Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,
  Thanks for the suggestion. I've applied. Interestingly, it seems like
profusion/samsung are pushing their port of webkit to efl upstream.
Hopefully, things should get a lot better soon.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST)
c_c  (C) wrote:

>
>Hi,
>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

Hi,

i have been using Ventura daily now, instead of Midori. And SHR is
pushing Ventura as default into it's images! Great!

Still some glitches exist, most of them had been discussed already,
some fixed, some in progress. Now, there is a Cofundos project to
stimulate development of a good browser for openmoko [1]. As you have
been spending time on coding this very functional envelope for
libwebkit, it would make sense to try to submit an offer...

Petr

[1] http://cofundos.org/project.php?id=156


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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Marcin Ćwikła]

2010/2/14 c_c 

>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > - preconfigured to handle https
> >
>  Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for
> now. What do you think?
>
>
And what about entering https:// urls? I think it is imposible now because
http:// is default in URL option.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[omcomali . rhn]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:49:16 +0100
Patryk Benderz  wrote:

> [cut]
> > Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be
> > better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be
> > in TangoGPS).
> Symlink is a good idea - I use it since "ages" but wouldn't ~/Maps
> folder fit better for this?

Sorry, I didn't make it clear: ~/Maps works for TangoGPS, ~/Download would work 
for files downloaded with Ventura.

Cheers,
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Patryk Benderz]

[cut]
> Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be
> better. You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be
> in TangoGPS).
Symlink is a good idea - I use it since "ages" but wouldn't ~/Maps
folder fit better for this?

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Lars Hennig]

Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb omcomali@porcupinefactory.org:
> Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better.
> You can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS).
You are absolutely right: Of course it is much better to do it that way!
And you could still make it configurable...

> Also, wget -c sometimes gives up, I think it was 10 retries.
wget -c -t0 tries the download without limit.


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Re: elm_browser initial release

[omcomali . rhn]

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:39:18 +0100
Lars Hennig  wrote:

> Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek:
> > How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
> > downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to
> > "wget -c"  (continue downloading)
> 
> Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space...
> 
Not everyone uses the card all the time, so ~/Downloads would be better. You 
can symlink that to whatever you wish (like it used to be in TangoGPS).
Also, wget -c sometimes gives up, I think it was 10 retries.

Cheers,
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 11:39:18 schrieb Lars Hennig:
> Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek:
> > How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
> > downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to
> > "wget -c"  (continue downloading)
> 
> Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space...
> 
And what is, if someone has no sd card, or is running from it?
Then that directory is missing.

This should be sth the user can choose. So please include a option to configure 
that directory.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Lars Hennig]

Am Sonntag 14 Februar 2010 schrieb Petr Vanek:
> How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
> downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to
> "wget -c"  (continue downloading)

Even better would be /media/card as there is usually more space...

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 14-02-2010 02:26, c_c escreveu:
>> - preconfigured to handle https
>>
>   Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for
> now. What do you think?

Please don't!

It should be in it's own package, and not provided by each application.
If you want, while it's not in its own package, package your own
(/usr/share/ventura/ca-certificates.crt for instance).

However, thank you very much for that tip, so my elmdentica code works
with SSL but all it lacked was that file... I copied it from my laptop
and now I have SSL working on the Freerunner, so cool!

Anyone knows of a package that has this file and should be installed by
default even though it isn't currently?

Rui

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Petr Vanek  writes:
> How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
> downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to 
> "wget -c"  (continue downloading)

Just make sure people won't accidentally download e.g. ~/.bash_profile
there.


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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
>>   copy of the link into clipboard
>> 
>  An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does
> the /home/root/
>directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory
>(under /home/root) and download the files there?

How about ~ by default but having it as a configurable string? And the
downloader perhaps too? "wget". Some might change it to 
"wget -c"  (continue downloading)

>
>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - preconfigured to handle https
>> 
>  Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk
> for
>now. What do you think?

