Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
Hi, Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>Yeah, I could contribute some wallpapers - probably under a CC-Attrib-Share >>Alike license, if that's acceptable to you... > Sure, whatever license that allows users to use them and lets me distribute them with the launcher. Actually, I just need a few (maybe 2 or 3). You could look at making a small wallpaper ipk that can be downloaded by the user from your site / opkg.org. That will give you more freedom and exposure. How about that? Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>And how do you feel about tasteful nudity? :-) > Hah! I don't mind it at all. But maybe it would be better to have them as another ipk - to prevent offending some people. Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>I'm not sure about the scroll bar at the bottom to select the categories... I agree it's prettier - but it's >also slower to find the category you want. Before it was always just two clicks, now it can be 'drag, >drag, drag, click'... > As I see it - these are the advantages :- * Almost infinite amount of categories * looks nicer / sexier and the disadvantages :- * slower * needs dragging and then a click * is it just me or the the dragging seems less responsive * Less Intuitive (maybe just me again) I have asked for feedback about the toolbar - but haven't really gotten much. I'm still not decided one way or the other - but I personally prefer the combo box / hover drop down - primarily because its faster. Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>also - I can't figure out how to edit the list of category in this version - how do I do that? > Click on the configuration part of the toolbar (extreme right) and you'll get the preferences window. Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>Hmm - do you track when and how many times each app is launched? I'd love to see automatically >populated categories for 'most recent' and 'most popular' or something like that... > I'm not doing that yet - but I'll add it to my TODO. Thanks for all the feedback. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.20-tp2969146p3016483.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
Hi to all, In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also vertically. Keep up the good work, C_C! Regards, Mitko 2009/6/3 c_c > > Hi, > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>Yeah, I could contribute some wallpapers - probably under a > CC-Attrib-Share > >>Alike license, if that's acceptable to you... > > > Sure, whatever license that allows users to use them and lets me > distribute them with the launcher. > Actually, I just need a few (maybe 2 or 3). You could look at making a > small > wallpaper ipk that can be downloaded by the user from your site / opkg.org > . > That will give you more freedom and exposure. How about that? > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>And how do you feel about tasteful nudity? :-) > > > Hah! I don't mind it at all. But maybe it would be better to have them as > another ipk - to prevent offending some people. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure about the scroll bar at the bottom to select the > categories... I agree it's prettier - but it's >also slower to find the > category you want. Before it was always just two clicks, now it can be > 'drag, >drag, drag, click'... > > > As I see it - these are the advantages :- > > * Almost infinite amount of categories > * looks nicer / sexier > > and the disadvantages :- > > * slower > * needs dragging and then a click > * is it just me or the the dragging seems less responsive > * Less Intuitive (maybe just me again) > > I have asked for feedback about the toolbar - but haven't really gotten > much. I'm still not decided one way or the other - but I personally prefer > the combo box / hover drop down - primarily because its faster. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>also - I can't figure out how to edit the list of category in this > version > - how do I do that? > > > Click on the configuration part of the toolbar (extreme right) and you'll > get the preferences window. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>Hmm - do you track when and how many times each app is launched? I'd > love to see automatically >populated categories for 'most recent' and 'most > popular' or something like that... > > > I'm not doing that yet - but I'll add it to my TODO. > Thanks for all the feedback. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.20-tp2969146p3016483.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
>In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and >I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one >hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only >horizontally but also vertically. yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the response is so funny... the one hand usage is great. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
Makes sense - I'll try to come up with a few in the next couple of days. I guess drop 'em in a directory like /usr/share/wallpapers? then you can make that the default folder to browse in your prefs UI? For the category picker - how much work would it be to maintain both modes and let the user pick in the prefs? And for editing the categories - I found the 'configure' button at the far right - but I don't see how to add or remove categories from there - I was able to assign apps to certain categories, but not edit the list of categories. Warren On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:30 AM, c_c wrote: > > Hi, > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>Yeah, I could contribute some wallpapers - probably under a > CC-Attrib-Share > >>Alike license, if that's acceptable to you... > > > Sure, whatever license that allows users to use them and lets me > distribute them with the launcher. > Actually, I just need a few (maybe 2 or 3). You could look at making a > small > wallpaper ipk that can be downloaded by the user from your site / opkg.org > . > That will give you more freedom and exposure. How about that? > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>And how do you feel about tasteful nudity? :-) > > > Hah! I don't mind it at all. But maybe it would be better to have them as > another ipk - to prevent offending some people. