Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Mike


If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery 
life, any suggestions?


And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or does openmoko linux 
need to be on the neo/freerunner?


thanks



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Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-06-06 Thread Mark
Ian Stephen ian at tradeswest.ca wrote Sun Jun 1 05:54:23 CEST 2008
>On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote:
>> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery
>> life, any suggestions?
>
>I've got a Nokia N800.  Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some
>things 800 doesn't.
>
>Battery life is from 1 day to 1 week or so depending on how I'm using it.
>Wifi reception is the best of any device I've used.
>2 SD slots that are SDHC compatible so plenty of storage.
>Fits a jacket or shirt pocket just fine.
>
>I use GPE calendar, todo, timesheet; camera, gnumeric and Maemopad+ daily.
>PDF viewer occasionally.  Am very happy with it.  Look forward to getting a
>bluetooth keyboard (perhaps iFrog).
>
>One regret is that I didn't put a screen protector on right away.  Now has a
>scratchy feeling place on screen where I write the most.  Oh, and the
>hand-writing recognition works much better for me than Palm's Grafitti 2
>does.
>
>One gotcha to watch for is that Maemopad+ db main table data is lost if the
>device battery runs out with the application open.  In my case I was able to
>recover the db with data from its backup table using a cli sqlite3 client.
>
>IanS

Actually, I believe the N800 to be far superior to the N810. The N800
has two full-size SD card slots compared with the single mini-SD slot
the N810 has. From what I hear the built-in GPS of the N810 isn't very
sensitive, but even if it were it would be dependent on where you hold
the unit, as opposed to the inexpensive bluetooth GPS receiver that I
have for my N800 that is *extremely* sensitive and can be placed for
optimum reception regardless of where the tablet is. The camera on the
N800 swivels 270 degrees, whereas the N810's is fixed. The only real
advantage the N810 has is the built-in keyboard, but a bluetooth
keyboard (or small USB keyboard) solves that issue (and may be better
because of easier typing and more keys). The only other thing the N810
has that the N800 doesn't (aside from more than double the price) is
an ambient light sensor, which is not a big deal to me.

I can't recommend the InvisibleShield screen protectors enough. I have
never before seen a product so completely fulfill its hype. In
addition to being inexpensive, they are also "permanent", in the sense
that they don't wear out and have to be replaced. Mine looks exactly
the same as the day I installed it.

Mark

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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:39:00 -0400 Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> 
> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery 
> life, any suggestions?

n800/n810. use mamona (which is openembedded based - same base os as openmoko).

> And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or does openmoko linux 
> need to be on the neo/freerunner?

well u need to "port" it to a new device. new xserver (maybe fbdev instead of
xglamo or xati or xomap or) and kernel needs changing - and there will be
device-specific things in the distro - like assuming 480x640 resolution,
bootplash for example would be tied to this or affected by a change, battery
status another, and not to mention needing a different kernel with different
drivers etc., gsm subsystem etc...

it depends what you want to do in the end...

-- 
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread geek
Nokia N810 internet tablet...no openmoko...but mimo...good product with
community support..

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery life,
> any suggestions?
>
> And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or does openmoko linux need
> to be on the neo/freerunner?
>
> thanks
>
>
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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
geek writes:
>Nokia N810 internet tablet...no openmoko...but mimo...good product with
>community support..

But no phone, if I understand correctly.

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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Robert Taylor

Mike, why not consider using the moko smartphone as a pda?

PDA's aren't that much more powerful than the moko thus you won't really 
be running anything but what you run on the smartphone anyway, plus they 
usually have few connectivity routes, extremely short battery lifespans 
and generally they don't fit in your pocket.


Plus the moko will probably morph to include various smartphone form 
factors so that  you will not just get a smartphone but have access to a 
form factor with maybe a foldout thumb keyboard even?


I would put my bets on the moko as a pda killer personally.

- Rob



Mike wrote:


If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery 
life, any suggestions?


And can I run openmoko on it to develop apps, or does openmoko linux 
need to be on the neo/freerunner?


thanks



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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-05-31 Thread Ian Stephen
On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote:
> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery
> life, any suggestions?

I've got a Nokia N800.  Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some 
things 800 doesn't.

Battery life is from 1 day to 1 week or so depending on how I'm using it.
Wifi reception is the best of any device I've used.
2 SD slots that are SDHC compatible so plenty of storage.
Fits a jacket or shirt pocket just fine.

I use GPE calendar, todo, timesheet; camera, gnumeric and Maemopad+ daily.  
PDF viewer occasionally.  Am very happy with it.  Look forward to getting a 
bluetooth keyboard (perhaps iFrog).

One regret is that I didn't put a screen protector on right away.  Now has a 
scratchy feeling place on screen where I write the most.  Oh, and the 
hand-writing recognition works much better for me than Palm's Grafitti 2 
does.

One gotcha to watch for is that Maemopad+ db main table data is lost if the 
device battery runs out with the application open.  In my case I was able to 
recover the db with data from its backup table using a cli sqlite3 client.

IanS

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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-06-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Sunday 01 June 2008 00:39:00 Mike wrote:
> If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery
> life, any suggestions?

Sharp SL-6000 (watch out, there are models without any connectivity, one with 
wifi, and one with bluetooth _and_ wifi).

:M:

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Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Schreiber
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:54:23PM -0700, Ian Stephen wrote:
> On May 31, 2008, Mike wrote:
> > If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery
> > life, any suggestions?
> 
> I've got a Nokia N800.  Much less expensive than the N810, but 810 has some 
> things 800 doesn't.

Key difference, at least for me, is that the N810 has a keyboard. Very
important for me, but YMMV.

> Battery life is from 1 day to 1 week or so depending on how I'm using it.
> Wifi reception is the best of any device I've used.
> 2 SD slots that are SDHC compatible so plenty of storage.

N810 has only one Mini-SDHC slot (in practice that means one uses a
Micro-SDHC card in an adapter in there) and 2 GB of internal (as in:
soldered in) flash card. So far I'm fine with that.

> Fits a jacket or shirt pocket just fine.
> 
> I use GPE calendar, todo, timesheet; camera, gnumeric and Maemopad+ daily.  
> PDF viewer occasionally.  Am very happy with it.  Look forward to getting a 
> bluetooth keyboard (perhaps iFrog).

Xournal is also a very nice application. Another one is fbreader,
turning your PDA into a mobile library.
 
> One regret is that I didn't put a screen protector on right away.  Now has a 
> scratchy feeling place on screen where I write the most.  Oh, and the 
> hand-writing recognition works much better for me than Palm's Grafitti 2 
> does.

I never use the HWR - thats what the keyboard is for ;-)
 
> One gotcha to watch for is that Maemopad+ db main table data is lost if the 
> device battery runs out with the application open.  In my case I was able to 
> recover the db with data from its backup table using a cli sqlite3 client.

*ouch*

Regards,
Alex.
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