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On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks alot for your attentions ; So there is a persian layer yes ?so is not possible to change layer in another way except input methode suchlike a command or a script ? I'll be thankfull if anyone answer the above question ? and 2- Is arabic ready and complete ? Yes, the Arabic keyboard layout works, but you have to install a package like so: opkg install http://www.opkg.org/packages/illume-keyboards-arabic_0.1_armv4t.ipk However, when writing an SMS the letters don't connect with each other (as is standard with the Arabic alphabet). This might just be a problem with the way my Freerunner displays fonts. The SMS you send will probably look fine on your friend's telephone. There is a Persian keyboard layout listed at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume but the link is broken. Hopefully someone else on this mailing list will know where it can be found. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attention ; Would you send a farsi sms to me ? to this number 00989131561030 . To know if sms will look fine here or not . Regards dehqan On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Ben Wonglists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks alot for your attentions ; So there is a persian layer yes ?so is not possible to change layer in another way except input methode suchlike a command or a script ? I'll be thankfull if anyone answer the above question ? and 2- Is arabic ready and complete ? Yes, the Arabic keyboard layout works, but you have to install a package like so: opkg install http://www.opkg.org/packages/illume-keyboards-arabic_0.1_armv4t.ipk However, when writing an SMS the letters don't connect with each other (as is standard with the Arabic alphabet). This might just be a problem with the way my Freerunner displays fonts. The SMS you send will probably look fine on your friend's telephone. There is a Persian keyboard layout listed at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume but the link is broken. Hopefully someone else on this mailing list will know where it can be found. --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thanks alot for your attention ; Would you send a farsi sms to me ? to this number 00989131561030 . To know if sms will look fine here or not . Okay, I've sent you an SMS. However, I don't know if my carrier (T-mobile) allows me to send SMS outside of the United States. Please let us know if you receive the message and if it looks okay. Thanks, --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net writes: Thanks alot for your attention ; Would you send a farsi sms to me ? to this number 00989131561030 . To know if sms will look fine here or not . Okay, I've sent you an SMS. However, I don't know if my carrier (T-mobile) allows me to send SMS outside of the United States. Please let us know if you receive the message and if it looks okay. FYI that phone number should have been specified as +989131561030 (the only proper so-called international format). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:52 AM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; Input method just means a way of typing characters that are not on your keyboard. For example, in Debian GNU/Linux, one can run this command to use a standard US keyboard to type Persian[1] using the Iranian standard for keyboards[2]: setxkbmap -v -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us,ir -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -option grp_led:caps When I run that on my desktop computer, I am then able to hit ALT+SHIFT to toggle between Farsi and English input. Now when I type ABCabc123 on my keyboard I get ؤژشذز۱۲۳. Of course, that doesn't help you on the Freerunner, which doesn't have a physical keyboard. Someone (perhaps you?) needs to design a Farsi onscreen keyboard. Another person on this thread said that it was relatively easy, but I don't know having never done it. So there is a persian layer yes ?so is not possible to change layer in another way except input methode suchlike a command or a script ? I'll be thankfull if anyone answer the above question ? and 2- Is arabic ready and complete ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The name Of God Thanks alot for your attentoins ; On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Ken Youngr...@cfa.harvard.edu wrote: dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I'm not programmer and maybe can not do anything for that . I think it is very unlikely that you will be able to get an Openmoko phone to work for you with Farsi text unless you able to do some programming, or at least port some code. (Afsoos mikhoram!) I was c++ PHP programmer before but now i'm not ; anda should be someone a pro programmer to use openmoko ? (chera afsoos?) SHR supports UTF-8 and RTL languages. Isn't that enough? How about keyboard ?Is it possible to use farsi or at least arabic key board without problem ? Of course, I say partially tested, because I didn't try out an input method. If someone could do that, I'd be curious to know if it works. By the way, I believe SCIM can handle Persian transliteration from a QWERTY keyboard, so that might be a quick work around until someone makes a Farsi keyboard what is input method ?so how did you send that message ? you can test with arabic keyboard . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:28 PM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: I was a c++ PHP programmer before but now i'm not ; and should someone be a pro programmer to use openmoko ? You do not need to be a professional programmer to use the Freerunner. How about keyboard? Is it possible to use farsi or at least arabic key board without problem? That's something I don't know. You may have to create one yourself. so how did you send that message ? you can test with arabic keyboard . I did not type in the message. Instead I used a web browser to view a page that was written in Farsi, selected some text, copied it, and then pasted the text into an SMS message to myself. what is input method ? Input method just means a way of typing characters that are not on your keyboard. For example, in Debian GNU/Linux, one can run this command to use a standard US keyboard to type Persian[1] using the Iranian standard for keyboards[2]: setxkbmap -v -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us,ir -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -option grp_led:caps When I run that on my desktop computer, I am then able to hit ALT+SHIFT to toggle between Farsi and English input. Now when I type ABCabc123 on my keyboard I get ؤژشذز۱۲۳. Of course, that doesn't help you on the Freerunner, which doesn't have a physical keyboard. Someone (perhaps you?) needs to design a Farsi onscreen keyboard. Another person on this thread said that it was relatively easy, but I don't know having never done it. --Ben [1] I copied the setxkbmap example from http://faculty.washington.edu/heer/enablingarabic.htm , with the slight modification that I changed the layout from us,ar to us,ir. That is, I'm using the Iranian layout instead of the Arabic. [2] ISIRI 2901:1994 http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/keyboards/persian.