Re: OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-30 Thread John Lee
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 01:05:11PM +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote:
>> I've now updated MokoMakefile to use these official OpenMoko sites.
>
>
> Great!  Do we just 'make update-makefile update all' to get rolling with 
> the new schema?
>
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
>

I would do a nearly clean build :

make update-makefile
make clobber-openembedded # using the new Makefile now
rm OE.mtn stamps/OE.mtn
make setup update all

It will take a lot of time, so I would do this before I go to sleep.


- John

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Re: OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-30 Thread Jay Vaughan

I've now updated MokoMakefile to use these official OpenMoko sites.



Great!  Do we just 'make update-makefile update all' to get rolling  
with the new schema?


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Re: OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-30 Thread Rod Whitby
John Lee wrote:
> The oe snapshots site:
> 
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/
> 
> The monotone repository:
> 
> monotone.openmoko.org
> 
> I have done various tests on them such as run different versions of
> monotone againest the database files, build from scratch with these
> settings, etc.  There might still be subtle problems in different
> usage scenarios, so please give feedback and I'll fix them asap.

I've now updated MokoMakefile to use these official OpenMoko sites.

Now all default MokoMakefile builds will be building the "known-good"
tested revision that the OpenMoko build manager releases each week.

Just use "make update" as usual to get the latest known-good version.

For those people who wish to continue using the "bleeding-edge" versions
from the OpenEmbedded monotone server directly, you can do:

 make OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org update

to get the very latest changes contributed by the community which have
not been tested by OpenMoko yet.  You must do this every time you
update, or else it will automatically revert to the official server.

-- Rod

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Re: OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-30 Thread John Lee
Hi Rod,

The oe snapshots site:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/

The monotone repository:

monotone.openmoko.org

I have done various tests on them such as run different versions of
monotone againest the database files, build from scratch with these
settings, etc.  There might still be subtle problems in different
usage scenarios, so please give feedback and I'll fix them asap.

- John


On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:14:15PM +1030, Rod Whitby wrote:
> 
> There is one issue which means that MokoMakefile cannot change over to
> using the new area yet.  I have discussed this with John, but am
> reporting here so people don't continually ask me why MokoMakefile
> hasn't changed yet.
> 
> The issue is that new OpenMoko mtn database snapshot area at
>  http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/
> only contains a single unversioned mtn database.
> 
> MokoMakefile currently identifies the user's monotone version, and
> downloads the correctly versioned mtn database from
>  http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/
> (look there to see the naming convention and list of 6 different mtn
> versions that are supported).  Only if it cannot match the exact version
> does it fall-back to using the unversioned snapshot.
> 
> Unless OpenMoko is going to require a specific Linux distribution and
> monotone version for building the OpenMoko distribution, I would prefer
> to wait until OpenMoko replicates this facility for their developers
> before I change the MokoMakefile, otherwise we will have *many* new
> users having problems with monotone database migrations, and negating
> the ease of setup that MokoMakefile currently provides.
> 
> I have given John details on how to do this - I'm sure Graeme or Mickey
> can get the older mtn binaries from Koen to implement it.
> 
> I've asked John to let me know as soon as there are correctly labelled
> versions in http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/, and I will
> immediately update MokoMakefile to use the new area when that happens.
> 
> -- Rod Whitby
> -- MokoMakefile author
> 

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OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-29 Thread Rod Whitby
John Lee wrote:
> The official OpenEmbedded repository to build the OpenMoko
> distribution can be found at monotone.openmoko.org.  If you're using
> MokoMakefile, please refer to
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MonotoneServer#Using_MokoMakefile
> 
> for instructions about how to switch.

There is one issue which means that MokoMakefile cannot change over to
using the new area yet.  I have discussed this with John, but am
reporting here so people don't continually ask me why MokoMakefile
hasn't changed yet.

The issue is that new OpenMoko mtn database snapshot area at
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/
only contains a single unversioned mtn database.

MokoMakefile currently identifies the user's monotone version, and
downloads the correctly versioned mtn database from
 http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/
(look there to see the naming convention and list of 6 different mtn
versions that are supported).  Only if it cannot match the exact version
does it fall-back to using the unversioned snapshot.

Unless OpenMoko is going to require a specific Linux distribution and
monotone version for building the OpenMoko distribution, I would prefer
to wait until OpenMoko replicates this facility for their developers
before I change the MokoMakefile, otherwise we will have *many* new
users having problems with monotone database migrations, and negating
the ease of setup that MokoMakefile currently provides.

I have given John details on how to do this - I'm sure Graeme or Mickey
can get the older mtn binaries from Koen to implement it.

I've asked John to let me know as soon as there are correctly labelled
versions in http://downloads.openmoko.org/OE/snapshots/, and I will
immediately update MokoMakefile to use the new area when that happens.

-- Rod Whitby
-- MokoMakefile author


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