Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with Android pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn more about it with time. BUT The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people with more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner guides and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals that I don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you can correct me where I'm doing wrong. * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem The software can be found at the following places: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought it was a program. http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, just. text? http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my neo, so I dont need it again? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead of "Unstable", it's ok, right? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin Kernel module : Only one file? AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? %-| Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. Thanks! Martin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4467028.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Märta schrieb: > * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * > > 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: > > Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu Lets say a computer with linux. It must not be especially Ubuntu. > Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a > kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem Neo-Tools is not only a textfile instead it is a shell-script for linux which should make the flash process more easily. But you won't need it if you do it by hand. U-boot is ok but you could also flash QI instead. But lets say you stay with u-boot. > The software can be found at the following places: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought > it was a program. These are just names for the different versions of ubuntu. When you do "apt-get install dfu-util" you have the right version. > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? Good question. Newer versions have some bugfixes and so on but first try i with your preinstalled version. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead of > "Unstable", it's ok, right? Sure it is ok but beware that shr is constantly updated so even testing could sometimes be a bit unstable. But it is a better starting point than the unstable version. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? If you want to install shr-testing in NAND flash you need the kernel to be flashed into the kernel partition. The corresponding modules are already in the root filesystem which should be flashed to the rootfs partition. > AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. > > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? The commands for flashing the kernel and the rootfs can be found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#Flashing_the_rootfs > Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I > love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw > this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. You love your openmoko but you will throw it into garbage only because you doesn't know how to use it? These statements seems to contradict each other if you ask me. ;) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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hej, before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us know which operating system you are using. dfu-util is a tool. to flash certain devices, besides others the freerunner. almost every linux distribution should include a package of the program. > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I > thought > it was a program. intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid are the names of the latest releases of ubuntu linux, if you don't know, what they are i suspect, the rest of the tutorial will not be of much help to you either. > http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, > just. > text? basically any program is just text -- althgough it might not always be legible ;-) i strongly suspect now, that you are not using linux at all. > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? not sure. iirc, the android freerunner used to have a modified u-boot. > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" > instead of "Unstable", it's ok, right? not necessarily. for a while, "unstable" used to be more stable than "testing". > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? that's the _kernel_, and yes, it is only one file. where does the quote below come from? > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in > the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? > > %-| i can't make much from the last three lines. neotool is basically a nice frontend to dfu-util, i have no idea inhowfar it still works, since it dates from 2008 according to the code at the link above. it should be impossible to trash your fr simply by flashing -- the freerunner has a read only boot environment (fallback) which can be altered only with a so called debug board. what you, in fact, are supposed to flash, is the r/w boot environment (so you can use newer, improved or different boot software) and the area where the operating system lives. so, repeating myself, let us know what os you are using before we can proceed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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To make it easy ina straight forward: I suggest to you to install SHR on sd card. To do this you need: - a microSD card - at least one partition on that card (ext2 ext3). If you buy a musd card just for shr it would be easier just to not messup your current musd that has some android files on (for sure). - download the tar.gz version of testing of shr (if you prefere that one...) - mount on your pc the musd is easier thatn everything and extract on the musd the tar.gz - put the musd in your fr, then press aux button plus power button to enter uboot menu, there with aux button you can select "start from micro sd card" and press power to boot... that's probably all you need (afair) d On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Märta wrote: > > Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with > Android > pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR > as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little > knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone > because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn > more about it with time. > > BUT > > The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people > with > more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner > guides and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals that I > don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you > can correct me where I'm doing wrong. > > > * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID * > > 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need: > > Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu > Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a > kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem > > The software can be found at the following places: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is > intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought > it was a program. > http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, > just. > text? > http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my > neo, so I dont need it again? > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 > SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the "Testing line" instead > of > "Unstable", it's ok, right? > > http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > Kernel module : Only one file? > > AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done. > > This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux > computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the > NEO-tools http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text somewhere? > > %-| > > Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I > love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw > this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help. > > Thanks! > > Martin > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4467028.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!