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>I'm not sure about the scroll bar at the bottom to select the > categories... I agree it's prettier - but it's >also slower to find the > category you want. Before it was always just two clicks, now it can be > 'drag, >drag, drag, click'... > > > As I see it - these are the advantages :- > > * Almost infinite amount of categories > * looks nicer / sexier > > and the disadvantages :- > > * slower > * needs dragging and then a click > * is it just me or the the dragging seems less responsive > * Less Intuitive (maybe just me again) > > I have asked for feedback about the toolbar - but haven't really gotten > much. I'm still not decided one way or the other - but I personally prefer > the combo box / hover drop down - primarily because its faster. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>also - I can't figure out how to edit the list of category in this > version > - how do I do that? > > > Click on the configuration part of the toolbar (extreme right) and you'll > get the preferences window. > > Warren Baird-2 wrote: > > > >>Hmm - do you track when and how many times each app is launched? I'd > love to see automatically >populated categories for 'most recent' and 'most > popular' or something like that... > > > I'm not doing that yet - but I'll add it to my TODO. > Thanks for all the feedback. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.20-tp2969146p3016483.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: > >In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and > >I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one > >hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only > >horizontally but also vertically. > > yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and > there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the > response is so funny... > Yes, thats true... The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't scroll horizontally. I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. Altough it looks very nice, it may be too heavy for the freerunners hardware. But, this also seems to be a common problem of elementary. For example look at Neon. It scrolls really smooth. I have no idea what toolkit they use, though... Apart from this I'd vote for the toolbar and against the dropdown list. Thanks c_c! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 19:49:01 Michael Zanetti wrote: > On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: > > >In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and > > >I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one > > >hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only > > >horizontally but also vertically. > > > > yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and > > there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the > > response is so funny... > > Yes, thats true... The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use > because it doesn't scroll horizontally. Sorry, of course I meant vertically... > > I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the > smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. Altough it looks very nice, > it may be too heavy for the freerunners hardware. > > But, this also seems to be a common problem of elementary. For example look > at Neon. It scrolls really smooth. I have no idea what toolkit they use, > though... > > Apart from this I'd vote for the toolbar and against the dropdown list. > > Thanks c_c! > > Michael > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:02:46 Petr Vanek wrote: > >In contrast to Warner I really like the scroll bar at the bottom, and > >I find it not only nice looking, but also very easy to use with one > >hand. The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only > >horizontally but also vertically. > > yes, i was looking at the same scroll bar used in illume settings and > there it doesn't scroll up and down, which might be the reason why the > response is so funny... > I have also noticed that the toolbar uses resizes all entries according to the longest name. Perhaps it would be worth a try to rename "Uncategorized" into "Others" to make way to scroll shorter. Cheers, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
Hi, OpenMitko wrote: > >>The only problem I found so far is that it scrolls not only horizontally but also >>vertically. > Can't seem to change that from 'C'. Any ideas elementary gurus ? Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>Makes sense - I'll try to come up with a few in the next couple of days. I guess >>drop 'em in a directory like /usr/share/wallpapers? then you can make that the >>default folder to browse in your prefs UI? > Yes. That should be fine. I'll use /usr/share/wallpapers as the default directory in the prefs UI. Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>For the category picker - how much work would it be to maintain both modes and let the user pick in >the prefs? > Not sure. I guess the initial work will be a bit. Thereafter, hopefully, no constant changes should be required to that part. I'll start work and see how far I can take it. Warren Baird-2 wrote: > >>I don't see how to add or remove categories from there - I was able to assign apps to certain >categories, but not edit the list of categories. > Missed that. The new version should resolve the regression. Michael Zanetti wrote: > >>The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't scroll vertically. > I know. But I don't know how to stop that. Michael Zanetti wrote: > >>I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the >>smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. > Can't seem to stop that either. Hmmm. Help Needed! Michael Zanetti wrote: > >>I have also noticed that the toolbar uses resizes all entries according to the >>longest name. > Thanks for the tip. All names are shorter now. New version. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3022613/launcher_0.21_arm.ipk launcher_0.21_arm.ipk * scroller for icons if more than 3 rows * center icons if there are 2 in a row * (re) added edit categories in the toolbar * larger icons for missed calls and sms's -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Launcher-Home-Page-%28alpha%29-Release-0.20-tp2969146p3022613.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20
>>>The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't > scroll vertically. >> > I know. But I don't know how to stop that. > > Michael Zanetti wrote: >> >>>I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the >>>smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled. >> > Can't seem to stop that either. Hmmm. Help Needed! > in python it's[1]: sc = elementary.Scroller(parent) sc.bounce_set(bool X, bool Y) in c (derived from [1], look at the bottom): elm_scroller_bounce_set(self.obj, h_bounce, v_bounce) [1] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-elementary/elementary/elementary.c_elementary_scroller.pxi Hope that helps, Cameron 'Toaster' Frazier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
