Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simarillion wrote: Thank you, it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only the letters? Do I need an additional package? Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle through the layouts (lower case, upper case, symbols, numbers). I just wanted to say that now that the ASU / Qtopia whatever keyboard is working again I find it quite usable. left drag for backspace also works now, I don't know why it didn't before. and right drag is enter. up drag is changing pane (layout / keys) and down drag changes in the other direction. Very nice! I can even use the keyboard with my fingers now! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Tickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? -Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community In short I have come to understand that the decision was made to go with the Qtopia keyboard over the Illume keyboard, but the Qtopia keyboard needs a layer to auto-request it such as matchbox or multitap (which is not installed by default) and with no manual button there is no easy way to access it. That is how I have come to understand it, please correct me if I am wrong here. -Jacob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jacob Peterson wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Tickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org http://downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org http://buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? -Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community In short I have come to understand that the decision was made to go with the Qtopia keyboard over the Illume keyboard, but the Qtopia keyboard needs a layer to auto-request it such as matchbox or multitap (which is not installed by default) and with no manual button there is no easy way to access it. That is how I have come to understand it, please correct me if I am wrong here. Qtopia has a built in keyboard, but because you're using an old version of qpe (see my previous mail on this topic) it's not enabled. If you wished you could install the matchbox-keyboard or multitap instead of using the qpe keyboard and these will pop-up when applications request them. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Thank you, it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only the letters? Do I need an additional package? Greets Michael Am Donnerstag 24 Juli 2008 18:18:52 schrieb Michael Sheldon: Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:52 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). you can also drop it in: ~/.e/e/themes/ and no need to worry about overwrites... BUT theme updates wont happen (eg i add new theme elements illume needs) so.. beware. you are playing with stuff in progress. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
simarillion wrote: Thank you, it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only the letters? Do I need an additional package? Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle through the layouts (lower case, upper case, symbols, numbers). Cheers, Mike. Greets Michael Am Donnerstag 24 Juli 2008 18:18:52 schrieb Michael Sheldon: Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). Cheers, Mike. Very nice, Thank You ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:52 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). ASU is AWESOME once it's working properly. Thanks so much! I'd like to put this on the Wiki. Is it okay if I link directly to those files, or is there some way we can upload such arbitrary files to the current wiki? -Jeff -- Jeff Tickle - 828-262-7123 Operations and Systems Analyst Electronic Student Services Appalachian State University http://ess.appstate.edu http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Keyboard yet again
Jeff Tickle wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:52 +0100 Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Tickle wrote: Hey all, I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul), and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard. I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then removed because the devs want it to automatically appear when there's text to enter and automatically disappear appropriately. I'd personally prefer the manual mode, but I can understand why someone would want this done automatically. Problem for me is that the keyboard never automatically pops up. I know this isn't an isolated incident, as this bug report exists: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1663 Of course there's a mention of using some ASU image from downloads.openmoko.org instead of buildhost.openmoko.org, but I can't find anything ASU-related after sometime in May on the downloads site. I had the same issue, the problem is that buildhost isn't building ASU packages from the ASU dev git tree (I'd guess because it's mostly aimed at people running 2007.02). What you need to do is change your opkg feeds to use http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ which has all the new packages (including an updated version of qpe with keyboard support enabled). You can download the correct config files from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz Just move /etc/opkg to /etc/opkg-backup then unpack that to /etc, then: opkg update opkg upgrade /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart The keyboard should now pop up automatically when text areas request it. I tried editing the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj and setting 'visible: 1' under the 'part { name: kbdtext' section, but that caused the whole UI to be useless (looks like this file is some sort of compiled binary, I couldn't find any information on it.) So, in short: what is up with the keyboard? You can grab an illume theme with the qwerty button restored from: http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/illume.edj Just drop that in to /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ (note that you'll need to overwrite it again each time illume-theme is updated though). ASU is AWESOME once it's working properly. Thanks so much! I'd like to put this on the Wiki. Is it okay if I link directly to those files, or is there some way we can upload such arbitrary files to the current wiki? I'm fine with you linking to them, plenty of spare bandwidth ;) Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community