Re: Shipping to canada...
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No ten packs :/ Although I've heard of Andrew Greig before, the koolu website doesn't inspire confidence in me. I wouldn't trust them with my money. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to Canada...
Steven Kurylo wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No ten packs :/ Although I've heard of Andrew Greig before, the koolu website doesn't inspire confidence in me. I wouldn't trust them with my money. Koolu is a real company with real products of their own (the low-power PC on their web site, which is (perhaps not coincidentally) also mfg'd in a FIC factory). And if you know the Linux world, you'll recognize the name of their CTO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Hall_(programmer). They're probably not the first geek-run company to have web site issues, though (many on this list will remember the problems of OpenMoko's first web store, one year ago). Ian Darwin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
Hello. I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with someone in my group have been doing some research into this. UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and bond fees. Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it. Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs. (These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much appreciated :) ) We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and that includes all of their scam fees. You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than standard delivery + scam fees Did I mention UPS suck? Regards Dave On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote: These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate? Thanks, Matthias Stone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
Did I mention UPS suck? i second that ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:57:24PM -0600, Matthias Stone wrote: These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from [1]openmoko.com webstore) Usually. Sometimes you get lucky and CRA misses a shipment, but don't count on it. I had an early access Freerunner shipped to me, and it came right through, but I got an customs tax invoice from DHL a month later. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
You should know that there is a group buy for Alberta getting organized right, and we could use 1 or 2 more people. Taxes apply, duty might, and the couriers all may charge brokerage fees. UPS really sucks in this regard. One of the members of the group has offered to do the paperwork, so no brokerage fees. I think that the order has already been placed, so let me know if you are interested, and I can put you in touch with the group. Dean Matthias Stone wrote: These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com http://openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate? Thanks, Matthias Stone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
Taxes apply, duty might, and the couriers all may charge brokerage fees. UPS really sucks in this regard. One of the members of the group has offered to do the paperwork, so no brokerage fees. For a single phone the fees are $50. However if you chose the more expense shipping method from openmoko, $50 extra, you don't pay the fees. http://www.ups.com/content/ca/en/shipping/cost/zones/customs_clearance.html So in the end its the same amount of money, but you get your phone much faster. There will be GST, but I don't know what duties their may be. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Shipping to canada...
If you live in Canada buy the phone from Koolu. See our distributor page. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Stone Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:57 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Shipping to canada... These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate? Thanks, Matthias Stone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Shipping to canada...
Check out Koolu. They have just signed up as a distributor for Canada and the US. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:27 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Shipping to canada... Hello. I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with someone in my group have been doing some research into this. UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and bond fees. Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it. Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs. (These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much appreciated :) ) We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and that includes all of their scam fees. You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than standard delivery + scam fees Did I mention UPS suck? Regards Dave On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote: These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate? Thanks, Matthias Stone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Shipping to canada...
On July 05, 2008, steve wrote: If you live in Canada buy the phone from Koolu. See our distributor page. Too bad their webstore is *broken* and I can't get past the select your shipping address page. -- Gabriel A. Devenyi B.Eng. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Shipping to canada...
No ten packs :/ On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 18:09 -0700, steve wrote: Check out Koolu. They have just signed up as a distributor for Canada and the US. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:27 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Shipping to canada... Hello. I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with someone in my group have been doing some research into this. UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and bond fees. Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it. Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs. (These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much appreciated :) ) We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and that includes all of their scam fees. You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than standard delivery + scam fees Did I mention UPS suck? Regards Dave On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote: These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you for your replies) a) In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from openmoko.com webstore) b) How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate? Thanks, Matthias Stone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
