Re: How many women on OpenMoko?
On 7/7/07, Colin A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: wow... an unnecessarily hostile response. It goes a long way to explaining why the answer to the OP is "girls = 1". You don't need to be a Human Factors expert to know that men and women respond differently to design cues. For all the men on this list to assume that women are going to love their UI design work is a naive mistake. So is assuming that 'all the men on this list' think that based on one response. IMO, the most important thing for our UI would be to have UI designers. Someone experienced in UI design is going to do more for making the phone usable than an interested bystander or developer of _either_ gender. -Nick Johnson ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How many women on OpenMoko?
I agree that an interesting demographic is the non-techies. I don't think women vs men is as clear a divider as techies vs non-techies. I am a woman and recently do UI, but I spent most of my career until recently doing embedded designs. I am following this project very closely. I can't wait to get one! As an aside, did you see the recent study showing men actually talk just as much as women? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/05/ntalk105.xml Cindy --- Carla Another good demographic to consider is the non-technophile. I seriously considered handing the phone to a non-techie friend (man or woman) and see how long it would take them to make a call. It's a totally unfair test since currently the icons on the home screen are broken images. Once the gui is working how it should, this will be a great test for usability. Eventually it should be possible to hand it to a newbie without giving them a stylus :) With only one stealthy hardware button the cues on the screen have to be really good and something obvious needs to persist on the screen regardless of what's running. If a newbie launches the calculator instead of the dialer, it shouldn't be a "game over" scenario for the test. Brad On 7/5/07, london cowgirl wrote: > > It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially > since women love to talk to so much). > > So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have following the OpenMoko > project? > > Carla ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How many women on OpenMoko?
wow... an unnecessarily hostile response. It goes a long way to explaining why the answer to the OP is "girls = 1". You don't need to be a Human Factors expert to know that men and women respond differently to design cues. For all the men on this list to assume that women are going to love their UI design work is a naive mistake. On 7/5/07, Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, london cowgirl wrote: > It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially since women love to talk to so much). Are you trying to fight a prejudice by using a prejudice (even if meant jokingly)? The "women in technology" debate is about the extra effort women have to put in, and extra shit they have to endure, to be seen as equal to male developers. It is not about the Readers Digests prejudice of "women talk more on the phone" or the "different design of a GUI based on gender". Paul > So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have following the OpenMoko project? > > Carla > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -- Building and integrating Virtual Private Networks with Openswan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811256/104-3099591-2946327?n=283155 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Colin A. White --- E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] M : +44 (0)208 123 5898 W : http://colin.trematon.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How many women on OpenMoko?
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, london cowgirl wrote: > It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially > since women love to talk to so much). Are you trying to fight a prejudice by using a prejudice (even if meant jokingly)? The "women in technology" debate is about the extra effort women have to put in, and extra shit they have to endure, to be seen as equal to male developers. It is not about the Readers Digests prejudice of "women talk more on the phone" or the "different design of a GUI based on gender". Paul > So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have following the OpenMoko > project? > > Carla > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -- Building and integrating Virtual Private Networks with Openswan: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904811256/104-3099591-2946327?n=283155 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How many women on OpenMoko?
Carla Another good demographic to consider is the non-technophile. I seriously considered handing the phone to a non-techie friend (man or woman) and see how long it would take them to make a call. It's a totally unfair test since currently the icons on the home screen are broken images. Once the gui is working how it should, this will be a great test for usability. Eventually it should be possible to hand it to a newbie without giving them a stylus :) With only one stealthy hardware button the cues on the screen have to be really good and something obvious needs to persist on the screen regardless of what's running. If a newbie launches the calculator instead of the dialer, it shouldn't be a "game over" scenario for the test. Brad On 7/5/07, london cowgirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially since women love to talk to so much). So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have following the OpenMoko project? Carla Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How many women on OpenMoko?
It's important that OpenMoko is designed with both sexes in mind (especially since women love to talk to so much). So a quick show of hands - how many women do we have following the OpenMoko project? Carla No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