I hadn't realized until yesterday that the cert was the only thing
missing, all the rest is installed by default already. Yes, either
having it in the ipk or coordinate with the SHR folks who are
apparently planning a solution too.

>
>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)
>> 
>  That would need edje experience way beyond what I have right now.
> Maybe
>someone (Jesus McCloud) could help with this?
>  I'm still struggling with the edje file for launcher.

Have no edje knowledge either...


>Petr Vanek wrote:
>> 
>> - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable
>> (it makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image)
>> 
>  Thats because efl-wbkit doesn't yet allow accessing webkit settings.
> Same
>problem for turning off images. I'll try working around that.


Low priority, as mentioned.


>
>vollkorn" wrote:
>> 
>> - add support for user/pass protected pages. 
>> 
>  Can you send me a link to test with? 


test here:

http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/ventura/

username and password: ventura

cheers

Petr



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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Michael Smith]

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:26:02 -0800 (PST)
c_c  wrote:

>   An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/
> directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root)
> and download the files there?

Sorry for butting in and changing the subject here but I think it is really bad 
for security that the whole openmoko userland, including web browsers, runs as 
root. I think it would be a good idea to consider running web browsers as a 
different user, possibly by launching them with su -c
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,
  Thats Nice :)

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
>   copy of the link into clipboard
> 
  An external wget process makes sense. I'll try that. Does the /home/root/
directory work - or should I create a Downloads directory (under /home/root)
and download the files there?

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> - preconfigured to handle https
> 
  Hmm, I could add the /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to the ipk for
now. What do you think?

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)
> 
  That would need edje experience way beyond what I have right now. Maybe
someone (Jesus McCloud) could help with this?
  I'm still struggling with the edje file for launcher.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> - disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it
>   makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image)
> 
  Thats because efl-wbkit doesn't yet allow accessing webkit settings. Same
problem for turning off images. I'll try working around that.

vollkorn" wrote:
> 
> - add support for user/pass protected pages. 
> 
  Can you send me a link to test with? 
Thanks.
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Ventura ToDos [was: Re: elm_browser initial release]

[Jan Girlich]

Am Samstag, den 13.02.2010, 12:40 +0100 schrieb Petr Vanek:
> - be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
>   copy of the link into clipboard
> - preconfigured to handle https
> - fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)

- add support for user/pass protected pages. Navigating to an Apache
with .htaccess configured for username and password protection yields a
help page telling you your browser does not implement this mechanism. :(

Cheers
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:28:47 -0800 (PST)
c_c  (C) wrote:

>
>Hi,
>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

hi,

shr is considering using Ventura as default browser, which is cool.
carefully considering, here is a list of what imho should be added/fixed
before it can happen:


- be able to handle downloads (start external wget process?) or allow
  copy of the link into clipboard
- preconfigured to handle https
- fix combo selection widget (IIRC edje theming issue)

and low on the list:
- disable content selection or at least ideally make it configurable (it
  makes finger scrolling working real slow if you select an image)

Kind Regards

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Marc Andre Tanner]

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 09:28:47AM -0800, c_c wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

I haven't yet looked at the code but please keep the browser simple
and stupid. Similar to surf[0] or uzbl[1] (in fact I would like to
see a port of one of them to ewebkit and I might do it once I find
the time). Don't implement things like bookmark management inside
the browser let other apps deal with them. Do one thing and do it
well.

Thanks,
Marc

[0] http://surf.suckless.org/ 
[1] http://www.uzbl.org/

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[ykstortnilats]

Hi, great work!

There is one problem in my user's experience: when browsing Chinese
websites, the characters in the page become block characters. But midori can
display the characters correctly. Don't know if it's related to font
settings.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Em 14-01-2010 04:24, c_c escreveu:
> Michael Smith-5 wrote:
>>
>> If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of
>> links.
>>
>I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient.
>I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to
> it to launch from.
>Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page
> will be nice to launch from.

