QSuunto-Lite version 0.1.0 released

2009-12-22 Thread Christian Rüb
Hallo everybody,

there finally is a release of QSuunto-Lite, a divelog viewing program for 
Suunto dive computers.

What has changed?
 * there is now real data in time/depth graph displayed [4a]
 * you can save settings
 * UI changes
 * Suunto Spdyder does work now as well

To download dives from your DC on your Freerunner, you can find instructions 
here: [1]
If you just want to have a look at some sample dive logs get the package 
divetools-ab-samples from here [2]

The installable package + necessary Qt packages built for SHR-unstable are here 
[2]
Source [3] and Screenshots [4]

For distribution maintainers, a bitbake recipe is also available [5]

Further information can be found on the wiki page [1] - I still want to support 
more (Suunto) dive computers, if someone can help me with logs...

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite
[2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/
[3] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qsuunto-lite;a=summary
[4] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/
[4a] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/qsuunto-lite3.png
[5] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=tree;f=qsuunto-lite;h=b82c1099ac0d2ef93cdf6b7cd016b7abde75b624;hb=HEAD

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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-11-01 Thread Christian Rüb
  On the other hand you can experiment with libdc [3] yourself writing a
  testapp to try the basics - there are already some basic examples in the
  sources.
  
 I compiled libdc and ran the d9 test dump app which resulted in success for
 memory dump as well as sdm dump (I assume the database format?).  This gives
 me hope that we can retrieve the profile!

I built an ipk here [1] and the good news is - the test app runs on the 
Freerunner :)
The bitbake recipe is here [2]
The very good news is - ouput is almost the same as from vyperlink, which means 
I dumped it into a file and opened it in QSuunto-Lite and it could read all 
dive data!

So if you can produce the same for your D9 it shall be easy to integrate this 
into QSuunto-Lite, I just have to modify the testapps from the lib to only 
output the relevant data and add a parser for D9 in QSuunto-Lite + config 
possibility for different DCs.

For now I have added saving and restoring settings to QSuunto-Lite but there is 
no new package yet as there still might come some more little changes.

Can you send me (not to list) a dump from your D9 done with libdivecomputer's 
D9 test app? The relevant part are the the dive dumps (anything between 
device_foreach and before device_dump).

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/libdivecomputer_0.1+svnr300-r1_armv4t.ipk
[2] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=libdivecomputer/libdivecomputer_svn.bb;h=024d59f3975706d4bb72c3240963b1396e29d42d;hb=HEAD

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RE: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-11-01 Thread undrwater

*  I compiled libdc and ran the d9 test dump app which resulted in success
for 
 memory dump as well as sdm dump (I assume the database format?).  This
gives 
 me hope that we can retrieve the profile! 

I built an ipk here [1] and the good news is - the test app runs on the
Freerunner :) 
The bitbake recipe is here [2] 
The very good news is - ouput is almost the same as from vyperlink, which
means I dumped it into a file and opened it in QSuunto-Lite and it could
read all dive data! 

For now I have added saving and restoring settings to QSuunto-Lite but there
is no new package yet as there still might come some more little changes. 

Can you send me (not to list) a dump from your D9 done with
libdivecomputer's D9 test app? The relevant part are the the dive dumps
(anything between device_foreach and before device_dump). 

Cheers, 
 Christian 

[1]
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/libdivecomputer_0.1+svnr300-r1_armv4
t.ipk
[2]
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=libdivecomputer/libdivecomputer
_svn.bb;h=024d59f3975706d4bb72c3240963b1396e29d42d;hb=HEAD

Great news!! :-)  How can I contact you off list?

 

Russell Dwiggins


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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-10-19 Thread Christian Rüb
undrwater wrote:
 
 Christian Rüb wrote:
  
  ...these are different protocols, see here [1]. 
  
 
 I've seen those before...but they mention that d9 fails?

I do not have a D9 to test ;-)

  But you might want to look at divetools-ab (vyperlink.c) [2] sources and
  just rewrite the parts, so it suits the D9 protocol. 
  
 I tried to figure this out, but I'm such a beginner it will take me a while
 to figure out where everything is happening  in vyperlink.c and the sources
 for the below.  I'll continue to look at it, but I hope you can get to it
 soon!  

Well, I hope soo, too. 

  On the other hand you can experiment with libdc [3] yourself writing a
  testapp to try the basics - there are already some basic examples in the
  sources.
  
