Re: Packet encryption possibilities?

[Al Johnson]

If you're talking about adding encryption to the standard GSM voice channel 
then I don't think it'll work for several reasons. The base station decrypts 
the voice data before passing it on, and who knows what it'll go through 
between there and the destination. Also the GSM module does all the 
processing for voice calls, so anything you can do will come before the stock 
compression and encryption.

If you're talking about making an encrypted VoIP then check the archives 
because it's been thoroughly discussed. There's a link to a video 
presentation on exactly that, including why the slow GSM data channel is 
better for voice than the faster GPRS

Don't have an NY Times account.

On Monday 02 July 2007 00:56, Patrick Madden wrote:
> Hi -- I spotted a bit of discussion in the archives on this, but it
> wasn't clear if it would be possible to add in alternate encryption
> algorithms.
>
> I'd like to get access to the voice packets prior to them being sent
> out.  The flow I'm hoping to be able to achieve is
> [speaker] -> [stock compression] -> [MY ENCRYPT] -> cell network ->
> [MY DECRYPT] -> [stock decompression] -> [listener]
>
> It looks like the standard encryption algorithms may have been broken
> (see
>  ex=1335499200&en=aa06d98a600afc6f&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss>),
> so I'm hoping to develop a good alternative.
>
> One of my research interests is encryption, and cell phones clearly
> need some help.  Will hacking along these lines be possible in the
> upcoming release?   The chip sets used in the phone might not expose
> enough to do this, and if it's not possible, I'd like to know early!
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick

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Re: Packet encryption possibilities?

[Gabriel Ambuehl]

On Monday 02 July 2007 01:56:09 Patrick Madden wrote:
> One of my research interests is encryption, and cell phones clearly
> need some help.  Will hacking along these lines be possible in the
> upcoming release?   The chip sets used in the phone might not expose
> enough to do this, and if it's not possible, I'd like to know early!

It should be possible in GSM data mode (which gives you 9600bit/s), but it's 
gonna be expensive on most networks. I doubt ping times are good enough on 
GPRS for it to work.


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Re: Packet encryption possibilities?

[Nick Johnson]

On 7/2/07, Patrick Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

One of my research interests is encryption, and cell phones clearly
need some help.  Will hacking along these lines be possible in the
upcoming release?   The chip sets used in the phone might not expose
enough to do this, and if it's not possible, I'd like to know early!


Reading the archives, the general consensus seems to be that the only
practical way to do this is to make GSM data calls to the recipient,
and put your own compression and encryption on top of that. The
problems with it are that apparrently it has much higher latency, and
the bandwidth provided may not be enough to even make a call.

-Nick Johnson

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Packet encryption possibilities?

[Patrick Madden]

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Hi -- I spotted a bit of discussion in the archives on this, but it  
wasn't clear if it would be possible to add in alternate encryption  
algorithms.


I'd like to get access to the voice packets prior to them being sent  
out.  The flow I'm hoping to be able to achieve is
[speaker] -> [stock compression] -> [MY ENCRYPT] -> cell network ->  
[MY DECRYPT] -> [stock decompression] -> [listener]


It looks like the standard encryption algorithms may have been broken  
(see
),  
so I'm hoping to develop a good alternative.


One of my research interests is encryption, and cell phones clearly  
need some help.  Will hacking along these lines be possible in the  
upcoming release?   The chip sets used in the phone might not expose  
enough to do this, and if it's not possible, I'd like to know early!


Best Regards,
Patrick
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Patrick H. Madden, SUNY Binghamton CSD   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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