JTAG interface board

2008-10-16 Thread Leo McManus
Am looking at buying a Freerunner for use on a embedded course.

When I looked at buying last year the phone came with a developer
board...and a pretty case!

If I buy a freerunner now it will not come with the interface board.

What restrictions will this put on my development. Will I be unable to
modify the U-Boot code. Can I flash all the blocks within the flash?

TA

Leo

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Re: JTAG interface board

2008-10-16 Thread Pete
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Leo McManus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Am looking at buying a Freerunner for use on a embedded course.
>
> When I looked at buying last year the phone came with a developer
> board...and a pretty case!
>
> If I buy a freerunner now it will not come with the interface board.
>
> What restrictions will this put on my development. Will I be unable to
> modify the U-Boot code. Can I flash all the blocks within the flash?
>
> TA
>
> Leo
>
> "In a study, scientists report that drinking beer can be
> good for your liver. I'm sorry, did I say 'scientists'?
> I meant Irish people."
>
>
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You can update uboot and install new kernels and rootfs using openmoko's
dlf-util program.  But if you mess up programming uboot, your going to brick
you phone.

They sell a JTAB / serial port board for the freerunner.  This board is nice
because it can work on any arm system that has the 20 pin JTAG connector.
Openmoko still sells the "Dboard" on the US direct site
http://us.direct.openmoko.com/.  Basicly its a FTDI high speed usb to serial
interface chip wired up to be a JTAG. Its nice because its a simple open
jtag system, that programs like xilinx and openOCD can operate.

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Re: JTAG interface board

2008-10-16 Thread nick loeve
Hi

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Leo McManus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Am looking at buying a Freerunner for use on a embedded course.
>>
>> When I looked at buying last year the phone came with a developer
>> board...and a pretty case!
>>
>> If I buy a freerunner now it will not come with the interface board.
>>
>> What restrictions will this put on my development. Will I be unable to
>> modify the U-Boot code. Can I flash all the blocks within the flash?
>>
>> TA
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> "In a study, scientists report that drinking beer can be
>> good for your liver. I'm sorry, did I say 'scientists'?
>> I meant Irish people."
>>
>>
>> 
>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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>
> You can update uboot and install new kernels and rootfs using openmoko's
> dlf-util program.  But if you mess up programming uboot, your going to brick
> you phone.

You can flash u-boot in NAND via dfu-util, but you can only alter
u-boot in NOR with the debug board. So without the board you can still
play around with bootloader, kernel and rootfs, and if you stuff up,
then the u-boot in NOR will still be available to use to reflash and
recover.

Cheers

>
> They sell a JTAB / serial port board for the freerunner.  This board is nice
> because it can work on any arm system that has the 20 pin JTAG connector.
> Openmoko still sells the "Dboard" on the US direct site
> http://us.direct.openmoko.com/.  Basicly its a FTDI high speed usb to serial
> interface chip wired up to be a JTAG. Its nice because its a simple open
> jtag system, that programs like xilinx and openOCD can operate.
>
> --
> Peter Fetterer
> KB3GTN
>
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> It has a light side and a darkside
> and binds the universe together.
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Re: JTAG interface board

2008-10-16 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| You can flash u-boot in NAND via dfu-util, but you can only alter
| u-boot in NOR with the debug board. So without the board you can still
| play around with bootloader, kernel and rootfs, and if you stuff up,
| then the u-boot in NOR will still be available to use to reflash and
| recover.

Yes you don't have to fear trashing U-Boot in NAND at all, and you can't
trash NOR U-Boot without a debug board.

The main downside is that if you were planning to work on bootloader or
kernel, you will miss out on being able to see the serial console traffic.

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Re: JTAG interface board

2008-10-16 Thread Steve Mosher
the debug board is now sold separately for 100USD
  If you like the case you can try this.

http://www.thepelicancases.com/smallcases.html



Leo McManus wrote:
> Am looking at buying a Freerunner for use on a embedded course.
> 
> When I looked at buying last year the phone came with a developer
> board...and a pretty case!
> 
> If I buy a freerunner now it will not come with the interface board.
> 
> What restrictions will this put on my development. Will I be unable to
> modify the U-Boot code. Can I flash all the blocks within the flash?
> 
> TA
> 
> Leo
> 
> "In a study, scientists report that drinking beer can be
> good for your liver. I'm sorry, did I say 'scientists'?
> I meant Irish people."
> 
> 
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> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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