 I compiled libdc and ran the d9 test dump app which resulted in success for
 memory dump as well as sdm dump (I assume the database format?).  This gives
 me hope that we can retrieve the profile!

indeed - I haven't checked with my Stinger yet though

 
 BTW, I've also let the folks at jdivelog know about divesoftware.org and the
 libs.

They already support some DCs, I am curious about the reply. Jdivelog does UDCF 
import - which makes it more interesting to implement an export in QSuunto-Lite

Cheers,
 Christian

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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-10-16 Thread undrwater



Christian Rüb wrote:
 
 ...these are different protocols, see here [1]. 
 

I've seen those before...but they mention that d9 fails?


 But you might want to look at divetools-ab (vyperlink.c) [2] sources and
 just rewrite the parts, so it suits the D9 protocol. 
 
I tried to figure this out, but I'm such a beginner it will take me a while
to figure out where everything is happening  in vyperlink.c and the sources
for the below.  I'll continue to look at it, but I hope you can get to it
soon!  


 On the other hand you can experiment with libdc [3] yourself writing a
 testapp to try the basics - there are already some basic examples in the
 sources.
 
I compiled libdc and ran the d9 test dump app which resulted in success for
memory dump as well as sdm dump (I assume the database format?).  This gives
me hope that we can retrieve the profile!

BTW, I've also let the folks at jdivelog know about divesoftware.org and the
libs.

Russell Dwiggins
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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-09-22 Thread Christian Rüb
undrwater wrote:

 I'm looking at replacing my Mosquito (mentioned in the other post) with a D9
 (a dive buddy has offered it up at a great price).  Does your new version
 now support the D9?

Lucky you :) No, it does not support D9, these are different protocols, see 
here [1]. But you might want to look at divetools-ab (vyperlink.c) [2] sources 
and just rewrite the parts, so it suits the D9 protocol. Or you can wait until 
I can get back to developing and make some tries with libdc.

On the other hand you can experiment with libdc [3] yourself writing a testapp 
to try the basics - there are already some basic examples in the sources.

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://www.sarnau.info/papers:suunto_protocol
[2] http://www.acs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/download/dive/
[3] http://www.divesoftware.org/libdc/

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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-09-21 Thread undrwater



Christian Rüb wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 QSuunto-Lite is an application to download your logged dives from your
 Suunto dive computer ...
 

I'm looking at replacing my Mosquito (mentioned in the other post) with a D9
(a dive buddy has offered it up at a great price).  Does your new version
now support the D9?
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RE: Scuba divers wanted (Re: QSuunto-Lite)

2009-09-20 Thread undrwater


Thanks for this - especially the lib sounds interesting. Though it might
take a little while till I can back to developing. After my holidays there
is a lot of work to be done... 

Anyway - it would be nice to hear how your Suunto story turns out at the end
:) Have you contacted a nearby Suunto dealer about your TR-PC prob? 

 

Yes indeed! :-)  I was happy to come across that site.  My Suunto has
reached end-of-life.  The contact points inside the case have broken off, so
it will need some soldering or replacement of parts in order to repair.  I
will attempt to do this, but I don't hold out much hope.  Even if I fix it,
I'll use it as a backup, or pay it forward to a buddy or something.

 

I anxiously but patiently await your return to developing.and in the
meantime, I'll look at your source and see if I can learn something from it.

 

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Re: Scuba divers wanted (Re: QSuunto-Lite)

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Rüb
undrwater wrote:
 
 Christian Rüb wrote:
  
  Please see wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite and edit
  if you are also interested in a dive logging application.
  
  
 
 The day my host cable adaptor arrived also heralded the day I discovered my
 mosquito won't go into TR-PC mode. :(  I'm on the search for another Suunto.
 
 While hunting, I found the following site:  http://www.divesoftware.org/
 http://www.divesoftware.org/ 
 
 It includes libs for accessing the protocols of several other dive
 computers, as well as a dive log app written in QT that downloads profiles
 from the D series of Suunto dive compys.  They're looking at integration
 with iPhone (:P), so maybe you can let them know about the moko and your app
 for it.
 
 Russell Dwiggins

Thanks for this - especially the lib sounds interesting. Though it might take a 
little while till I can back to developing. After my holidays there is a lot of 
work to be done...

Anyway - it would be nice to hear how your Suunto story turns out at the end :) 
Have you contacted a nearby Suunto dealer about your TR-PC prob?

Cheers,
 Christian

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Re: Scuba divers wanted (Re: QSuunto-Lite)

2009-09-17 Thread undrwater



Christian Rüb wrote:
 
 Please see wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite and edit
 if you are also interested in a dive logging application.
 