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Saturday 06 June 2009 10:29:46 Ben Wong wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:28 PM, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: I was a c++ PHP programmer before but now i'm not ; and should someone be a pro programmer to use openmoko ? You do not need to be a professional programmer to use the Freerunner. Indeed. To add up on this, the whole idea of the freesmartphone.org framework we use on SHR and Openmoko 2009.x (and some other distros) is to provide high level abstractions for you to make programming simple. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 6/6/09, Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 21:25, Ken Youngr...@cfa.harvard.edu wrote: dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I'm not programmer and maybe can not do anything for that . I think it is very unlikely that you will be able to get an Openmoko phone to work for you with Farsi text unless you able to do some programming, or at least port some code. (Afsoos mikhoram!) Ken Young SHR supports UTF-8 and RTL languages. Isn't that enough? I just partially tested this out and, yes, Farsi SMS can be sent and received with SHR. Now, I don't speak Persian, so I just cut and pasted a bit of Obama's Nowruz address from the web (via Midori). The SMS sending program doesn't have a Paste menu item, but Ctrl+V works. Although the text was left justified, the characters were received in the proper right-to-left order. Of course, I say partially tested, because I didn't try out an input method. If someone could do that, I'd be curious to know if it works. By the way, I believe SCIM can handle Persian transliteration from a QWERTY keyboard, so that might be a quick work around until someone makes a Farsi keyboard. --Ben P.S. This is what I sent: سخنان پرزیدنت باراک اوباما جشن نوروز واشنگتن دی سی ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) Oh, neat. That's the way I had expected it to work. I think there may be a small bug. If I press in the empty part of the text box, nothing happens. I had to click very close to the insertion cursor to make the menu pop up. I'm surprised the text box widget doesn't treat any blank space at the end as being the same as the very last character of text. Is this a known bug/feature? Thanks for the tip! --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Well, it works good for me ;x Do you have latest -unstable? On 6/6/09, Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote: You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) Oh, neat. That's the way I had expected it to work. I think there may be a small bug. If I press in the empty part of the text box, nothing happens. I had to click very close to the insertion cursor to make the menu pop up. I'm surprised the text box widget doesn't treat any blank space at the end as being the same as the very last character of text. Is this a known bug/feature? Thanks for the tip! --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it works good for me ;x Do you have latest -unstable? Ah, that's my problem. I'm using shr-testing. Thanks, again! --Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; Input method just means a way of typing characters that are not on your keyboard. For example, in Debian GNU/Linux, one can run this command to use a standard US keyboard to type Persian[1] using the Iranian standard for keyboards[2]: setxkbmap -v -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us,ir -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -option grp_led:caps When I run that on my desktop computer, I am then able to hit ALT+SHIFT to toggle between Farsi and English input. Now when I type ABCabc123 on my keyboard I get ؤژشذز۱۲۳. Of course, that doesn't help you on the Freerunner, which doesn't have a physical keyboard. Someone (perhaps you?) needs to design a Farsi onscreen keyboard. Another person on this thread said that it was relatively easy, but I don't know having never done it. So there is a persian layer yes ?so is not possible to change layer in another way except input methode suchlike a command or a script ? You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) No ,messages should be typed whenever is needed and often can not be ready beforehand. Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 22:22, a dehqandehqa...@gmail.com wrote: You can copy'n'paste in messages app. Just long press in place, where you want to select, cut, copy or paste :) No ,messages should be typed whenever is needed and often can not be ready beforehand. I mean copying and pasting in general, as I answered to this: The SMS sending program doesn't have a Paste menu item, but Ctrl+V works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second if yes ,which one of android , shr ,debian , qtopia are better for these needs ? 2-Where can Freerunner be bought with minimum price ,in europ and asia ? 