I really can't suggest strongly enough to use sqlite as the place to 
store bookmarks, specially if you add keyword organization instead of 
merely hierarchichal.

Thanks for stepping up with that project, I was thinking of doing it 
myself but I haven't had much time lately.

Best,
Rui

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,
  As does eve - with the error that it couldn't create a webview. Definitely
a problem with webkit. 
  
  Does anyone know where the development is takingplace on webkit-efl? The
gitorious site hardly has any commits after Seop 09.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Al Johnson]

On Monday 18 January 2010, Bernd Prünster wrote:
> With latest updates on shr-u it just segfaults without any error message
> not even on command line.
> any ideas

Midori does it too when trying to load a page. An underlying problem with 
webkit perhaps?

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Bernd Prünster]

With latest updates on shr-u it just segfaults without any error message 
not even on command line.
any ideas

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,

  Flash works fine when I compile browser on my laptop. It automatically
uses ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so.
  I tried using swfdec compiled for arm4t in a similar directory on the FR -
but no joy.
  If we could get a npapi flash plugin for the arm4t, flash should start
working. Any ideas? Does the android browser use a flash plugin that we can
use?
  

Al Johnson wrote:
> 
>  It works well, although dropdown lists seem not to work on any site i've
> tried so far, 
> including the zimbra web interface which seems to work fine in other
> respects.
> 
  Dropdown lists dont work. Maybe someone with edje experience can help by
modifying the default.edj file in /usr/share/browser. Thats the one being
shipped with webkit-efl. Seems like there hasn't been much work on it for
the past four months or so.
 
  I'll post a slightly cleaned up version tomorrow - with a new name and
hopefully a decent icon. :)

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 15 January 2010, Bernd Prünster wrote:
> Jesus H. Christ! did someone get basic flash functionality to work?
> http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d05e30884775f3de217b5b8a359d2228.png

No flash involved. That's just squeezecenter with the nokia770 theme zoomed 
out one step whcih is why the images aren't as crisp as usual. It works well, 
although dropdown lists seem not to work on any site i've tried so far, 
including the zimbra web interface which seems to work fine in other respects.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Bernd Prünster]

Jesus H. Christ! did someone get basic flash functionality to work?
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/d05e30884775f3de217b5b8a359d2228.png

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,

Davide Scaini wrote:
> 
>  Package libewebkit0 wants to install file /usr/share/webkit-1.0/
>  resources/error.html
>  But that file is already provided by package  * libwebkit-1.0-2
> 
>  try with the option -force-overwrite
> 
  Force overwrite helps overcome this. 

  As far as https pages are concerned they work for me. I went through an
old post by trevino about getting https pages working with webkit browsers
[1].
  Here's how :-
1. get the latest version of libcurl4 and curl-certs from angstrom.
2. install them
3. surf https pages.
  
[1]
http://n2.nabble.com/OE-Getting-the-curl-based-apps-Webkit-browsers-working-with-HTTPS-tp337ef1958.html

 Here's the proof :-

   http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4400179/Screenshot-1.png Screenshot-1.png 
  
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Re: elm_browser initial release

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:40 PM, jeremy jozwik wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>
>
> so...   what do i do here?
>
> $ opkg install
> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
> Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
> Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root...
> Installing libewebkit0
> (1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4) to
> root...
> Downloading
> http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libewebkit0_1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4_armv4t.ipk
> Configuring openmoko-icon-theme-standard2
> gtk-update-icon-cache: Failed to open file
> /usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache : File exists
> postinst script returned status 1
> Collected errors:
>  * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file
> /usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html
>But that file is already provided by package  * libwebkit-1.0-2
>  * Cannot find package browser.
>  * ERROR: openmoko-icon-theme-standard2.postinst returned 1
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first i removed /usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache
then if you have still the error * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file
/usr/share/webkit-1.0/
>
> resources/error.html
>But that file is already provided by package  * libwebkit-1.0-2

 try with the option -force-overwrite

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[jeremy jozwik]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:


so...   what do i do here?