 

The day my host cable adaptor arrived also heralded the day I discovered my
mosquito won't go into TR-PC mode. :(  I'm on the search for another Suunto.

While hunting, I found the following site:  http://www.divesoftware.org/
http://www.divesoftware.org/ 

It includes libs for accessing the protocols of several other dive
computers, as well as a dive log app written in QT that downloads profiles
from the D series of Suunto dive compys.  They're looking at integration
with iPhone (:P), so maybe you can let them know about the moko and your app
for it.

Russell Dwiggins


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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-08-25 Thread Christian Rüb
undrwater wrote:
 
 undrwater wrote:
  
  Whats new?
   * Stylesheet(s)
   * Download via GUI (divetools-ab needed)
   * More settings
  
  
  I WAS diving yesterday, so I will attempt to grab my profiles today or
  tomorrow. :)
  
  Russell Dwiggins
  
 Discovered the usb host adapter I have is for the Zaurus.  Not compatible
 with the Neo.  I've got an order in for an adapter and it's on its way. 
 Will Qsuunto-lite import JDivelog files?

QSuunto-Lite is only a viewer, so it will not support JDivelog files. But for 
its successor (whenever this may be) shall have import and export 
functionality. And JDivelog stores in XML and the dives themselves are stored 
in UDCF format, so it's really likely there will be a way to exchange.

You can see here [1] what is planned. Maybe I will also add reading UDCF to 
QSuunto-Lite, as I will need it for its successor, but that's not a promise!

Initially I hoped the amount of divers would be bigger within OM community and 
one or two would jump in to build a really good divelog app.

I will go on holidays at the end of the week and thus there won't happen 
anything in the code for 3 weeks - enough time for testing ;-)

Cheers,
 Christian

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RE: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-08-24 Thread undrwater



undrwater wrote:
 
 Whats new?
  * Stylesheet(s)
  * Download via GUI (divetools-ab needed)
  * More settings
 
 
 I WAS diving yesterday, so I will attempt to grab my profiles today or
 tomorrow. :)
 
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Discovered the usb host adapter I have is for the Zaurus.  Not compatible
with the Neo.  I've got an order in for an adapter and it's on its way. 
Will Qsuunto-lite import JDivelog files?
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Re: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-08-13 Thread Christian Rüb
 Hi,
 
 QSuunto-Lite is an application to download your logged dives from your Suunto 
 dive computer or view previously dowloaded ones. More info here: [1]
 I hope to find interested people who want to test my new version (before it 
 gets a version number).
 As always you can find prebuild packages in this repo [2] and also new 
 screenshots here [3]
 
 For those of you who do not own a DC or do not have cables/adapters yet, you 
 can use the samples provided in divetools-ab-samples.
 I will also provide a fake download tool to simulate a download soon.
 
 Please send bug reports :)
 
 Planned features are on the wiki page.
 
 Whats new?
  * Stylesheet(s)
  * Download via GUI (divetools-ab needed)
  * More settings
 
 Cheers,
  Christian
 
 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite
 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
 [3] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/

Well, seems like all divers are currently diving. Anyway, I have uploaded 
vyperdummy to the repo [1], so this can be used to fake output as produced by 
vyperlink from divetools-ab.
So you do not need any equipment but your Freerunner to run this program. I do 
not have any dependencies in QSuunto-Lite yet concerning divetools-ab, 
divetools-ab-samples or vyperdummy - so get which ever you want. 
Source available here: [2]

[1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/
[2] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=vyperdummy/files/vyperdummy.c;h=7bc1722c20e58411d737a5411e6f369713033097;hb=HEAD

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RE: QSuunto-Lite new version - divers and non-divers wanted

2009-08-13 Thread Russell Dwiggins
 Whats new?
  * Stylesheet(s)
  * Download via GUI (divetools-ab needed)
  * More settings


I WAS diving yesterday, so I will attempt to grab my profiles today or
tomorrow. :)

Russell Dwiggins


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Scuba divers wanted (Re: QSuunto-Lite)

2009-07-19 Thread Christian Rüb
Please see wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QSuunto-Lite and edit if 
you are also interested in a dive logging application.

Thank you.

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Re: QSuunto-Lite

2009-07-10 Thread Joop Boonen
Is/will QSuunto-Lite a KDE program i.e. will it also run on kde4?

Is some qSuunto-Lite code already available.

(I have a Suunto Cobra).

Regards,

Joop.

