Re: Wifi problems, WPA/WEP differences (was: Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ; -))

2009-04-05 Thread Dylan Semler
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Johny Tenfinger  wrote:

> My AP worked well with .24 kernel. With .28 and .29 it doesn't (I've
> connected once for about month)
>
>
I'm in this boat as well

Dylan
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Re: Wifi problems, WPA/WEP differences (was: Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ; -))

2009-04-05 Thread Johny Tenfinger
My AP worked well with .24 kernel. With .28 and .29 it doesn't (I've
connected once for about month)

2009/4/5, Paul Fertser :
> Cameron Frazier  writes:
>> On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:25 +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
>>> ...
>>> i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp  wpa one, i have some
>>> interfaces files that i switch between.
>>> ...
>>
>> I can get a DHCP WEP network to connect fine (work), but at home (DHCP
>> WPA) I get nothing.  You mention that you have different interface
>> files, coul dyou describe the differences between them.
>
> I've had successful connections with open, WEP and WPA networks. And i've
> seen an AP i couldn't connect at all too. It looks like FR's wifi is
> incompatible with some APs, no matter if encryption is used or
> not. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1250 for example.
>
> To sum up: FR's wifi has 2 kinds of known problems: incompatibility
> with particular APs and instability of the internal firmware.
>
> Using an old (pre-.28) kernel is not recommended due to stability
> issues. Also i think Werner is still going to finish his daemon to
> promptly power-cycle the wifi module on internal firmware crash; that
> can improve stability somewhat.
>
> I wouldn't hope these compatibility issues will ever be fixed, so my
> advice is: trade your AP for the one FR can work with.
>
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Wifi problems, WPA/WEP differences (was: Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ; -))

2009-04-05 Thread Paul Fertser
Cameron Frazier  writes:
> On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:25 +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
>> ...
>> i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp  wpa one, i have some
>> interfaces files that i switch between. 
>> ...
>
> I can get a DHCP WEP network to connect fine (work), but at home (DHCP
> WPA) I get nothing.  You mention that you have different interface
> files, coul dyou describe the differences between them. 

I've had successful connections with open, WEP and WPA networks. And i've
seen an AP i couldn't connect at all too. It looks like FR's wifi is
incompatible with some APs, no matter if encryption is used or
not. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1250 for example.

To sum up: FR's wifi has 2 kinds of known problems: incompatibility
with particular APs and instability of the internal firmware.

Using an old (pre-.28) kernel is not recommended due to stability
issues. Also i think Werner is still going to finish his daemon to
promptly power-cycle the wifi module on internal firmware crash; that
can improve stability somewhat.

I wouldn't hope these compatibility issues will ever be fixed, so my
advice is: trade your AP for the one FR can work with. 

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-04 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 16:25 +0200, Davide Scaini wrote:
> ...
> i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp  wpa one, i have some
> interfaces files that i switch between. 
> ...

I can get a DHCP WEP network to connect fine (work), but at home (DHCP
WPA) I get nothing.  You mention that you have different interface
files, coul dyou describe the differences between them.  Obviously there
are the proto and private ssid/psk/key differences, but are there
general setup differences?

Kind regards,

Cameron


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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-04 Thread Davide Scaini
i'm using shr testing that's quite stable... [some issues with sound
resume and gsm registering, but i guess it's just a kernel problem]

i use a wep static ip network and a dhcp  wpa one, i have some
interfaces files that i switch between. to check my gmail account i
use minimo that's really fast [and has https support]. some times i
use dillo for specific uses.
if you need more infos just ask, if you have some fixes... tell me!
d


On 4/4/09, Fernando Martins  wrote:
> Davide Scaini wrote:
>> [writing from fr now]
>>
> Could you just summarise which network/email tools/setup you are using
> to achieve this?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Fernando
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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-04 Thread Fernando Martins
Davide Scaini wrote:
> [writing from fr now]
>   
Could you just summarise which network/email tools/setup you are using 
to achieve this?


Thanks,
Fernando

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Davide Scaini
you're right!
[writing from fr now]
it works nicely, thanks!
d
[only some issues with some opkg software, but i'll open a specific thread]

On 4/2/09, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann  wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 15:42:33 schrieb Davide Scaini:
>> I upgraded again today, and i got new kernel, but with no sound and no
>> wifi... is there another way to downgrade or i have to flash the old one?
>> d
> try to open a terminal and execute 'depmod -a'. After that reboot and it
> should all work again.
>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> > Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory.
>> > I tried minimo, it's really fast!
>> > thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr!
>> > d
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** <
>> > montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com> >om>
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
>> >> of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
>> >> desktop file and see if that helps.
>> >>
>> >> -Steven
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but
>> >>
>> >> with
>> >>
>> >> > no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your
>> >> > reply! d
>
>
> Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
>
>

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 15:42:33 schrieb Davide Scaini:
> I upgraded again today, and i got new kernel, but with no sound and no
> wifi... is there another way to downgrade or i have to flash the old one?
> d
try to open a terminal and execute 'depmod -a'. After that reboot and it 
should all work again.

