Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko  
device is
a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any  
reasonable

OS, including OS-X.


Openmoko Flasher includes a precompiled, universal version to make  
life easier (i.e. Mac-like).



In fact, it's already been done:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:SNMoore


Great, I hadn't seen this! Perhaps Michael should add it to his 'Howto
start using the Neo'?


IMHO, he should better add http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device 
 which has a reference to the User:SNMoore page since that is the  
general MacOS X resource page in the WIki



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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-17 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

AFAIK, the Freerunner itself can install software when connected to a
Mac. You'll need to setup networking, but I guess that will be covered
in the FAQ.


Here (Welcome to the OpenMoko page devoted to MacOS X users!):

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X


What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
Mac, that would be nice to know...


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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One point on my list is to ask you, if it is possible, to configure
  (install software) on Freerunner, when you have a Mac?

Dirk,

AFAIK, the Freerunner itself can install software when connected to a
Mac. You'll need to setup networking, but I guess that will be covered
in the FAQ.

What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
Mac, that would be nice to know...

Christ van Willegen
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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:22:12AM +0200, Dirk Deimeke wrote: 

One point on my list is to ask you, if it is possible, to configure
(install software) on Freerunner, when you have a Mac?

And/Or FreeBSD ?

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Dirk Deimeke

Hi,

 AFAIK, the Freerunner itself can install software when connected to a
 Mac. You'll need to setup networking, but I guess that will be covered
 in the FAQ.

ok, great.

 What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
 possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
 Mac, that would be nice to know...

Same for me. My machine is runs with Linux, so no problem on this side. The
machine of my wife works with Tiger.

Since I ordered a phone for her as well, she should be able to do basic
administration with her Mac.

Cheers

Dirk


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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:22:12AM +0200, Dirk Deimeke wrote:

One point on my list is to ask you, if it is possible, to configure
(install software) on Freerunner, when you have a Mac?

 And/Or FreeBSD ?
Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.

Cheers,
Federico

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Rod Whitby

Christ van Willegen wrote:

What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
Mac, that would be nice to know...


I have reflashed GTA01 and GTA02 with a Linksys NSLU2 NAS device, and a 
Freecom FSG-3 wireless router (using dfu-util cross-compiled for armeb 
and ipkg installed on SlugOS).


Really, all you need is some form of Linux and a USB host port.

-- Rid

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote: 

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:22:12AM +0200, Dirk Deimeke wrote:

One point on my list is to ask you, if it is possible, to configure
(install software) on Freerunner, when you have a Mac?

 And/Or FreeBSD ?
Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.

What is cdce ?

 -aW

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christ van Willegen wrote:

  What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
  possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
  Mac, that would be nice to know...
 

  I have reflashed GTA01 and GTA02 with a Linksys NSLU2 NAS device, and a
 Freecom FSG-3 wireless router (using dfu-util cross-compiled for armeb and
 ipkg installed on SlugOS).

Like Dirk, my Mac runs OS-X... and I don't feel comfortable hacking
into my router to do this!

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Rod Whitby

Christ van Willegen wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Christ van Willegen wrote:


What I am wondering about (and maybe you as wel...) is if it will be
possible to re-flash the Freerunner using a Mac. Since I also own a
Mac, that would be nice to know...


 I have reflashed GTA01 and GTA02 with a Linksys NSLU2 NAS device, and a
Freecom FSG-3 wireless router (using dfu-util cross-compiled for armeb and
ipkg installed on SlugOS).


Like Dirk, my Mac runs OS-X... and I don't feel comfortable hacking
into my router to do this!


My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device 
is a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any 
reasonable OS, including OS-X.


In fact, it's already been done:

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:SNMoore

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device is
 a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any reasonable
 OS, including OS-X.

  In fact, it's already been done:

   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:SNMoore

Great, I hadn't seen this! Perhaps Michael should add it to his 'Howto
start using the Neo'?

Christ van Willegen
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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Federico Lorenzi
man cdce on a FreeBSD system...

On 5/16/08, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:

 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:22:12AM +0200, Dirk Deimeke wrote:
 
 One point on my list is to ask you, if it is possible, to
 configure
 (install software) on Freerunner, when you have a Mac?
 
  And/Or FreeBSD ?
 Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.

 What is cdce ?

  -aW

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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:

Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.

 What is cdce ?

cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeBSD. To test it, you
can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page.
Last time I tested it, it worked without problems.

References:
1) 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cdceapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEformat=html
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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Gerald A
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wilkinson, Alex
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:39:48AM +0200, Federico Lorenzi wrote:
 
 Should work, FreeBSD supports cdce, which is a USB ethernet gadget.
 
  What is cdce ?

 cdce[1] is the ethernet -over-usb driver in FreeBSD. To test it, you
 can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page.
 Last time I tested it, it worked without problems.


I've never used it for flashing images, but communications with the neo
works perfectly through cdce on FreeBSD. (It does see the neo advertising a
device at boot time too, I've just never tried it).
,
Gerald.
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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Gerald A
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device
 is
  a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any reasonable
  OS, including OS-X.
 
   In fact, it's already been done:
 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:SNMoore

 Great, I hadn't seen this! Perhaps Michael should add it to his 'Howto
 start using the Neo'?


Wow, you learn something new everyday. :) I'll have to check out doing it
that way.

I've been using the instructions here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device

up until I got a Debian install to work. It's GUI and I believe it's now
Universal (was Intel only for a time).

Thanks,
Gerald
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Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

2008-05-16 Thread Michael Shiloh



Christ van Willegen wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My point was that the dfu-util program used to flash the Openmoko device is
a very portable utility, and can be compiled on just about any reasonable
OS, including OS-X.

 In fact, it's already been done:

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:SNMoore


Great, I hadn't seen this! Perhaps Michael should add it to his 'Howto
start using the Neo'?


I was just thinking that as I read the comment. Yes, absolutely.

Thanks all,
Michael

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