$ opkg install http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4397665/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root...
Installing libewebkit0
(1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4) to
root...
Downloading 
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk//armv4t/libewebkit0_1.1.11+gitr38213+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472-r1.4_armv4t.ipk
Configuring openmoko-icon-theme-standard2
gtk-update-icon-cache: Failed to open file
/usr/share/icons/openmoko-standard/.icon-theme.cache : File exists
postinst script returned status 1
Collected errors:
 * Package libewebkit0 wants to install file
/usr/share/webkit-1.0/resources/error.html
But that file is already provided by package  * libwebkit-1.0-2
 * Cannot find package browser.
 * ERROR: openmoko-icon-theme-standard2.postinst returned 1

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Davide Scaini]

Feature suggestion:
As eve it does not handle https pages... it would be great :)

d

(thanks, it's great by now)
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Davide Scaini]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Valery Febvre wrote:

> Davide Scaini wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c  > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Petr Vanek wrote:
> >  >
> >  > working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features
> > to keep
> >  > it fast"
> >  >
> >  I would agree :)
> >
> > Petr Vanek wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Rotation issue has already been reported.
> >  >
> >  It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to
> > another apps
> > window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit
> > - or set
> > it as a post-restart kind of a config.
> >
> > Petr Vanek wrote:
> >  >
> >  > The show images doesn't work seems to me.
> >  >
> >  It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to
> expose
> > the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API.
> >
> > Petr Vanek wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
> >  >
> >  A! I missed that.
> >
> > Petr Vanek wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Commandline url not accepted yet.
> >  >
> >  Haven't added it yet. Soon.
> >
> > Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.
> >
> >  Need a name and icon too!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working
> > r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
> > showing window
> > Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
> > Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
> > Segmentation fault
> >
> > Where can I get it running?
>
> I think you choosed to use Evas Software X11 16 bit engine in SHR
> settings (section Appearence).
> elm-browser only runs with Software X11 engine.
>
> A simple solution is to edit the file
> /usr/share/applications/browser.desktop and to replace line:
>
> Exec=browser
>
> by
>
> Exec=ELM_ENGINE=x11 browser
>
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[Valery Febvre]

Davide Scaini wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>  >
>  > working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features
> to keep
>  > it fast"
>  >
>  I would agree :)
> 
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>  >
>  > Rotation issue has already been reported.
>  >
>  It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to
> another apps
> window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit
> - or set
> it as a post-restart kind of a config.
> 
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>  >
>  > The show images doesn't work seems to me.
>  >
>  It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose
> the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API.
> 
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>  >
>  > Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
>  >
>  A! I missed that.
> 
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>  >
>  > Commandline url not accepted yet.
>  >
>  Haven't added it yet. Soon.
> 
> Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.
> 
>  Need a name and icon too!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
> showing window
> Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
> Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
> Segmentation fault
> 
> Where can I get it running?

I think you choosed to use Evas Software X11 16 bit engine in SHR
settings (section Appearence).
elm-browser only runs with Software X11 engine.

A simple solution is to edit the file
/usr/share/applications/browser.desktop and to replace line:

Exec=browser

by

Exec=ELM_ENGINE=x11 browser

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Davide Scaini]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:53 AM, c_c  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features to keep
> > it fast"
> >
>   I would agree :)
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > Rotation issue has already been reported.
> >
>   It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another
> apps
> window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or
> set
> it as a post-restart kind of a config.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > The show images doesn't work seems to me.
> >
>   It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose
> the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
> >
>   A! I missed that.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> >
> > Commandline url not accepted yet.
> >
>   Haven't added it yet. Soon.
>
> Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.
>
>  Need a name and icon too!
>
> Thanks.
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I'm trying it on shr-u but no way of getting it working
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ browser
showing window
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
Error #0 while loading the group 'scrollbar.vertical'.
Segmentation fault