>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> > Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory.
> > I tried minimo, it's really fast!
> > thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr!
> > d
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** <
> > montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com >om>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
> >> of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
> >> desktop file and see if that helps.
> >>
> >> -Steven
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> >> > yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but
> >>
> >> with
> >>
> >> > no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your
> >> > reply! d


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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Davide Scaini
I upgraded again today, and i got new kernel, but with no sound and no
wifi... is there another way to downgrade or i have to flash the old one?
d

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Davide Scaini  wrote:

> Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory.
> I tried minimo, it's really fast!
> thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr!
> d
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** <
> montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
>> of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
>> desktop file and see if that helps.
>>
>> -Steven
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> > yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but
>> with
>> > no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply!
>> > d
>>
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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-01 Thread Davide Scaini
Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory.
I tried minimo, it's really fast!
thank you i'll post my impression on this fabulous shr!
d

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Steven ** <
montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
> of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
> desktop file and see if that helps.
>
> -Steven
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> > yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but
> with
> > no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply!
> > d
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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-03-31 Thread Steven **
This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination
of categories I used.  Copy/paste the categories from a working
desktop file and see if that helps.

-Steven

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but with
> no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply!
> d

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-03-30 Thread Jakob
On 3/30/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> Hi all,
> since yesterday i used debian as my main distro, and flashed the others just
> to give a try. yesterday i flashed the last shr and i found it really...
> working! Nice!
> Today i updated upgraded... and i lost all the icons on the desktop... so
> some questions:
>  - how do i restore the icons?
> - how do i add an icon?
> - is there a better browser than midori? (i used epiphany on debian)
> - is there something like pidgin?
> thanks guys, really great work!
> d

About web-browsers look in here [1]. Dillo is  very fast, but has no
js or anything fancy. Minimo works with gmail for example. ewww seems
great to - i'm about to try it out :)
[1] http://www.opkg.org/category_5.html

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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-03-30 Thread Davide Scaini
yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but with
no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply!
d

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann  wrote:

> Am Montag 30 März 2009 13:44:06 schrieb Davide Scaini:
> > ok I solved the icons problem... upgrading it looses e-wm-menu...
> > but how do i add an icon to the desktop?
> > thanks
> > d
> you have to add desktop files to /usr/share/applications... and illume will
> automatically pick them up. Depending on the menu config (the one you had
> to
> reinstall - e-wm-menu... in /etc/xdg/menus) the desktop file must contain a
> category. Just look at the other desktop files in there and it should be
> clear.
>
> Normally illume reloads the desktop when files in /usr/share/applications
> appear or disappear... but sometimes this does not seem to work. Have to
> reboot (or at least restart x) then.
>
> Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
>
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Davide Scaini 
> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > since yesterday i used debian as my main distro, and flashed the others
> > > just to give a try. yesterday i flashed the last shr and i found it
> > > really... working! Nice!
> > > Today i updated upgraded... and i lost all the icons on the desktop...
> so
> > > some questions:
> > > - how do i restore the icons?
> > > - how do i add an icon?
> > > - is there a better browser than midori? (i used epiphany on debian)
> > > - is there something like pidgin?
> > > thanks guys, really great work!
> > > d
>
>
>
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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-03-30 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Montag 30 März 2009 13:44:06 schrieb Davide Scaini:
> ok I solved the icons problem... upgrading it looses e-wm-menu...
> but how do i add an icon to the desktop?
> thanks
> d
you have to add desktop files to /usr/share/applications... and illume will 
automatically pick them up. Depending on the menu config (the one you had to 
reinstall - e-wm-menu... in /etc/xdg/menus) the desktop file must contain a 
category. Just look at the other desktop files in there and it should be 
clear.

Normally illume reloads the desktop when files in /usr/share/applications 
appear or disappear... but sometimes this does not seem to work. Have to 
reboot (or at least restart x) then.

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann

>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > since yesterday i used debian as my main distro, and flashed the others
> > just to give a try. yesterday i flashed the last shr and i found it
> > really... working! Nice!
> > Today i updated upgraded... and i lost all the icons on the desktop... so
> > some questions:
> > - how do i restore the icons?
> > - how do i add an icon?
> > - is there a better browser than midori? (i used epiphany on debian)
> > - is there something like pidgin?
> > thanks guys, really great work!
> > d



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Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-03-30 Thread Davide Scaini
ok I solved the icons problem... upgrading it looses e-wm-menu...
but how do i add an icon to the desktop?
thanks
d

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Davide Scaini  wrote:

> Hi all,
> since yesterday i used debian as my main distro, and flashed the others
> just to give a try. yesterday i flashed the last shr and i found it
> really... working! Nice!
> Today i updated upgraded... and i lost all the icons on the desktop... so
> some questions:
> - how do i restore the icons?
> - how do i add an icon?
> - is there a better browser than midori? (i used epiphany on debian)
> - is there something like pidgin?
> thanks guys, really great work!
> d
>
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