times on this list already). > The second app would be a simple 'phone home ping' That would SMS the phone's > current phone number, and GPS coords to a secure SMS gateway each time the > SIM card is changed. > This way if the phone was stolen, and the sim card was changed you would know > the current phone number so you could send SMS commands to track the phone, > etc. That gives me another idea: use an identifying number read from the SIM as a key to access some of the data on the phone, so if the SIM is swapped, the phone locks user data until another pass code is input to unlock it... > Then a nice sensor for V2 would be an RFID chip scanner. This way the phone > could be completely locked unless it detected the RFID chip you had put in > your arm on your last trip to a disco on Ibiza, or it could know how much > money you had on you by detecting the RFID chips that are in banknotes... > Not meant 100% seriously that one ;o) You had me until this one. :) -KW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Handy application ideas
Hi, There's 2 apps I think would be really usefull: SMS Remote Control. Allow the NEO user to record a 'macro', like 'Call number in speaker-phone mode' , 'Beep loudly' or 'SMS my GPS coordinates to number xxx' etc (basically a shell script that could be created by selecting actions from a list in a GUI). Then allow them to assign this macro to a key-word, and password. If an SMS or email is received with that keyword and password in it, the phone should execute the associated macro . This would allow you to sms your phone to beep loudly if you can't find it, even if it is in the 'silent' profile and you wouldn't hear it ring if you called it. You could also sms it to send you its GPS coords, if you think it has been stolen. You could initiate it to make voice calls in speaker-phone mode, controlled from your PC, or some other device. You could build the phone into a car, and use this to command your car remotely, through a USB break-out box - set heating to x degrees, lock everything, cut engine at next halt, talk to driver over speaker-phone etc. These SMS commands could be set to suppress any audio signal normally played when a message is received, and auto-discard themselves after execution. The second app would be a simple 'phone home ping' That would SMS the phone's current phone number, and GPS coords to a secure SMS gateway each time the SIM card is changed. This way if the phone was stolen, and the sim card was changed you would know the current phone number so you could send SMS commands to track the phone, etc. Then a nice sensor for V2 would be an RFID chip scanner. This way the phone could be completely locked unless it detected the RFID chip you had put in your arm on your last trip to a disco on Ibiza, or it could know how much money you had on you by detecting the RFID chips that are in banknotes... Not meant 100% seriously that one ;o) Cheers, Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