Hi, I said that I never had Android on my Freerunner so maybe it can cause some issue. But normally the installation on the internal memory it's very simple. Shortly: 1 Take the two files that you wrote in your email. They are fine: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 ( yes, Testing is more stable than unstable :) ) http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ( yes, only one file ) 2 Install DFU-utility software on a Ubuntu (I think you are using it) with this command from the shell: sudo aptitude install dfu-util 3 Enter in root mode in your desktop sudo -s 4 Connect the Neo to your computer via USB. 5 On your Neo: Press and hold AUX button Press the Power button until the boot menu comes up This menu is labelled *** BOOT MENU (NOR) *** http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Menu15.jpg 6 Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin 7 When finished., always in the desktop shell dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D full-om-gta02.jffs2 this operation takes time! 8 Finish! Now you can restart your Neo with SHR ciao Luca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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[cut] > 6 > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin IMHO it is enough to run: # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and nothing more. -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > 6 > > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > IMHO it is enough to run: > # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and > nothing more. not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse dfu-util enough that it says something like "no dfu enabled device detected" which confuses user even more.. checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d 0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user.. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi > before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us > know which operating system you are using. yes. if you're on a mac, things can be slightly simpler. I use openmoko-flasher http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher to flash the 2 mentioned images (jffs2 and bin) to my neo. over usb. in the right order. that was usually all i had to do, if i sticked to the same bootloader. somebody correct me if my memory is wrong. Isn't there a similar wrapper for windows ? $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Wow, many responses fast. I'm very grateful. I will review all responses carefully and come back when I've followed your guidelines. Thanks alot! Martin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4468251.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:38 +0100, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: > > [cut] > > > 6 > > > Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell > > > dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > IMHO it is enough to run: > > # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin > > > > P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and > > nothing more. > > not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my > hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse > dfu-util enough that it says something like "no dfu enabled device > detected" which confuses user even more.. > > checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d > 0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user.. I have a sun usb keyboard that does the same thing - dfu errors off because it see's two devices, or gets confused and gives up. Its reasonably common as Dale found out when he released neotool. Its better to leave it in for the inexperienced as it avoids confusion. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Ok now I'm back. The tips you gave me were very helpful so now I'm a proud SHR Stable-user (what's different with the unstable version anyway?). However there are a few things I need to get fixed before I can use my Freerunner as standard phone, mainly five things. It would be very nice if you could try to give me as easy answers as possible, since my understanding of programming is very limited. 1) Every time I start a call, the Dialogue screen disappears. I don’t know why its this way, is there a way to solve this? As I’ve understand you can modify the Frerunners code by writing scripts into the phones terminal. Is that correct, you don’t need a linux computer to be able to do these tweaks (for example setting the time)? 2) I can only start my FR using the AUX start and selecting boot. When I simply power it on I get a error screen saying: [ 0.00] Unknown boot option `g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11.01:0D:8F´: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option `g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11.01:0D:8F´: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option `g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11.01:0D:8F´: ignoring [ 0.00] Unknown boot option `g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11.01:0D:8F´: ignoring And sometimes it get stuck with the text: JFFS2 warning: (50) jffs2_do_read_inode_internal: Truncating i no #4650 to 137136 bytes failed because it only had 69632 bytes to start with! This is not so important to me since I CAN start using the AUX startup, but it would be interesting to know the reason for this. 3) I have no idea of how I should get access to my uSD card. I’ve put a WAV-file onto it and a JPG picture, I would like these as Ringtone and background picture. How am I supposed to do that? It seems I can’t browse the card but only the Flash memory where I can’t put files. When I for example open InTone and browse for directory, it seems it only shows Flash memory directories. 4) How do I install a new keyboard to the Freerunner? Im interested in the Literki keyboard since it’s made for fingers: http://www.opkg.org/package_232.html . If you have other recommendations im grateful, I’ve read somewhere about a keyboard that saves your used words for faster use (This would be helpful for me since I’ll type everything in Swedish). 5) Is there a way to change the standard SHR screen showing when the FR is locked? It looks ugly and the unlock slide lags. Maybe If I only could change the background picture? Once again, I’m very grateful for all help. Martin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Now-someone-REALLY-has-to-help-me-tp4467028p4756239.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Märta writes: > [ 0.00] Unknown boot option `g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11.01:0D:8F´: > ignoring Sounds normal. You have g_ether as a module so kernel does not recognize the option before the module has been loaded? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Donnerstag, den 18.03.2010, 04:50 -0800 schrieb Märta: > 1) Every time I start a call, the Dialogue screen disappears. I don’t know > why its this way, is there a way to solve this? As I’ve understand you can > modify the Frerunners code by writing scripts into the phones terminal. Is > that correct, you don’t need a linux computer to be able to do these tweaks > (for example setting the time)? Yes, you can. By default you should have an app named 'Terminal' on your ...errr... 'Desktop' after booting up. It's rather inconvenient, so I'd recommend hooking your FR up to a pc via USB and using ssh to connect to it for writing configs or scripts etc. I don't know what you mean by 'Dialogue screen' though. But maybe you're having this problem: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-March/060810.html > 2) I can only start my FR using the AUX start and selecting boot. When I > simply power it on I get a error screen saying: > […] Maybe you don't wait long enough? As already said the g_ether messages are no problem. The jffs message might be a filesystem corruption. > 3) I have no idea of how I should get access to my uSD card. I’ve put a > WAV-file onto it and a JPG picture, I would like these as Ringtone and > background picture. How am I supposed to do that? It seems I can’t browse > the card but only the Flash memory where I can’t put files. When I for > example open InTone and browse for directory, it seems it only shows Flash > memory directories. Isn't it mounted under /media/card ? If not a 'mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card' should do the trick. > 4) How do I install a new keyboard to the Freerunner? Im interested in the > Literki keyboard since it’s made for fingers: > http://www.opkg.org/package_232.html . If you have other recommendations im > grateful, I’ve read somewhere about a keyboard that saves your used words > for faster use (This would be helpful for me since I’ll type everything in > Swedish). Connect your Freerunner to the internet and on a command prompt (Terminal on the phone, or more convenient: ssh over USB) enter 'opkg install http://pvtrace.com/~miki150/literki_0.0.2-r6_armv4t.ipk' (Link taken from the download button on the webpage you posted). To get your freerunner connected via USB check out this wiki article: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking or use Wifi or a GPRS connection or your uSD card calling opkg with the path to the file on the uSD card instead of the URL. HTH Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Märta wrote: > As I’ve understand you can > modify the Frerunners code by writing scripts into the phones terminal. Is > that correct, you don’t need a linux computer to be able to do these tweaks > (for example setting the time)? > While a linux computer is nice to have, it is not necessary. There are several other ways: * Use the phone itself. Run the "terminal" program and use the tiny on-screen keyboard. You can do anything, but that keyboard is perhaps too small for doing much. Setting the time should be ok. * Use the phone itself and the "terminal" program, and a real keyboard. The keyboard can connect via usb or bluetooth. This require some configuration first. * Use a computer that don't run linux. Using windows and putty: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_and_Windows Using a mac: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Dnia 2010-03-18, czw o godzinie 04:50 -0800, Märta pisze: > Ok now I'm back. Hi Märta, > The tips you gave me were very helpful so now I'm a proud > SHR Stable-user ehm, there is no SHR Stable yet, or did I messed something? -- Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