Where can I get it running?
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[c_c]

Hi,

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features to keep
> it fast"
> 
  I would agree :)

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> Rotation issue has already been reported.
> 
  It takes a little while and refreshing the window by going to another apps
window and bck seems to help. I'll have to experiment with it a bit - or set
it as a post-restart kind of a config.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> The show images doesn't work seems to me. 
> 
  It's a place holder for now. The webkit-efl port doesn't seem to expose
the settings part. I'll try it directly with the webkit API.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
> 
  A! I missed that.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> Commandline url not accepted yet.
> 
  Haven't added it yet. Soon.

Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions.

  Need a name and icon too!

Thanks.
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  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. 
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Petr Vanek]

> * zoom out added to menu
> * stop loading page added to menu
> * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
> * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's
> weird
>though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
> * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)

working very well. i would almost tend to say "no more features to keep
it fast"

A few bugs: 
Rotation issue has already been reported.
The show images doesn't work seems to me. 
Also the Start Page is not taken into account yet.
Commandline url not accepted yet.

thank you
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Al Johnson]

On Thursday 14 January 2010, c_c wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> > About "how do i do that in elementary": elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
> > And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)
> 
>   Well, here's another release. Changes :-
> 
>  * zoom out added to menu
>  * stop loading page added to menu
>  * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
>  * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird
> though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
>  * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)

Very nice :-) Works well with the squeezeserver nokia770 theme when rotated. 
Mythweb is a little odd, but I've not looked into why. Dropdown lists don't 
seem to work so I can't select the mobile zimbra interface, but other than 
that the default interface seems to work!

I see what you mean about the rotation being weird. It seems to need a restart 
after the orientation change before it occupies the correct area too. i could 
see the menu button after changing from portrait to landscape but it wouldn't 
function, and the render width didn't appear to have changed, leaving the old 
image of the buttons from the settings dialog on screen. Conversely when going 
from landscape to portrait the buttons were usable, but further from the 
bottom than expected, and the bottom portion of the screen wasn't being used.

The first time I added a bookmark it segfaulted, but the bookmark was present 
when I restarted the browser. I haven't been able to reproduce this though, 
and the second bookmark added without problems.

> http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
> browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk

I had to remove then reinstall before I got the new version. --force-reinstall 
left me with the old one. 

>   As usual - feedback is welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
> 


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[c_c]

Hi,

Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> 
> About "how do i do that in elementary": elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
> And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)
> 
  Well, here's another release. Changes :-

 * zoom out added to menu
 * stop loading page added to menu
 * bookmarks added - I'm using sqlite as of now
 * rotation added - the changeover takes time to complete and it's weird
though cause the slip shelf and keyboard are still the 'right' way
 * ability to change user agent added (but not tested)
 
http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4394197/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk 
 
  As usual - feedback is welcome.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 09:00, c_c  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>>
>> keep it lite
>>
>  OK.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>>
>> toggle fullscreen
>>
>  Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top
> - and even that shows the page title.
>  If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is
> redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>>
>> rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay
>>
>  :) How do I do that in elementary?
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>>
>> possibility to stop loading
>>
>  Will add that under the menu.
>
> Petr Vanek wrote:
>>
>> toggle loading-displaying images
>>
>  Any ideas how webkit does that?
>
> Thanks.

About "how do i do that in elementary": elm_win_fullscreen_set IIRC.
And for rotating: look at elementary_tests, it's there ;)

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Vadim, Efimov]

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:24:23 +0300, c_c  wrote:

> Michael Smith-5 wrote:
>>
>> If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of
>> links.
>>
>   I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient.

May be Eet enough ? Sqlite — +1 to deps, eet already in EFL.
http://watchwolf.fr/blog/index.php?post/2009/09/27/Sqlite-versus-Eet

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RE: elm_browser initial release

[Niels Heyvaert]

>
> Feedback / feature requests are welcome.

