OpenPhonix?

2012-06-12 Thread Nick Sheppard

On 02/06/12 17:36, pike wrote:



... We arent voting,
but if we were, Phonix would be my #1
(phone,unix,phoenix), and Phonux #2
(phone,linux,phoenix).



Actually I agree, OpenPhonix is good, better than OpenPhonux.

It's nearer to phoenix in English AND German (where it can be spelled 
with an o-umlaut instead of oe?) and broadening from linux to *nix in 
general can only be good. NetBSD anyone?  And in the future, maybe those 
new microkernels like L4 and Minix3?  But we do know it will be a *nix 
of some kind.


Also, if I say Phonux and Phonix, I find myself not pronouncing the 
second vowel very clearly. Because it's not stressed it comes out more 
as an uh sound than a clear vowel, and I think someone half-hearing me 
would be more likely to guess ix than ux. So I think the 
pronunciation suggests the spelling better with OpenPhonix, and it's 
easy to remember the correct spelling after only a quick glimpse of the 
word (not true of OpenPhoenux, I think ... :) ).


And, the other way round, I think native speakers of a lot of different 
languages would end up reading OpenPhonix aloud in the same way.  The 
fact that we English-speakers have just found out that we've been 
mispronouncing OpenPhoenux all this time means (I think) that there is 
room for improvement here.


And, to a stranger to the project, it presents the most important 
information first: it's an OpenPhone, using Unix.  Once they learn more, 
the fact that it sounds like phoenix said in German (most 
appropriate!) will emerge like a sort of good aftertaste.


So, we aren't voting, but if we were, I would be switching my vote to 
OpenPhonix.



On 11/06/12 22:58, pike wrote:
 Hi

...

 I feel sort of idiot trying to emphasize how important
 I think this is. But I do. Here I go again.

 It's the first impression. All the connotations that
 bubble up with the name, define, in a split second,
 just how much attention people are going to give it.
 And all those split seconds together could
 make the difference between a thriving userbase
 or a bunch of hardcore hobbyists.

 Both are great goals ofcourse. But if you want to
 change the world fundamentally, take the branding
 seriously all the way. Learning from Apple ?

 $2c,
 *-pike


I agree with all of this.  Words are important, and naming is important. 
 Worth a bit of discussion, anyway.


Nick Sheppard


PS:  Google gives only two hits for openphonix.  One is a misspelling 
for openphonyx, which is in use, and the other seems to be a Twitter id.


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Re: OpenPhonix?

2012-06-12 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Nick Sheppard ns...@attglobal.net writes:
 On 02/06/12 17:36, pike wrote:
  ... We arent voting,
  but if we were, Phonix would be my #1
  (phone,unix,phoenix), and Phonux #2
  (phone,linux,phoenix).

 Actually I agree, OpenPhonix is good, better than OpenPhonux.

 It's nearer to phoenix in English AND German[...]

It's even nearer to phonics, which makes it sound more
to me like an FOSS system for teaching kids to read than a phone

I say just give up on the whole `come up with a name that sounds like
two different words that don't sound each other', and just call it
PiratePhone. Revisions can be designated by different R numbers.

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