Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
>if you want the :beaten to death" threads - search the archives for anything i >have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others Aha... and I was wondering. Kindly excuse :) >i go into lots of details. Thats what everyone wants. Props! Rahul J On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:38 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:36:10 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't > > been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.) > > The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:- > > 1. Everybody needs a VGA > > 2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU > > 3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since > the > > bus speed is limited) > > > > I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks. > > if you want the :beaten to death" threads - search the archives for > anything i > have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others - i > go > into lots of details. that is what mickey is talking about. not the > immediate > last few mails this week... :) > > > Next. > > > > Rahul J > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > > > > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it > upfront > > > :( > > > > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > > > > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use > the > > > > extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software > > > bottleneck? > > > > > > Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the > last > > > couple of weeks. > > > > > > Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we > win > > > with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith > to > > > the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith > with > > > transferring pixel commands to the GPU. > > > > > > Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02. > > > > > > Can we talk about something else now? > > > > > > :M: > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:36:10 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't > been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.) > The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:- > 1. Everybody needs a VGA > 2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU > 3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since the > bus speed is limited) > > I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks. if you want the :beaten to death" threads - search the archives for anything i have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others - i go into lots of details. that is what mickey is talking about. not the immediate last few mails this week... :) > Next. > > Rahul J > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > > > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront > > :( > > > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > > > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the > > > extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software > > bottleneck? > > > > Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last > > couple of weeks. > > > > Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win > > with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to > > the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with > > transferring pixel commands to the GPU. > > > > Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02. > > > > Can we talk about something else now? > > > > :M: > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
The question may have been beaten to death but the answers surely haven't been satisfactory. (except for this and Rasterman's.) The only conclusion one can derives from all previous posts is:- 1. Everybody needs a VGA 2. VGA wont perform as smooth as it should on this CPU 3. We should have faster CPU (which in turn still would not matter since the bus speed is limited) I have my doubts cleared now. Thanks. Next. Rahul J On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront > :( > > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the > > extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software > bottleneck? > > Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last > couple of weeks. > > Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win > with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to > the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with > transferring pixel commands to the GPU. > > Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02. > > Can we talk about something else now? > > :M: > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :( > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the > extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software bottleneck? Please... this topic has been beaten to death on the lists during the last couple of weeks. Briefly: If it's just about putting pixels on the screen, then what we win with the faster rendering speed is lost due to the smaller bus bandwith to the GPU. Plus, SD transfers go the same path, hence sharing bandwith with transferring pixel commands to the GPU. Number crunching though is almost twice as fast on the 02. Can we talk about something else now? :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So it actually slower? Why can that be? >>i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/ Hmm, so we have product here which limits itself to be run at a speed only at which it would actually be useful/makeSense !? Interesting. Rahul J On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:08:17 +0200 Jens Fursund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > So it actually slower? Why can that be? > > i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/ > > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > babbled: > > > > > > > > >> > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the > ASU, > > >> > > >>> it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized > i > > >>> think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > >>> > > >> don't be so sure about that! :) > > >> > > >> Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance > b/w > > >> 1973 & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) > > >> > > > > > > i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be > faster on > > > a gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > > > > > > > > >> Rahul J > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler< > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>> > > >>> > > thomasg ha scritto: > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many > videos, > > > > > >>> too. > > >>> > > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what > it > > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 > images[1] > > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will > look > > > > > >>> alike. > > >>> > > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv(16 > > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a > 500 > > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the > ASU, > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized > i > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > >>> don't be so sure about that! :) > > >>> > > >>> > > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let > us > > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > > > Cya!! > > > > Pietro > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > >>> -- > > >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> Openmoko community mailing list > > >>> community@lists.openmoko.org > > >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :( It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the extra CPU speed in 02. Is it a bus limitation? Is it a software bottleneck? Rahul J On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:14 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > > Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w > 1973 > > & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) > > i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on > a > gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > > > Rahul J > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > > > thomasg ha scritto: > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > > > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many > videos, > > > too. > > > > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what > it > > > > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > > > > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 > images[1] > > > > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > > > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > > > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > > > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will > look > > > alike. > > > > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv(16 > > > > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > > > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a > 500 > > > > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > > > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > > > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized > i > > > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > > > > > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > > > > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > > > > > > > Cya!! > > > > > > > > Pietro > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:08:17 +0200 Jens Fursund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > So it actually slower? Why can that be? i can go into details... but basically - glamo. the bus bandwidth. :/ > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > >> > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > >> > >>> it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > >>> think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > >>> > >> don't be so sure about that! :) > >> > >> Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w > >> 1973 & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) > >> > > > > i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on > > a gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > > > > > >> Rahul J > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler< > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >>> > >>> > thomasg ha scritto: > > > Hi list, > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, > > > >>> too. > >>> > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look > > > >>> alike. > >>> > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > >>> don't be so sure about that! :) > >>> > >>> > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > Cya!! > > Pietro > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > >>> -- > >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Openmoko community mailing list > >>> community@lists.openmoko.org > >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