First of all: good stuff! Keep it up.

If it's not already the case, it would be interesting to be able to modify the 
useragent identifying the browser engine and version. Probably from a config 
file. This helps a lot if you want to browse websites which are "optimised" for 
certain browsers on mobile devices.

And as a general suggestion: keep it as simple and lightweight as possible.


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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Am Donnerstag 14 Januar 2010 09:00:27 schrieb c_c:
> Petr Vanek wrote:
> > toggle loading-displaying images
> 
>   Any ideas how webkit does that?

Don't know about ewebkit, but with webkit-gtk it's just setting 

settings = webkit_web_view_get_settings(WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view));
g_object_set (  settings, "auto-load-images", active, NULL);
webkit_web_view_set_settings (WEBKIT_WEB_VIEW(web_view),   
  WEBKIT_WEB_SETTINGS (settings));

> Thanks.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[lars poulsen]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:28 PM, c_c  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.
>
> Features
>
> * finger scrolling
> * double-click to zoom in
> * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed)
> * layout optimised for max viewing space
>
>  The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com
>
>  The ipk for shr-u is available at
> http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
>
>  Feedback / feature requests are welcome.
>  I don't know much about webkit/edje and hence need help with the following
> :-
>
>  * Is there a bookmarking api in webkit ?
>  * How do I make a webview transparent in webkit-efl ?
>  * Evas triple click doesn't work. Any Ideas ?
>  * Can and edje file alse provide signal callbacks if I use it through
> elementary layout ?
>
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This is great.
Please keep it light.
We have been missing a decent browser for so long. Dillo is great but
does not show all pages with success.

Bookmarks would be great.

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[c_c]

Hi,

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> keep it lite
> 
  OK.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> toggle fullscreen
> 
  Is it needed? I'm using the screen except for the illume slipshelf on top
- and even that shows the page title.
  If I did do so (the page title tells you what you're browsing and is
redundant in that sense) - how would I manage to do it in elementary.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay
> 
  :) How do I do that in elementary?

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> possibility to stop loading
> 
  Will add that under the menu.

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> toggle loading-displaying images 
> 
  Any ideas how webkit does that?

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[Petr Vanek]

>> it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and
>> include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time 
>> 
>  Any suggestions? For the name and icon? 
>  There shouldn't be much diff between midori and this browser since
> both
>use webkit. Midori has a lot of functionality that this browser
>doesn't - like bookmarks.
>  OTOH, maybe this seems faster since it's lighter as of now.

it would be wise to keep it this way. midory takes over 20 seconds to
launch on freerunner. as someone pointed - you often need that long to
search for something.

>> command line? If there is no such function, could you add a
>> parameter for that?
>> 
>  There isn't any such function yet. I'll add this today.

:), need it too, to incorporate it into the system.

>  Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on
> the

keep it lite
toggle fullscreen
rotate the screen (not X), hopefully performance will stay
possibility to stop loading
toggle loading-displaying images 

fantastic job! ele-fant :)

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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Michael Smith]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:24:23 -0800 (PST)
c_c  wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> > 
> > If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of
> > links. 
> > 
>   I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient.
>   I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to
> it to launch from.
>   Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page
> will be nice to launch from.
> 
> Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> > 
> > Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me.
> > 
>   Hmm. On this browser, I find the text relatively small. Hence the need to
> zoom the page.
> 
> Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> > 
> > I don't normally need a traditional address field.
> > 
>   I agree. Do you feel comfortable with the current menu->url->url popup
> window?
> 
> Thank you for your comments.
> 
>   I was also experimenting with the option to rotate the screen from the
> browser menu. Seems to work fine most of the time for me.

