Re: Multiplexing SDIO? Re: How to connect Wifi to Samsung's S3C2410? Re: Congratulations to you and FIC
> First sorry if my thoughts on this list starts confusion > (again I'm not a hardware expert) but I like to encourage > the Neo1973 team to find a desin of the Neo1973 that > - has much memory > - has the potential to upgrade the number of memory > - has the chance for Wifi > - and no bottle neck for Wifi or memory access The way I see it, the memory issue is mitigated somewhat by wifi access -- affordable city-wide wifi (e.g. Toronto) would mean that for most of my usage, I'd be happy to stream media or data as-required, from my home machine. In fact, in many cases, it would be preferable to stream/cache data rather than rely on the download-then-remember-to-delete paradigm. Yup - that would require additional development to deploy for the masses, but it could be simplified - assuming one end has a routable IP and a friendly server to negotiate the initial connection. Cheers, Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiplexing SDIO? Re: How to connect Wifi to Samsung's S3C2410? Re: Congratulations to you and FIC
On Thursday 16 November 2006 02:51, Robert Michel wrote: > BTW is the SD memory limited to 1 GB or could we expect to > use cards with more memory together with the S3C2410? From an earlier mail to the list: " > * micro-sd slot 1GB maximum (due s3c2410) " I didn't verify that however. > 1 GB would be a image of the Wikipedia (one language) > 1 GB Maps > 1 GB Sounds > 1 GB pictures > 1 GB emails /files > 1 GB documentations > ebooks , software ... Yes. More memory would certainly come in handy. In that respect I would prefer minisd or even full blown SD anyhow. > > > If it gets 1GB internal Flash I would most certainly buy one (even for > > 400+$) if I can get SDIO to work. Same goes for the current specs plus > > WiFi. Without WiFi I'm much less sure I'd pay the 350$ as GPRS is > > insanely expensive in Switzerland (something like 3EUR per MB). > > Yes ;) > I didn't wanted to start a discussion which is more important > (I think definitive memory and not Wi-Fi) Personally, I have both on my must have list. I'm not willing to sacrifice either (tho I might go for it if there was some sort of tradein deal). There is one issue with the microsd wifi however: Looking at the specs and comparing them to normal microsd Memory cards, I guess the spectec card is oversized (says it's 23mm whereas normal cards are about 15mm, just why the consider that to be microsd is not really clear to me). If it was at all possible, a minisd slot would thus be vastly preferable. The Spectec minisd WLAN card even lists Linux v2.418 on samsung 2410 / 2440 as being supported! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Multiplexing SDIO? Re: How to connect Wifi to Samsung's S3C2410? Re: Congratulations to you and FIC
Salve Gabriel, *! First sorry if my thoughts on this list starts confusion (again I'm not a hardware expert) but I like to encourage the Neo1973 team to find a desin of the Neo1973 that - has much memory - has the potential to upgrade the number of memory - has the chance for Wifi - and no bottle neck for Wifi or memory access - some additional solder conectors for UART, SIP for hardware hackers and embedded computing / smartphone developers... Ok hope that some hardware skilled person will be motivated to find good ideas and layout for the Neo1973 ;) Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 15. November 2006 um 20:01h: > On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:19, Robert Michel wrote: > > > SDIO = SD Host/MMC (Multi Media Card) Interface? > > > > So upgrade the Flash Memory up to the maximum of 1 GB > > and give up the SD port for the benefit of FAST Wifi? > Sacrificing the microsd slot for WiFi without anymore onboard flash > means the PMP features and GPS maps get lost... BTW is the SD memory limited to 1 GB or could we expect to use cards with mor memory? 1 GB would be a image of the Wikipedia (one language) 1 GB Maps 1 GB Sounds 1 GB pictures 1 GB emails /files 1 GB documentations ebooks , software ... With such a great display more memory = more potential more use. Even when it is an option to buy 8GB one year later ;) Ok OK you are all right - when the Neo1973 has 1GB memory, I could jokey with USB memory But when our free phone offers the chance to have a great collection with us... or just the potential for the future? BTW is the SD memory limited to 1 GB or could we expect to use cards with more memory together with the S3C2410? > If it gets 1GB internal Flash I would most certainly buy one (even for 400+$) > if I can get SDIO to work. Same goes for the current specs plus WiFi. Without > WiFi I'm much less sure I'd pay the 350$ as GPRS is insanely expensive in > Switzerland (something like 3EUR per MB). Yes ;) I didn't wanted to start a discussion which is more important (I think definitive memory and not Wi-Fi) I'm no expert - multiplexing the one SDIO with the help of one UART? SDIO multiplexing: 1. external micro-SD 2. internal Wi-fi 3. internal free SD - e.g. for solder internal another micro-SD. Anybody more skilled (expert) here with some good Ideas how to connect to the S3C2410 in the NEO1973 much memory and Wifi? Or just open the board design for smart (hardware) hacks? Greetings rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to connect Wifi to Samsung's S3C2410? Re: Congratulations to you and FIC
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 18:19, Robert Michel wrote: > SDIO = SD Host/MMC (Multi Media Card) Interface? > > So upgrade the Flash Memory up to the maximum of 1 GB > and give up the SD port for the benefit of FAST Wifi? First of all let me chime into the praise. I was *this* close to ordering a Nokia E series phone because of it having WiFi and not being Winmobile. Add try to add another whatever-sd slot and use Spectecs tiny WiFi module. Or even just two microsd and try to get hands on the microsd one. More SDIO lines could be useful anyhow, as there are even SD Cams these days I believe. (I think someone had a combo SD WIFI and Flash card but that obviously wont fit into microsd). But I believe it's like easier to up the flash onboard: I'd very much support 50$ higher price and get 1 or (much preferred but technically not possible I believe) 2GB Flash on board thus freeing up the microsd slot for microsd WIFI. Sacrificing the microsd slot for WiFi without anymore onboard flash means the PMP features and GPS maps get lost... Be sure to look at http://www.spectec.com.tw/allproducts.asp If it gets 1GB internal Flash I would most certainly buy one (even for 400+$) if I can get SDIO to work. Same goes for the current specs plus WiFi. Without WiFi I'm much less sure I'd pay the 350$ as GPRS is insanely expensive in Switzerland (something like 3EUR per MB). Regards, Gabriel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