So it actually slower? Why can that be? Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >> > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, >> >>> it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i >>> think and the FreeRunner should be faster. >>> >> don't be so sure about that! :) >> >> Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973 >> & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) >> > > i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on a > gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > > >> Rahul J >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler< >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >>> >>> thomasg ha scritto: > Hi list, > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, > >>> too. >>> > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look > >>> alike. >>> > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > MB, ~3.5 min) > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i think and the FreeRunner should be faster. >>> don't be so sure about that! :) >>> >>> I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us keep the freerunner in our hands :D Cya!! Pietro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> -- >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
Well, it isn't that slow (on GTA01). In fact it feels really responsive, just the launcher shows some laggs. I guess it should be able to fix this by more agressive caching, as the problem seems to be, that the neo loads the images/icons pretty slow. The other problem is the starting of other apps - but I hope this also can be improved a bit. At least the new GUI is way more responsive as the old GTK one and more fancy. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:44 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > > Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w > 1973 > > & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) > > i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on > a > gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > > > Rahul J > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > > > thomasg ha scritto: > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > > > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many > videos, > > > too. > > > > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what > it > > > > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > > > > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 > images[1] > > > > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > > > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > > > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > > > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will > look > > > alike. > > > > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv(16 > > > > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > > > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a > 500 > > > > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > > > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > > > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized > i > > > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > > > > > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > > > > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > > > > > > > Cya!! > > > > > > > > Pietro > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:40:01 +0530 "Rahul Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973 > & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) i have both - and have run it on both. :) don't assume it will be faster on a gta02. unfortunate facts :( it isn't. > Rahul J > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > thomasg ha scritto: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, > > too. > > > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > > > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > > > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look > > alike. > > > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > > > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > > > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > > > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > > > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > > > > > Cya!! > > > > > > Pietro > > > > > > ___ > > > Openmoko community mailing list > > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > > > -- > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
> Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. don't be so sure about that! :) Any reason why you have doubts? To a common person, the performance b/w 1973 & FreeRunner should be BIG if not HUGE. (i'm only asking) Rahul J On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > thomasg ha scritto: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, > too. > > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look > alike. > > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. > > don't be so sure about that! :) > > > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > > > Cya!! > > > > Pietro > > > > ___ > > Openmoko community mailing list > > community@lists.openmoko.org > > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > -- > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:35:23 +0200 "Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > thomasg ha scritto: > > Hi list, > > > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. > > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike. > > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > > MB, ~3.5 min) > > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, > it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i > think and the FreeRunner should be faster. don't be so sure about that! :) > I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us > keep the freerunner in our hands :D > > Cya!! > > Pietro > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
Kalle Happonen wrote: > thomasg wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the >> change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. >> So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it >> behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. >> >> I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] >> (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. >> It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely >> doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the >> softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look >> alike. >> Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 >> MB, ~3.5 min) >> I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a >> 500 kbps h264 with vorbis sound. >> Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. >> >> P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( >> > > Thanks for the great vid. It's exciting to see what we'll be able to get > our hands on. And epic music :). And my 2 cents (eurocents), > downloadable real video >> flash in most cases. > > Kalle > > 2 eurocents is about... 10 yankee dinar? :-) However, good work folks. It's great to see it all coming together so nicely :-D Kyle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
thomasg wrote: > Hi list, > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look > alike. > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > MB, ~3.5 min) > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a > 500 kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( Thanks for the great vid. It's exciting to see what we'll be able to get our hands on. And epic music :). And my 2 cents (eurocents), downloadable real video >> flash in most cases. Kalle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
thomasg ha scritto: > Hi list, > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the > change in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely > doesn't show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the > softwareguys at openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike. > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 > MB, ~3.5 min) > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( > > Good job for the video and hey openmoko people, GOOD JOB for the ASU, it's really nice, quite slow on the neo 1973 but it can be optimized i think and the FreeRunner should be faster. I'm s happy, please turn the mass production switch on and let us keep the freerunner in our hands :D Cya!! Pietro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video
On Thursday 05 June 2008 01:38:03 thomasg wrote: > Hi list, > > there are still many people who don't know about ASU, and about the change > in the Openmoko distribution - and there are not many videos, too. > So I decided to do a small video to show what it looks like, what it > behaves like and some of the next-generation apps. > > I took my Neo (still gta01), flashed one of the qtopia-x11 images[1] > (that's what ASU is at moment!) and played around. > It's far away from being complete, it's not perfect and it surely doesn't > show what will come, but I hope it will show you what the softwareguys at > openmoko are working on and what the future will look alike. > Here it is: http://videos.gstaedtner.net/openmoko/illume_intro.mkv (16 MB, > ~3.5 min) > I hope you don't mind getting no crappy flashvideo this time, but a 500 > kbps h264 with vorbis sound. > Feel free to download, share, and whatever you want. > > P.S. Excuse my bad english, I'm not a native speaker :( That's more like it ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