On Thu, July 9, 2009 8:31 pm, Christian Rüb wrote:
 Hi,

 glad someone is interested in this one as I want to (re)concentrate on it
 again.

 You can use divetools-ab to download via USB serial (see my little patch
 here [1]) - the package is already capable of using /dev/ttyUSB0
 You need to switch to host mode and have a special adapter for your
 regular USB plug to fit into the mini USB (~ €1.5 on ebay).
 Or you download them on your PC with divetools-ab and upload just the
 file. QSuunto-Lite can only _display_ information from file _not_ download
 itself.
 These features are planned for the next dive program which will also not
 be Suunto specific and hopefully get GPS integration and stuff - but this
 is still a long way...

 Next (and probably last) feature for QSuunto-Lite will be to display the
 dive profile graphically.

 I am not planning to do it in elmentary as it was my first real program in
 C++ and QT and thus also meant to learn it. But for the next program maybe
 it will be possible to seperate GUI and logic enough, so there could be a
 QT (e.g. for Desktop PCs) and an elementary GUI. My primary target is the
 above mentioned feature for QSuunto-Lite and then getting the new dive
 logging application on the way.

 Concering QSuunto-Lite - make sure you have one of the older Suuntos that
 are compatible with divetools-ab [2]. Newer Suuntos are also planned to be
 supported in the new app.

 [1]
 http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=divetools-ab/files/001_usbserial.patch
 [2] a) http://www.acs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/dive/divetools/index.html
   b)  http://www.sarnau.info/papers:suunto_protocol see Vyper, Spyder,
 etc.

 Hope this helps.

 Cheers,
  Christian

 Thanks for this!

 Questions:
 * What are the features you're currently working on?
 * This requires that the FR is in host mode to download from the dive
 computer, correct?
 * As asked earlier, any chance of porting to elementary rather than QT?

 Now I can't wait to get my phone back from buzz fix!

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Re: QSuunto-Lite

2009-07-10 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi,


 Is/will QSuunto-Lite a KDE program i.e. will it also run on kde4?

No it is not KDE, but there is no problem running it under KDE4.


 Is some qSuunto-Lite code already available.

Yes, see here:
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=qdivelog;a=summary

 (I have a Suunto Cobra).

 Regards,

 Joop.


Cheers,
 Christian

 On Thu, July 9, 2009 8:31 pm, Christian Rüb wrote:
  Hi,
 
  glad someone is interested in this one as I want to (re)concentrate on it
  again.
 
  You can use divetools-ab to download via USB serial (see my little patch
  here [1]) - the package is already capable of using /dev/ttyUSB0
  You need to switch to host mode and have a special adapter for your
  regular USB plug to fit into the mini USB (~ €1.5 on ebay).
  Or you download them on your PC with divetools-ab and upload just the
  file. QSuunto-Lite can only _display_ information from file _not_
  download itself.
  These features are planned for the next dive program which will also not
  be Suunto specific and hopefully get GPS integration and stuff - but this
  is still a long way...
 
  Next (and probably last) feature for QSuunto-Lite will be to display the
  dive profile graphically.
 
  I am not planning to do it in elmentary as it was my first real program
  in C++ and QT and thus also meant to learn it. But for the next program
  maybe it will be possible to seperate GUI and logic enough, so there
  could be a QT (e.g. for Desktop PCs) and an elementary GUI. My primary
  target is the above mentioned feature for QSuunto-Lite and then getting
  the new dive logging application on the way.
 
  Concering QSuunto-Lite - make sure you have one of the older Suuntos that
  are compatible with divetools-ab [2]. Newer Suuntos are also planned to
  be supported in the new app.
 
  [1]
  http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=divetools-ab/files/001_usbse
 rial.patch [2] a)
  http://www.acs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/dive/divetools/index.html b) 
  http://www.sarnau.info/papers:suunto_protocol see Vyper, Spyder, etc.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Cheers,
   Christian
 
  Thanks for this!
 
  Questions:
  * What are the features you're currently working on?
  * This requires that the FR is in host mode to download from the dive
  computer, correct?
  * As asked earlier, any chance of porting to elementary rather than QT?
 
  Now I can't wait to get my phone back from buzz fix!
 
  Russell Dwiggins
 
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QSuunto-Lite

2009-07-09 Thread Russell Dwiggins
Thanks for this!

Questions:
* What are the features you're currently working on?
* This requires that the FR is in host mode to download from the dive
computer, correct?
* As asked earlier, any chance of porting to elementary rather than QT?

Now I can't wait to get my phone back from buzz fix!

