Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
I have an update. I picked up yesterday a pre-paid FIDO SIM Card (Microcell/FIDO was the first GSM provider in Canada and was subsequently acquired by Rogers Wireless). The FIDO SIM card was able to see FIDO was a carrier under Android 2.2 and do Voice + SMS, but getting GPRS working turned out to be elusive (i.e. many wasted hours). We installed SHR instead and... presto the GPRS worked effortlessly with GPRS settings: server: internet.fido.ca username: fido password: fido . Android was apparently too dumb to deal with this this simple setting. It remains quite a mystery as to why Roger's current "3G" SIM isn't working in the GTA02. We're going to stockpile some current FIDO 3G/4G SIMs at $10 each, cheap insurance versus being stuck in the future with devices that can't do GPRS. We have *not* tested any FIDO LTE SIMs yet for compatibility. -Pascal www.wi-flight.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:48:12 +0100 Al Johnson wrote: > Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK > network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into > how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs > either by accident or design. > > On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote: > > In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs > > (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android > > Froyo on the GTA02 850Mhz. > > > > Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability > > to our Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we > > are unable to get a carrier registration at the AT command level > > using two Rogers SIMs (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and > > the other in a Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)). The GSM > > baseband code was at Moko8 so we had the fix for bug 666. We > > tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference. > > > > We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work > > when we try the circa 2012 SIMs. What's your setup exactly? > > > > Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried > > to attempt to replicate something that worked before. > > > > I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled > > alarm system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old. It worked > > just fine in a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data > > from the phone (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers). > > > > The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers > > SIMs that makes it incompatible with the GTA02. I am wondering if > > anyone else has encountered this problem. I'd be happy to be able > > to get a Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet). > > > > We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're > > pretty sure it's not a one-off phone problem. Maybe you could try to debug it with simtrace(the hardware for tracing SIM communications, that is compatible with wireshark 1.8)? However if it's a problem with the modem firmware it would be hard to fix, one may think that there is osmocombb, but *selling* phones with osmocombb preinstalled may not be legal in your jurisdiction(I'm not a lawyer tough...). In that case I guess you would need to switch to another GNU/Linux phone(such as a GTA04, or another phone supported by SHR for instance,but that means that you'll probably have some availability issues(you'll need to find a reliable way to get such phone in the long run...)). Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems using recent Rogers Wireless (Canada) SIMs in GTA02
Have you tried the new SIM in any other 2G-only phone? SIMs from 3(UK network) seem to work only in 3G-capable devices. I never looked into how or why, but it's possible Rogers are doing this with new SIMs either by accident or design. On Wednesday 26 September 2012 21:53:14 Pascal Gosselin wrote: > In 2010, we were able to take circa mid-2008 Roger Wireless SIMs > (Canada) borrowed from an iPhone 3G and get it to work in Android Froyo > on the GTA02 850Mhz. > > Two years later, we decided to add some GPRS reporting capability to our > Wi-Flight product which is currently using Wi-Fi only, we are unable to > get a carrier registration at the AT command level using two Rogers SIMs > (both from 2012, one used in an iPhone 4 and the other in a Samsung > Galaxy S II Skyrocket (LTE)). The GSM baseband code was at Moko8 so we > had the fix for bug 666. We tried Moko11 but it didn't make a difference. > > We repeated the same Android Froyo setup and indeed it doesn't work when > we try the circa 2012 SIMs. > > Our product doesn't run on Android, the Froyo stuff was just tried to > attempt to replicate something that worked before. > > I found a working older Rogers full-sized SIM from my GSM-enabled alarm > system, which I think it at least 3-4 years old. It worked just fine in > a Nexus S and I was able to send an SMS and Edge data from the phone > (it's a T-mobile AWS phone so no 3G on Rogers). > > The conclusion so far is that something has changed in the Rogers SIMs > that makes it incompatible with the GTA02. I am wondering if anyone > else has encountered this problem. I'd be happy to be able to get a > Fido-branded card to work (haven't tried that yet). > > We've repeated the same issue with a half-dozen GTA02s so we're pretty > sure it's not a one-off phone problem. > > -Pascal > +---+ > Pascal Gosselin > President > Wi-Flight > pas...@wi-flight.net > cell (514) 298-3343 > office (450) 676-6299 > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