Sorry I was talking generally about web browsers. I have tried to
install elm_browser but I got these errors:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install 
http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://elm-browser.googlecode.com/files/browser_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk
Installing browser (1.0-r0.4) to root...
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for browser:
 *  libelementary-ver-pre-svn-05-0 (>= 0.0.0+svnr44424) *
   edbus (>= 0.5.0.060+svnr44424) *  libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.3.0) *
   libewebkit0 (>=
   0.1+gitr0+3a5ee77664c898ed51a2b2d5759822f8c0a06472) *
   libgthread-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.1) *  libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.6.20) *
   libxml2 (>= 2.7.3) *  libcurl4 (>= 7.19.7) *  libgnutls26
   (>= 2.4.2) *  libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.1) *  libstdc++6 (>=
   4.4.2) *  libgcc1 (>= 4.4.2) *  libc6 (>= 2.10) *  libcairo2
   (>= 1.8.8) *  libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.17.3) *  libpng12-0 (>=
   1.2.40) *  libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2) *  libeet1 (>=
   1.1.0+svnr44424) *  libglib-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.1) * 

I am running a version from October 10 2009 without subsequent updates. I 
assume that my problem is that I need to upgrade libraries.

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Re: elm_browser initial release

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Hi,

Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> 
> If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server somewhere as a list of
> links. 
> 
  I was thinking of adding those to a sqlite db. Fast, simple, efficient.
  I keep my bookmarks as a html page (firefox bookmarks.html) and browse to
it to launch from.
  Maybe a similar list of html links on a local page as the startup page
will be nice to launch from.

Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> 
> Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me.
> 
  Hmm. On this browser, I find the text relatively small. Hence the need to
zoom the page.

Michael Smith-5 wrote:
> 
> I don't normally need a traditional address field.
> 
  I agree. Do you feel comfortable with the current menu->url->url popup
window?

Thank you for your comments.

  I was also experimenting with the option to rotate the screen from the
browser menu. Seems to work fine most of the time for me.

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[Michael Smith]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:18:17 -0800 (PST)
c_c  wrote:
 
>   Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the
> FR?  I'm looking for suggestions from the community - to see what to add.

Make it as light as possible. If you want bookmarks then keep them on a server 
somewhere as a list of links. Just make it browse pages.

Using Midori yesterday I wished for the ability to specify the size of all text 
on all pages. Most of the text renders much too large to be usable for me.

I don't normally need a traditional address field. URLs are better entered from 
a popup IMHO. Otherwise they are a waste of screen space.
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Hi,

Petr Vanek wrote:
> 
> it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and
> include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time 
> 
  Any suggestions? For the name and icon? 
  There shouldn't be much diff between midori and this browser since both
use webkit. Midori has a lot of functionality that this browser doesn't -
like bookmarks.
  OTOH, maybe this seems faster since it's lighter as of now.

Lars Hennig-2 wrote:
> 
> One question: How can I open a url while launching browser from a script
> or 
> command line? If there is no such function, could you add a parameter for 
> that?
> 
  There isn't any such function yet. I'll add this today.
 
  Also, What are the bare essential features required of a browser on the
FR?  I'm looking for suggestions from the community - to see what to add.
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Re: elm_browser initial release

[Lars Hennig]

Am Mittwoch 13 Januar 2010 schrieb c_c:
> Features
>
> * finger scrolling
> * double-click to zoom in
> * triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed)
> * layout optimised for max viewing space

First impression is great!

One question: How can I open a url while launching browser from a script or 
command line? If there is no such function, could you add a parameter for 
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[Petr Vanek]

>  Here is a webkit-efl / elementary based browser.

thank you, this was really needed. startup is fast, response too.

>Features
>
>* finger scrolling
>* double-click to zoom in
>* triple click to zoom out (not working as of now - help needed)
>* layout optimised for max viewing space

this is great, the transparent widgets help to be able to view a lot

>  The code is available at elm-browser.googlecode.com

it would be great to find a good name for it + icon and
include it in shr, it beats midory in performance big time

>Thanks and enjoy!

thank you!

Petr


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