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR ? How about sending and receiving sms in persian language (farsi) on FR ? ًRegards dehqan On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: A few clarifications inline below: On Thursday 04 June 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote: 1. OM phones and their software are completely open source, so they can be hacked but not like motorolas. You can edit the source codes and complie as you see fit. The hardware schematics and component placement are open too, so they even make it easy to hack the hardware. The bootloader is designed to allow new firmware to be flashed easily, and to boot from the SD card. 2. Android doesn't work completely; The open parts of android mostly work, and work is in progress to fix the bits that don't. You can check the changelogs here: http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files Some of the android APIs, and apps that people think of as part of android, are closed and AFAIK won't run unless Google open them, or possibly recompiles them for armv4t 4. The phone can be dualbooted, but you're going to need a large enough microSD card to hold all the distros. I'm quad- or quin-booting, I forget which, with android in NAND and 3 or 4 others on an 8GB SD-card. That should be plenty big enough for android, qtopia and debian. AFAIK, that's all true, but I've been wrong before. ;) Me too ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com: Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second if yes ,which one of android , shr ,debian , qtopia are better for these needs ? It's good that you can just buy it and try yourself - but I'd think at least OM2009 should be able to do it. 2-Where can Freerunner be bought with minimum price ,in europ and asia ? You might again want to compare, ther's a list of distributors at openmoko.com 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR ? I can't see why couldn't it be done, actually I think someone have done it already. How about sending and receiving sms in persian language (farsi) on FR ? If cyrillic / russian works, I can't see why persian/farsi couldn't be implemented, unless it already works. please have a look at wiki.openmoko.org and also the mailing list archives to find more information on what's done and so on.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attention 2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com: Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second if yes ,which one of android , shr ,debian , qtopia are better for these needs ? It's good that you can just buy it and try yourself - but I'd think at least OM2009 should be able to do it. when someone here ask question ,he/she needs other experiences before buying .In Iran if i bought it and then it did not fulfill needs who will buy that from me ?i can say maybe no one in iran use openmoko phone . so i'll be thankfull someone answer exacltly . 2-Where can Freerunner be bought with minimum price ,in europ and asia ? You might again want to compare, ther's a list of distributors at openmoko.com yes there is a page : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors But i was interested if there is a seller that sells FR less than those prices ? anda it is probable those prices have been changed ,isnt it ? 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR ? I can't see why couldn't it be done, actually I think someone have done it already. Whould let me know who had done that ?any link ?where can be that work be found ? How about sending and receiving sms in persian language (farsi) on FR ? If cyrillic / russian works, I can't see why persian/farsi couldn't be implemented, unless it already works. My problem is that in iran i dont think anyone else bought FR ,so how can i be sure it supports persian in sms ? please have a look at wiki.openmoko.org and also the mailing list archives to find more information on what's done and so on.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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SNIP 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR ? I can't see why couldn't it be done, actually I think someone have done it already. Whould let me know who had done that ?any link ?where can be that work be found ? Perhaps you need to make a bit more clear what you mean with stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR I use my FR as a modem/router for my PC. so i connect the FR to the GPRS network of my GSM provider, connect my FR to my PC over bluetooth and surf on the internet on my PC. And read mail etc. If that is what you want, then yes, it is possible. Kind regards, Ed SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Friday 05 June 2009, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? Sound is generally equivalent to other phones I have used, but changing the volume settings if the provided ones don't suit you is not simple yet. There are a few problems to be aware of with sound too: * Buzz - Under some circumstances the person at the other end of the call may hear buzz as well as your voice. This can vary from quiet to loud. There is a fix for this on the handset mic, but not for the wired headset. You should check with the reseller that you are buying one with the fix applied. * Weak bass on wired headset - this is not a problem for voice, but isn't so good for music. A workaround for the wired headset problems is to use a bluetooth headset, but AFAIK none of the distros has a GUI for this yet. The current distros generally send and receive calls and SMS without too many problems, though bugs do crop up from time to time as some of the software is changing quickly. Some people are happy to use it as an everyday phone, while for others it is missing features they consider vital. There is no general agreement on which is best, though Qtopia is probably most similar to a conventional phone. If you are expecting something that has a polished interface and behaves like a conventional smartphone you will be disappointed. If you want a small handheld computer with phone capabilities and an unprecedented level of control, but which requires some dedication to get the best out of, you will probably be happy. I can't comment on whether it is usable with farsi, but it is possible nobody has tried. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second if yes ,which one of android , shr ,debian , qtopia are better for these needs ? 2-Where can Freerunner be bought with minimum price ,in europ and asia ? 