Re: Hardiness of the Neo1973?

2007-09-30 Thread Daniel Robinson
Getting email from the community again.

I unsub'd before, and I have started getting email again.

I can no longer unsub (I don't get the followup email).

If someone from OpenMoko actually reads this list, could you please unsub
me?

On 8/29/07, Baxter Kylie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.

 I've been following this project for a couple years with great
 interest but I have a few questions (for those with gen1 and just
 those with some knowledge of the possibilities/limitations of the
 hardware)

 How hardy is the unit? I realize it has no moving parts but could it
 take repeated jarring up and down? Also, is it too heavy or too big
 for an armband strap?

 I'm a marathon runner and words cannot describe how astounding it
 would be for me to be able to find a waterproofed armband case for
 this unit to take on runs. Not only could it provide cell service in
 case of emergencies and act as my portable music player but with the
 gps and accelerometers I could (with a little help) get some useful
 runners' apps in place to track important numbers on runs -- not just
 times on terrains but even stride data (assuming the accelerometers
 are sensitive enough to track arm swing + impact).

 Assuming the unit is up to these tasks I fully intend (with a gen2 in
 hand) to try to get an app up and running for logging this type of
 info ... anyone who thinks this is a good idea or has any additional
 thoughts, I'd love to hear them!

 Regards,
 ~Baxter

 ___
 OpenMoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Bluetooth Heartrate Monitor (was: Hardiness of the Neo1973?)

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Thierer
 now THAT's a cool idea... I'd been trying to figure out how to get HR data
 over bluetooth... but the only hardware for that I could find was a full
 ekg setup... while it would be cool to have that depth of information, it
 goes way beyond what I really need, or want to pay for.  It also removes
 the need to make a bluetooth cadence sensor (imagine how big a battery that
 would need)

What I found was that the heartrate monitor for the Garmin Edge 305 is 
supposed to communicate over bluetooth. It's sold separate for about 50 Euro 
(about $40), so that could be viable solution.

However, I didn't manage to find out if it really could be paired with 
standard bluetooth equipment and what protocol is used. 

Anyone on this list with access to such a device who could check?

Martin

___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Hardiness of the Neo1973?

2007-09-28 Thread William Voorhees
It's Bus powered, low drain though, info sheet says 50mA/h.

-Will

On 9/28/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 9/28/07, William Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm also very interested in developing a Sports/Exercise style
  application for the openmoko. I'm an avid cyclist and I have developed a
  little program to read HR monitor data from the Suunto Heart Rate monitor
  using the Suunto PC Pod. It's a USB device that communicates using the ANT (
  thisisant.com) protocol. I'll try and post some info/code about my work
  sometime this weekend. We should be able to plug this into the openmoko to
  give it access to all kinds of sports monitoring equipment.
 

 now THAT's a cool idea... I'd been trying to figure out how to get HR data
 over bluetooth... but the only hardware for that I could find was a full ekg
 setup... while it would be cool to have that depth of information, it goes
 way beyond what I really need, or want to pay for.  It also removes the need
 to make a bluetooth cadence sensor (imagine how big a battery that would
 need)

 Very nice, but I haven't had a chance to play with a PC pod... is it bus
 powered, or battery?  has anyone tried it with an unpowered bus? (I'm still
 debating whether or not I'll upgrade to a GTA02)
 --
 Jeff
 O|||O
 ___
 OpenMoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Bluetooth Heartrate Monitor (was: Hardiness of the Neo1973?)

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Thierer
 According to garmin's site, they use ANT

Oops, too bad. Don't know why I didn't see this when I was checking last 
time...

Martin




___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Bluetooth Heartrate Monitor (was: Hardiness of the Neo1973?)

2007-09-28 Thread William Voorhees
Hence why I'd look at the Suunto PC Pod as an interface to all the ANT
equipment, It speaks regular ANT (
http://thisisant.com/index.php?module=resourcesmodule[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]int=action=viewid=41)
over the virtual serial port '/dev/ttyUSB0' using the cp2102 usb-serial
driver. There is some relevant info on
http://www.iomule.com/Suunto_PC_Pod/Suunto_PC_Pod.html though I plan to put
up some info about the Linux side of things this afternoon.

Pretty much all sports monitoring equipment coming out in the near future
uses ANT, though much of it uses ANT+Sport, which is a closed ANT network.
To join this network you need to enter the 7 byte key, which is currently
unknown to me. Perhaps some reverse engineering could be done to find this
out, one route that might work would be to reverse engineer the firmware of
the qruanium (http://quarq.us/) a linux open source bike computer, when it
comes out. In the mean time all of the Suunto stuff uses an open network so
it works.


-Will

On 9/28/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 9/28/07, Martin Thierer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Anyone on this list with access to such a device who could check?
 
  Martin
 
  ___
  OpenMoko community mailing list
  community@lists.openmoko.org
  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
 

 According to garmin's site, they use ANT

 --
 Jeff
 O|||O
 ___
 OpenMoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Bluetooth Heartrate Monitor (was: Hardiness of the Neo1973?)

2007-09-28 Thread Jeff Andros
On 9/28/07, Martin Thierer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Anyone on this list with access to such a device who could check?

 Martin

 ___
 OpenMoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


According to garmin's site, they use ANT

-- 
Jeff
O|||O
___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Hardiness of the Neo1973?

2007-08-29 Thread Baxter Kylie
Hi.

I've been following this project for a couple years with great
interest but I have a few questions (for those with gen1 and just
those with some knowledge of the possibilities/limitations of the
hardware)

How hardy is the unit? I realize it has no moving parts but could it
take repeated jarring up and down? Also, is it too heavy or too big
for an armband strap?

I'm a marathon runner and words cannot describe how astounding it
would be for me to be able to find a waterproofed armband case for
this unit to take on runs. Not only could it provide cell service in
case of emergencies and act as my portable music player but with the
gps and accelerometers I could (with a little help) get some useful
runners' apps in place to track important numbers on runs -- not just
times on terrains but even stride data (assuming the accelerometers
are sensitive enough to track arm swing + impact).

Assuming the unit is up to these tasks I fully intend (with a gen2 in
hand) to try to get an app up and running for logging this type of
info ... anyone who thinks this is a good idea or has any additional
thoughts, I'd love to hear them!

Regards,
~Baxter

___
OpenMoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community