Russell Dwiggins

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And an app for my dive computer!!  Fantastic! :)

Russell Dwiggins
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(562)761-1819
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sorry about this...

here you go:

http://openmoko.senfdax.de/screenshots/

 Awesome, this sounds like something I'll be using soon. I'll test it
 soon but as Sven already said, a screenshot would be appreciated!

 r

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sven Klompm...@klomp.eu wrote:
  Hi Christian,
 
  good to hear that the idea isn't dead! Looks far more solid than my few
  lines of code :-) I will give it a try this weekend. In the meantime,
  screenshots would be very interesting...
 
  Sven
 
  On Thursday 09 July 2009 00:00:52 Christian Rüb wrote:
  Hi,
 
  a while ago Sven send us his scripts to store places and some info and
  send all this to a server which then creates a kml file. [0]
 
  I made a litte GUI for this (actually it is more a rewrite ;-)) that
you
  can find here:
 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555
 cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk
 
  It also contains a sample script to send you data to your web server
via
  curl. To really use this you need to set up the corresponding CGIs on
  your server to receive your diary file and and another one to make the
  kml download for you visitors. You can find examples (they are a point
  to start - nothing more) in the doc package [2] or view/download them
  from the git repo [3].
 
  For distribution integration, here is my bb recipe [4]
 
  [0]
 
http://n2.nabble.com/Stress-test-of-my-Freerunner-tp3038658p3045050.html
  [1]
 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555
 cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk [2]
 
http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary-doc_0.0+git20+3d7fe
 3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk [3]
  http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary
  [4]
 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob_plain;f=travel-diary/travel-d
 iary_git.bb;hb=HEAD
 
  Feedback and questions welcome.
 
  Cheers,
   Christian
 
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QSuunto-Lite

2009-07-09 Thread Christian Rüb
Hi,

glad someone is interested in this one as I want to (re)concentrate on it again.

You can use divetools-ab to download via USB serial (see my little patch here 
[1]) - the package is already capable of using /dev/ttyUSB0
You need to switch to host mode and have a special adapter for your regular USB 
plug to fit into the mini USB (~ €1.5 on ebay).
Or you download them on your PC with divetools-ab and upload just the file. 
QSuunto-Lite can only _display_ information from file _not_ download itself.
These features are planned for the next dive program which will also not be 
Suunto specific and hopefully get GPS integration and stuff - but this is still 
a long way...

Next (and probably last) feature for QSuunto-Lite will be to display the dive 
profile graphically.

I am not planning to do it in elmentary as it was my first real program in C++ 
and QT and thus also meant to learn it. But for the next program maybe it will 
be possible to seperate GUI and logic enough, so there could be a QT (e.g. for 
Desktop PCs) and an elementary GUI. My primary target is the above mentioned 
feature for QSuunto-Lite and then getting the new dive logging application on 
the way.

Concering QSuunto-Lite - make sure you have one of the older Suuntos that are 
compatible with divetools-ab [2]. Newer Suuntos are also planned to be 
supported in the new app.

[1] 
http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob;f=divetools-ab/files/001_usbserial.patch
[2] a) http://www.acs.uni-duesseldorf.de/~becka/dive/divetools/index.html
  b)  http://www.sarnau.info/papers:suunto_protocol see Vyper, Spyder, etc.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
 Christian

 Thanks for this!

 Questions:
 * What are the features you're currently working on?
 * This requires that the FR is in host mode to download from the dive
 computer, correct?
 * As asked earlier, any chance of porting to elementary rather than QT?

 Now I can't wait to get my phone back from buzz fix!

 Russell Dwiggins

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RE: QSuunto-Lite

2009-07-09 Thread Russell Dwiggins
 glad someone is interested in this one as I want to (re)concentrate on it
 again.
Happy to make you glad. ;)

 QSuunto-Lite can only _display_ information from file _not_ download
itself.
 These features are planned for the next dive program which will also not
be Suunto specific and hopefully get GPS integration and stuff - but this
is still a long way...
Sounds interesting.  Do you use SAC where you are?

 Next (and probably last) feature for QSuunto-Lite will be to display the
dive profile graphically.
The screenshots look like you've at least got this started, yes?

 I am not planning to do it in elmentary as it was my first real program in
C++ and QT and thus also meant to learn it. 
Quick question: how hard would it be to port to arm5vte?  I'm thinking
Zaurus.

 Newer Suuntos are also planned to be supported in the new app.
I have a Mosquito, so no problem, I'm sure.  Do you have the protocols for
the newer computers?

Russell Dwiggins

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