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to p c by bluetooth by FR ? How about sending and receiving sms in persian language (farsi) on FR ? There general problem with RTL languages (Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic) in all illume based distros (OM2009 SHR, FSO), it's being solved but can't say where this work will finished. Debian have decent support for Farsi AFAIK. But I dont know about telephony apps. For sending SMS/E-mail you have to use Farsi onscreen keyboard, I havn't seen one, but it's relatively easy to make one. Regards, Evgeniy. -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your exact attentions ; Yes kapetein that was the need . On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Friday 05 June 2009, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? Sound is generally equivalent to other phones I have used, but changing the volume settings if the provided ones don't suit you is not simple yet. There are a few problems to be aware of with sound too: * Buzz - Under some circumstances the person at the other end of the call may hear buzz as well as your voice. This can vary from quiet to loud. There is a fix for this on the handset mic, but not for the wired headset. You should check with the reseller that you are buying one with the fix applied. * Weak bass on wired headset - this is not a problem for voice, but isn't so good for music. A workaround for the wired headset problems is to use a bluetooth headset, but AFAIK none of the distros has a GUI for this yet. ok no problem with not being gui . The current distros generally send and receive calls and SMS without too many problems, though bugs do crop up from time to time as some of the software is changing quickly. Some people are happy to use it as an everyday phone, while for others it is missing features they consider vital. There is no general agreement on which is best, though Qtopia is probably most similar to a conventional phone. If you are expecting something that has a polished interface and behaves like a conventional smartphone you will be disappointed. If you want a small handheld computer with phone capabilities and an unprecedented level of control, but which requires some dedication to get the best out of, you will probably be happy. no gui is not important for me ,just there is need some time in day to have safe call ,send and rec sms and voice . but another question ,how about androide ?koolu has been installed on it ... anda how about price ,what do you think ,will it's price decrease ? where can Fr with min price be found ?under 330$ ? I can't comment on whether it is usable with farsi, but it is possible nobody has tried. yes but no problem if openmoko will be better and stable in future . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name Of God Thanks alot ; Isn't there arabic keyboard else ? would you tell what are the problems ? Now is it possible to send arabic or farsi sms or not ? I'm not programmer and maybe can not do anything for that . Regards dehqan On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburgnad@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second if yes ,which one of android , shr ,debian , qtopia are better for these needs ? 2-Where can Freerunner be bought with minimum price ,in europ and asia ? 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to p c by bluetooth by FR ? How about sending and receiving sms in persian language (farsi) on FR ? There general problem with RTL languages (Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic) in all illume based distros (OM2009 SHR, FSO), it's being solved but can't say where this work will finished. Debian have decent support for Farsi AFAIK. But I dont know about telephony apps. For sending SMS/E-mail you have to use Farsi onscreen keyboard, I havn't seen one, but it's relatively easy to make one. Regards, Evgeniy. -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 21:25, Ken Youngr...@cfa.harvard.edu wrote: dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I'm not programmer and maybe can not do anything for that . I think it is very unlikely that you will be able to get an Openmoko phone to work for you with Farsi text unless you able to do some programming, or at least port some code. (Afsoos mikhoram!) Ken Young SHR supports UTF-8 and RTL languages. Isn't that enough? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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In The Name of God I'll be so thankfull if you guide ; 1-Is openmoko firmware protected and should be hacked like motorola phones to read mpkg files ? 2-Does android work completely on neo 1973 ?how about qtopia ? 3-where can neo 1973 be found to buy while it has been sold out ?in europe or in asia ?and what is it's price ? 4-Can we have android,qtopia,debian beside each other on openmoko phones ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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1. OM phones and their software are completely open source, so they can be hacked but not like motorolas. You can edit the source codes and complie as you see fit. 2. Android doesn't work completely; Qt Extended Improved as I believe it's called now works about as well as anything else AFAIK. I don't use it, so I'm not sure. 3. The Neo 1973 is old, and I don't know of any retailers carrying it. Now we use the Freerunner. Retailers for it can be found at openmoko.com 4. The phone can be dualbooted, but you're going to need a large enough microSD card to hold all the distros. AFAIK, that's all true, but I've been wrong before. ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..
A few clarifications inline below: On Thursday 04 June 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote: 1. OM phones and their software are completely open source, so they can be hacked but not like motorolas. You can edit the source codes and complie as you see fit. The hardware schematics and component placement are open too, so they even make it easy to hack the hardware. The bootloader is designed to allow new firmware to be flashed easily, and to boot from the SD card. 2. Android doesn't work completely; The open parts of android mostly work, and work is in progress to fix the bits that don't. You can check the changelogs here: http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files Some of the android APIs, and apps that people think of as part of android, are closed and AFAIK won't run unless Google open them, or possibly recompiles them for armv4t 4. The phone can be dualbooted, but you're going to need a large enough microSD card to hold all the distros. I'm quad- or quin-booting, I forget which, with android in NAND and 3 or 4 others on an 8GB SD-card. That should be plenty big enough for android, qtopia and debian. AFAIK, that's all true, but I've been wrong before. ;) Me too ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
