Re: GTA02 preorder please?

[Christ van Willegen]

On Jan 22, 2008 2:24 PM, Ole Tange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/22/08, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have done 5-10 talks on OpenMoko with more coming. After each talk
> most of the audience is ready to buy (guesstimate in total: 500
> handsets). I will not be surprised if FIC yet again underestimates how
> many handsets should be build in the first run. The pre-order could at
> least give an idea of that (plus I would have a pre-order URL to point
> to in my presentation).

At Fosdem (the Free and Open Software Developers European Meeting)
there will be about 1500 people that are enthousiastic about open hardware
and open software. I'd guess that if you'd be there with 300-500 handsets,
most would be gone (sold) at the end of the weekend.

Christ van Willegen
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Re: GTA02 preorder please?

[Ole Tange]

On 1/22/08, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tim Murphy wrote:
> >
> > I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com
> >  to add a preorder form for stable developer
> > hardware platform.
>
> I'm researching this within the company. I don't have an answer yet, but
> I would agree with Tim, that it is unlikely that we will be able to set
> up a pre-order system. It's not just an issue of the CC provider, but
> rather with laws that prevent charging a credit card until the item
> purchased has shipped.

As a former employed at the Danish Consumer Agency I can confirm this
is the law in Denmark, too.

Would it be hard just to postpone the charging of the creditcard until
the order has shipped? (All Danish web shops do this. If an item is
temporarily out of stock your credit card will not be charged until
the item is in stock and shipped to you).

> The good news is that we intend to build many more than before, so that
> pre-order won't be necessary.

I have done 5-10 talks on OpenMoko with more coming. After each talk
most of the audience is ready to buy (guesstimate in total: 500
handsets). I will not be surprised if FIC yet again underestimates how
many handsets should be build in the first run. The pre-order could at
least give an idea of that (plus I would have a pre-order URL to point
to in my presentation).


/Ole

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Re: GTA02 preorder please?

[Michael Shiloh]

Tim Murphy wrote:



 


I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com
 to add a preorder form for stable developer
hardware platform. Something what they would consider a release
candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally
use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. 



This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can 
chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't 
allow them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. 

 Is it possible, then, to have a preorder list that would guarantee 
getting the neo in the first shipment, with payments due when shipping 
commences?



I'm researching this within the company. I don't have an answer yet, but 
I would agree with Tim, that it is unlikely that we will be able to set 
up a pre-order system. It's not just an issue of the CC provider, but 
rather with laws that prevent charging a credit card until the item 
purchased has shipped.


The good news is that we intend to build many more than before, so that 
pre-order won't be necessary.


I'll let you know when I get the facts.

Michael

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Re: GTA02 preorder please?

[Jay Vaughan]

This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people  
can chime in here, but I think that their current system/CC  
provider doesn't allow them to accept orders on products that  
aren't shipping.





yeah, lets just have a pre-order list so that we can sign up for it  
and be absolutely sure that we'll get the news as soon as things are  
ready for a real order.


;
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Jay Vaughan





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RE: GTA02 preorder please?

[Tim Murphy]

 

I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for
stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a
release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally
use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required. 


This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime
in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow
them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping. 

 Is it possible, then, to have a preorder list that would guarantee getting
the neo in the first shipment, with payments due when shipping commences?
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Re: GTA02 preorder please?

[Gerald A]

On Jan 21, 2008 11:34 AM, Breakable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I understand GTA00 and GTA01 will not ever be a usable platform due to
> hardware issues.


I'm not sure this is true for the GTA01 -- but it remains to be seen.


> I would like to propose asking the openmoko.com to add a preorder form for
> stable developer hardware platform. Something what they would consider a
> release candidate. This would allow for developers just like me to finally
> use their credit cards, and reduce the amount of pooling required.


This probably won't happen. Some of the official Openmoko people can chime
in here, but I think that their current system/CC provider doesn't allow
them to accept orders on products that aren't shipping.

For the GTA01, they opened the ordering process as soon as they could. I
would guess this will be the same for the GTA02. We're all eager to get our
hands on one of these, but right now we'll have to be patient.

Thanks,
Gerald
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