Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand 
move like this. Best regards for Harald.


http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko

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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
It's really sad to hear this.
With Harald one of the most trustworthy persons is gone. :(
Well, I'm glad that the other guys like Mickey, Sean, Werner, Joachim, ...
still are there, so I still believe that OpenMoko will be a success.
Let's see what the future brings.
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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread AVee
On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
 On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
  move like this. Best regards for Harald.
 
  
  http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
 
   Best regards.

 ...internal friction

 weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is 
under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there 
knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely 
because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result 
it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is 
doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of 
publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well 
known members of the team. 
Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't 
blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly. 

Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a reality.

AVee


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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Lemon
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:22 -0500, Kyle Bassett wrote:
 as the shit starts to hit the fan...

Oh, stop it.   Harald has been saying he's been having difficulty for a
while.   Maybe this is systemic, and maybe it's not, but there's no
reason to side with chaos.   Why not hope for the best, and give what
support you can so that the best is the actual outcome?

Harald, so long and thanks for all the fish.   It's been good having you
here.



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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Javi Roman
On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move
 like this. Best regards for Harald.

  http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko

  Best regards.



...internal friction

weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

goog luck Harald!

  -Javi

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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Kyle Bassett
as the shit starts to hit the fan...

On Nov 16, 2007 8:20 AM, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand move
  like this. Best regards for Harald.
 
   http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
 
   Best regards.
 


 ...internal friction

 weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

 goog luck Harald!

   -Javi


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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Jeremy G
Best of luck to Harald with his future projects.  I hope that he
continues developing for OpenMoko, even if it isn't in a paid
position.

J.

On Nov 16, 2007 1:02 PM, Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 16, 2007 6:56 PM, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
   On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
move like this. Best regards for Harald.
   
   
http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
   
 Best regards.
  
   ...internal friction
  
   weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?
 
  How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is
  under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there
  knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely
  because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result
  it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is
  doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of
  publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well
  known members of the team.
  Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't
  blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly.
 
  Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a 
  reality.
 
  AVee
 
 
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  potatoes.
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 Can' t agree more.

 Best of luck to you Harald. And the same for the OpenMoko team and project!

 Regards,

 Marc


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Re: Harald LaF0rge Welte: Leaving OpenMoko...

2007-11-16 Thread Marc Verwerft
On Nov 16, 2007 6:56 PM, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 16 November 2007 14:20, Javi Roman wrote:
  On Nov 16, 2007 12:52 PM, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sad news. It is bad news for OM Community but personally I understand
   move like this. Best regards for Harald.
  
  
   http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/11/16/#20071116-leaving_openmoko
  
Best regards.
 
  ...internal friction
 
  weird news, ..., hmmm, what's going on in OpenMoko/FIC?

 How about everything which goes on in every company which grows fast and is
 under a lot of pressure to release a product? Everybody who has been there
 knows it's stressfull, hectic and yes it is really demotivating, largely
 because you keep spending time on stuff you don't want to do and as a result
 it is really hard to get the stuff you want to do done. All of this is
 doubled when you have a parent company, doubled again when there is a lot of
 publicity around it and doubled once more when you are one of the more well
 known members of the team.
 Coping with that for 18 months is an achievement of its own kind, I can't
 blame anybody for not keeping it up endlessly.

 Harold, thanks for everything you did to make an really open phone a reality.

 AVee


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Can' t agree more.

Best of luck to you Harald. And the same for the OpenMoko team and project!

Regards,

Marc

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