Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Olivier Berger
Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Rod Whitby schrieb:
 So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
 certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
 definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
 branch.

 -- Rod
   
 we should editing the wiki then.
 because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
 Image.

 Is at this place the Om2008.8 (ASU) tomorrow or not? 
 (OK.. ok, i will wait for the offical announcment)

Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page
guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :(

Anyway, now it should be released right ?

I can see two sets of images in
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ :
 openmoko-devel-image
and
 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is
openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of
unstable/testing/beta things...

Thanks in advance for any hints.

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Olivier Berger schrieb:
 Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page
 guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :(
 
NO! This was standing there since a few days!
This section is a mixed up event and news section.
And someone put it in there as upcomming event!

We should split up news and events in two boxes.
And news should be something like offical announcements.

 Anyway, now it should be released right ?

 
i don't think so !

 I can see two sets of images in
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ :
  openmoko-devel-image
 and
  openmoko-qtopia-x11-image

 Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is
 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of
 unstable/testing/beta things...

 
If i understand all the postings of yesterday right, this is the real 
meaning of the files:

openmoko-devel-image : 

This is the offical Om2007.2 release. 
install the rootfs. Do a opkg update  opkg upgrade.
And you are just where everyone in the list is when he saied he is running a 
OM2007.2



openmoko-qtopia-x11-image :

This is not the ASU or the Om2008.8 !
this is a mixture from Om2007.2 and some ASU applications.
(And the style the ASU would look like.) So used it to 
see what ASU would look like. But it will have many bugs 
the ASU doesn't have or witch are not there anymore.
And now i don't know what someone in the list used if he saied he used ASU.
For me i always thought this is the ASU. So maybe he used this or the real ASU.


How to get the real ASU:

i don't know. we have to wait for the announcement.
If i understand the other people right, there had never been a correct 
installation guide in the wiki, about where to get an up to date ASU image.
It is just an Om2007.2 updated with qtopia apps.


 Thanks in advance for any hints.

 Best regards,
 

@all :

please corret me if i get something wrong.
i am still waiting for my real ASU ;)

Beni


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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Jay Vaughan
 To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder :

 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/

 I guess it was all prep work for the release.



Is this the official release location now or what?

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-08 Thread Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu)
Hi Jay:

 To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder :

 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/

 I guess it was all prep work for the release.

 
 
 Is this the official release location now or what?
 

No, it's not official, I think will be another announcement.

Regards,

Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu)

Openmoko, Inc.
Support.

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Rod Whitby
simarillion wrote:
 I'm a little bit confused.
 
 On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But 
 where can I download it?
 
 I downloaded this one 
 
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080807-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 
 but it has the wallpaper of the FSO image and the nice qwerty button at the 
 top left. Which image is this, SHR ?

FYI, that image is not ASU/2008.08, since buildhost builds from the
org.openmoko.dev branch, not the org.openmoko.asu.* branches.  It's not 
SHR either.  It's a qtopia-x11 image based on the latest builds of the 
branch that brought you the current openmoko release (the one that comes 
on your phone).

In my opinion, it should be removed, since it causes so much confusion. 
  Hopefully, the point will be moot in less than 2 days.

So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
branch.

-- Rod

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Rod Whitby schrieb:
 So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
 certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
 definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
 branch.

 -- Rod
   
we should editing the wiki then.
because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
Image.

Is at this place the Om2008.8 (ASU) tomorrow or not? 
(OK.. ok, i will wait for the offical announcment)
But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki was 
directed to this fake-ASU.
(or was it just me?)

but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or 
write something to the wiki
hear you all tomorrow ;)

Beni


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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri

Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by the
wiki.

After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working right;
it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible.

D


Benedikt Schindler wrote:
 
 Rod Whitby schrieb:
 So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
 certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
 definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
 branch.

 -- Rod
   
 we should editing the wiki then.
 because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
 Image.
 
 ...
 
 But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki was 
 directed to this fake-ASU.
 (or was it just me?)
 
 but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or 
 write something to the wiki
 
 Beni
 

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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread David Samblas
If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you
think fake ASU is a real ASU?
It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the
same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested
before on Qemu.
So You want ASU? then wait until tomorrow anounce, is easy.
El jue, 07-08-2008 a las 08:40 -0700, Dimitri escribió:
 Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by the
 wiki.
 
 After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working right;
 it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible.
 
 D
 
 
 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
  
  Rod Whitby schrieb:
  So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
  certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
  definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct
  branch.
 
  -- Rod

  we should editing the wiki then.
  because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
  Image.
  
  ...
  
  But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki was 
  directed to this fake-ASU.
  (or was it just me?)
  
  but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or 
  write something to the wiki
  
  Beni
  
 


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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Dimitri

You misunderstood me.

NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the
actual ASU. The error was in the WIKI, not with the people who followed the
WIKI's (now false) directions.

D


David Samblas wrote:
 
 If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you
 think fake ASU is a real ASU?
 It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the
 same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested
 before on Qemu.
 So You want ASU? then wait until tomorrow anounce, is easy.
 El jue, 07-08-2008 a las 08:40 -0700, Dimitri escribió:
 Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by
 the
 wiki.
 
 After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working
 right;
 it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible.
 
 D
 
 
 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
  
  Rod Whitby schrieb:
  So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
  certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
  definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the
 correct
  branch.
 
  -- Rod

  we should editing the wiki then.
  because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
  Image.
  
  ...
  
  But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki
 was 
  directed to this fake-ASU.
  (or was it just me?)
  
  but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or 
  write something to the wiki
  
  Beni
  
 
 
 
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Re: ASU 2008.08 image

2008-08-07 Thread Matt
Got me too.

To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder :

http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/

I guess it was all prep work for the release.


Dimitri wrote:
 You misunderstood me.

 NOW we know it was fake ASU. NOW. But 2 days ago, the WIKI said it was the
 actual ASU. The error was in the WIKI, not with the people who followed the
 WIKI's (now false) directions.

 D


 David Samblas wrote:
   
 If those who make ASU are telling to us fake ASU is fake ASU why do you
 think fake ASU is a real ASU?
 It seems a beta version of some kind of FSO more than a ASU. It uses the
 same wallpapers that I have saw in a FSO light image I have tested
 before on Qemu.
 So You want ASU? then wait until tomorrow anounce, is easy.
 El jue, 07-08-2008 a las 08:40 -0700, Dimitri escribió:
 
 Same here. I thought the fake ASU was the real ASU, as clearly stated by
 the
 wiki.

 After installing it, I had all sorts of problems: USB wasn't working
 right;
 it was very sluggish; it would crash within a few minutes... horrible.

 D


 Benedikt Schindler wrote:
   
 Rod Whitby schrieb:
 
 So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will
 certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which
 definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the
   
 correct
   
 branch.

 -- Rod
   
   
 we should editing the wiki then.
 because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) 
 Image.

 ...

 But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki
 
 was 
   
 directed to this fake-ASU.
 (or was it just me?)

 but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or 
 write something to the wiki

 Beni

 
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