Pulster dismisses FreeRunner preorders, not TRIsoft agreement (was: Official Reseller)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Op 22-03-08 01:01, Edwin Lock schreef: Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538(german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049(german) Hello Edwin, all, I have the same questions, and would appreciate an official Openmoko answer. However I have a small correction. Your link [2] (Christoph Pulster, Wir vertreiben bereits den Neo1973 commenting on the golem.de article OpenMoko FreeRunner kommt Ende April) does not say that Openmoko Inc. and TRIsoft do not have an agreement. It just says something like the following (and I'm not German, so this is just to get the basic idea across): /---\ We sell the Neo1973 already Good morning Golem. For once don't just pass on press releases unchanged, but also do some research, when you call yourself IT News for professionals. The availability date of the new Freerunner is completely up for grabs [in the stars-- I love German, MK]. Fact is, there are not even prototypes yet. Until something is available that is really usable for the end-user, I will have the summer already again behind me. We have the Neo1973 already in stock and available. I do not take preorders for non-existing devices seriously. When the PDA/smartphone business wouldn't announce so many 'air bubbles', then the anticipation of the patient user would at least often be justified. Shame. Christoph www.pulster.de \---/ For reference, here is my rough translation of the first paragraph of the golem.de article itself (http://www.golem.de/0803/58520.html): /---\ OpenMoko Freerunner arrives end of April At TriSoft one can preorder the Linux smartphone FreeRunner from OpenMoko right now for the price of 399,- Euro. The delivery to developers should follow end of April 2008. The Freerunner is the follow-up of the Neo1973 and has internally been reworked just a little. The devices run on free software, OpenMoko makes the software also available in source code form with documentation, and allows it to be modified. \---/ Hope this helps. Groetjes, Marnix -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH5PTajn9v+6JsL6sRAg45AJ9U1MrHM/g4O9VTXaT9Lr5z3agtCQCg3ApC kK7H3ZZZmKHfZoQQ5Asz0xw= =iVi1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
On Saturday, 22. March 2008, Edwin Lock wrote: Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538(german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049(german) Hello, I have phoned with them some minutes ago - a german free-call number - and they told me exactly that thing. So I can hope that I will hold a freed cellphone at last in my hands - surely for beta-fixing and testing. For my person to say, I use cellphones not so intensive for phoning. I prefer landline instead. So it is okay for me, that it has some alpha/beta-bugs. :) All good work out there! :) Regards, Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
Dear Edwin and Community, First, about Pulster and TRIsoft problem ... I made decision to work with both parties, I allowed TRIsoft to start pre-order business when I met them in Cebit. Besides, Christopher, he is my first partner and we had real business relationship for GTA01, actually he had stock for GTA01 and help me to promote it since end of 2007, I do believe we have press to mention about this stuff last year in CES. So, they all are my partner and also are my friend, I told Chris, keep going the business and have fun with Openmoko, any argument is boring for me. We will release our update partner list and our price policy soon, Openmoko will have more and more business partners in near future. Make business simple and easy is my philosophy, I hope my answer is helpful for you. :-) Openmoko Harry Edwin Lock ??: Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538 (german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049 (german) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
Hi Roland, given the intentional lack of a date from Openmoko officials I am a bit confused by the certainty of the date TRIsoft is advertising. On Saturday 22 March 2008, Roland Häder wrote: I have phoned with them some minutes ago - a german free-call number - and they told me exactly that thing. Apparently this does not work reliably. I just tried that (at ~17:00CEST) with the number 0800 8757638 in Germany and have been told that there is no connection for this number (Keine Verbindung unter dieser Telefonnummer). Cheers Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
@Jan: Of course there is no connection for this number - the number is 0800 87*4* 7638. @Harry: Good to hear that there are two official resalers; hopefully the flaming in the forums will stop. On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Jan Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roland, given the intentional lack of a date from Openmoko officials I am a bit confused by the certainty of the date TRIsoft is advertising. On Saturday 22 March 2008, Roland Häder wrote: I have phoned with them some minutes ago - a german free-call number - and they told me exactly that thing. Apparently this does not work reliably. I just tried that (at ~17:00CEST) with the number 0800 8757638 in Germany and have been told that there is no connection for this number (Keine Verbindung unter dieser Telefonnummer). Cheers Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
given the intentional lack of a date from Openmoko officials I am a bit confused by the certainty of the date TRIsoft is advertising. [cutted] Apparently this does not work reliably. I just tried that (at ~17:00CEST) with the number 0800 8757638 in Germany and have been told that there is no connection for this number (Keine Verbindung unter dieser Telefonnummer). Hmmm, I tried the venity number 0800-TRISOFT and they where there... From my previous mail it was, as I said, some minutes ago. Maybe they have just setup the number? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
On Saturday, 22. March 2008, thomasg wrote: @Jan: Of course there is no connection for this number - the number is 0800 87*4* 7638. Oh, I didn't realize it so quickly. My phone has letters under the numbers printed. Anyway. Let's see what the future delivers to us... :D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Official Reseller
Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538(german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049(german) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
